Continued: (Ed) Atheism Plus/Free Thought Blogs (FTB)

Stout said:
The funny thing is it wasn't just one black person, it was a whole bunch of them. I was in down in the Caribbean when I read that thread and has easy access to lots of black people so I asked this question frequently. Once they stopped laughing and stopped looking at me like I was some sort of space alien nobody claimed that dreads were a black thing at all. A Rasta thing sure but Rastas are a very small percentage of Jamaicans so equating dreads as a black thing is the same as considering lederhosen a white thing.

I do find myself faced with a conundrum though. Should I take down that dreamcatcher that's made of purple plastic, fishing line and dyed feathers ( read: bastardized ) that I have hanging from my rearview mirror and, if I do, what should I tell the native woman who gave it to me if she asks me where it went?
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Give her a basket o'links to read. If she reads them she will hate you for your oppression. And if she doesn't she'll... well, she'll hate you for the basket.
 
squealpiggy said:
Interestingly enough that stalwart of Chinese restaurants, the fortune cookie, is actually an introduction by Japanese immigrants living in the Western United States. They ran the Chinese restaurant industry despite not being Chinese and introduced a traditional Japanese dish which is now so ingrained in the imagination of Westerners as being Chinese that a Chinese meal is remiss without the presence of an item that, in China, does not even exist!
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Chicken Tikka Massala is a very popular dish here in the UK1. There are various origin stories for it, but few of them has it originating in India. The most commonly-accepted story has it created in Glasgow, although this isn't a claim without controversy.

So, am I wrong to eat one2? What culture do I have to learn about before I can eat one? And is it even possible to learn the correct culture when nobody knows the origin of the dish for sure.

See also Balti (AKA one of the most delicious dishes known to man), which was created in Birmingham3.

1Abba even wrote a song about it - "try once more, like you did before, sing a new song, chicken tikka"

2Well, by my own standards yes, as I'm vegetarian, but that's besides the point.

3Or not, depending on who you talk to.
 
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qwints said:
it's about compassion and solidarity not compulsion and silencing.
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Then, it's really about feelings. Compassion for the feelings of the underprivileged.

For example, rap artists and fans who are hurt and annoyed by the success of Eminem.

For me, it's people noticing another culture's art and saying, "wow, that's really nice. I want to do that, too." My brother recorded a whole album of Reggae, because, dammit, he really liked Reggae! Or, Luis Armstrong took up playing the European trumpet, because, uh, he really liked the sound!

If I begin to make Navajo blankets, will I be shamed if I don't delve into its culture in a true academic endeavor and add a twist to it that makes it my own? If it annoys some Navajos, is that really my problem that some of their feelings may be bruised? Is this really a good reason for SJW panties to bunch up when there are bigger problems to solve? Don't make me bring up Dear Muslima!
 
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Squeegee Beckenheim said:
Chicken Tikka Massala is a very popular dish here in the UK1. There are various origin stories for it, but few of them has it originating in India. The most commonly-accepted story has it created in Glasgow, although this isn't a claim without controversy.

So, am I wrong to eat one2?
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Yes. Never waste a curry night on a crappy chicken tikka! Have a karahi or a vindaloo, or if you must have masala sauce go for a paneer chili masala!

Stout said:
A basket of links ?

Can do

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:D

Awwwwww....
 
squealpiggy said:
Yes. Never waste a curry night on a crappy chicken tikka! Have a karahi or a vindaloo, or if you must have masala sauce go for a paneer chili masala!
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Vindaloo? I've tried it once. It was almost flavourless. It's like the temperature of the dish was considered to be the only important thing and nothing else mattered.
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
Vindaloo? I've tried it once. It was almost flavourless. It's like the temperature of the dish was considered to be the only important thing and nothing else mattered.
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Interestingly, vindaloo is a variation on a Portuguese dish. So the appropriation is Portugal -> India -> UK.
 
I've had a few vindaloos in my time. I had one at Uni that was delicious, sharp, lemony and peppery as well as sweet and hot.

I also had one that tasted like someone mashed hot chillis into water. Horrible and not something I ever want to eat again.
 
WillyWonka said:
Interestingly, vindaloo is a variation on a Portuguese dish. So the appropriation is Portugal -> India -> UK.
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Lots of things come full circle like this. My wife is Caribbean and the expats here in Canada are modifying Caribbean jerk recipes with Indian spices, which probably brings them back to their original recipes that the Indian slaves brought to the Caribbean in the first place.



And you can get weird crossovers... Vaccination with cowpox is a variation of inoculation, which was developed in China. Meanwhile, homeopathy is a relatively recent German invention. I have heard people accuse my criticism of homeopathic 'vaccination' as 'western bias' - If anything, it's the opposite. Science is very predatory and generally source agnostic.
 
Stout said:
Uh Oh

Grimalkin has been kicked off Teen Skepchick for leading that raid over the use of the word stupid and the phrase "remember to breathe"

See the butthurt here
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I don't see how your first link is related to your second.

Not that that should matter, as any halfway decent blogger, when commenting on something on any given website, will link to the relevant part(s) of that website so their readers can catch up. That this hasn't happened is, presumably, an artefact of the way that a small, known audience is presumed. I'd also say that a decent blogger would address a general audience, rather than someone they're having a bitch-fight with.

What I have gleaned is that Skepchick have a site dedicated to teenagers? And they're starting one dedicated to disabled people? What have teenagers and disabled people done to deserve that?
 
Well, I had a quick look at Teen Skepchick. First article I click on: http://teenskepchick.org/2014/03/21/calorie-counting-yay-or-nay/

The actual process of how difficult it is to chew and swallow a food can make a difference in the end calorie value of a food. As an example, celery is a negative calorie food because it takes more calories to chew it than it provides you in the end.
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That's a myth. It actually takes 1/12th of the calories you ingest from eating celery to digest it. The rest is processed. It's a low calorie food, but the only negative calorie food is cold water because water contains no calories and it takes energy to warm it up inside your body. To burn off 100 calories by drinking water, ensure the water is ice cold and ingest a quart of it.

In other words - don't do that.

So, yeah, the very first article I look at has a myth masquerading as science. Good to see the journalistic standards of Skepchick being maintained. Chip off the old block. They must be proud.
 
A website that prides itself on being a safe zone promoting trolling and spamming?
One day they'll post something that isn't utterly hypocritical.
 
Grimalkin said:
You told me it was because I was... exposing private conversation. That last one has merit until you realize, and I’m sure you do, that my hand was forced due to the fact that it was either expose a “private” conversation, or let complete lies about what has transpired be taken as truth.
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(from http://atheismplus.com/blogs/?p=153#more-153)


That sounds awfully familiar. Didn't someone do the same thing for the same reason to the Atheism Plus forum, and that made them a horrible evil traitor?
 
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