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The prophecies of Ama

PeaceCrusader said:
I can translate Tagalog to English but the translator makes it easier for me than without. There are some words in Tagalog that are not usually used regularly (deep Tagalog) and I have to evaluate how to translate it properly, example is “Mag-uulol sa daigdaig ang karumhan”.
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Translator or not, your biggest problem is always going to be the Law of GIGO.
 
A con artist telling somebody that they may become stingy? Now why would that be?
There are two possible reactions to this: either that person gives the supposed prophet money, to show that they're not stingy or they don't, in which case they feel guilty, as the mystic has seen the future, increasing the chances that they'll donate later on.

So obvious that it's a scam.
 
Astreja said:
I would like to know exactly what lung illness Aguila was diagnosed with, as I strongly suspect that the diagnosis of a "six-months-to-live" illness was in error. I say this because if "Ama" can't even get a prophesy to come true, I also doubt its ability to heal.
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Yes, "lung illness" is extremely vague. A relative of mine died of metastatic lung cancer about fourteen years ago. Another relative has asthma, but she's fit and energetic and rarely needs to use her inhaler.

What lung illness was Aguila diagnosed with, PC?
 
PeaceCrusader said:
We have conversed for a long now and still, you do not understand that these prophecies were revealed by the spirit of Ama and not by Ka Apaz.
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I fear, PC, that it is you who does not understand.

This is a forum of skeptics, not a group of people who will swoon into the arms of Maria Alvaran's delusion. Every post you make on this forum further degrades Alvaran's already shaky reputation, and now if anyone on the Internet Googles "Ka Apaz," it leads to the JREF forum and our critical analyses of Alvaran's hateful, vicious-minded, pessimistic and thoroughly wrong nonsense.

You've almost certainly damaged the Ama legend beyond all hope of repair, and thanks to the power of the Internet you cannot undo what you have wrought.

Good work. :D
 
pirit of Ama

PeaceCrusader said:
The spirit of Ama knows that I am a cheapskate, stingy (“kuripot”). Ama said one Holy Week that I was coming to the Philippines (no one knew). He said that I might become stingy (“magkukuripot”). And that is true. When I arrived in the Philippines, I did not come to Baliwag during the “Pabasa” (singing of Pasiong Mahal) of Ka Apaz because I knew that the host of the “Pabasa” will take care of the food for the singers. I made an alibi that I had a stomach ache which is also true. But my being stingy prevailed.

I know and have seen that these children of Ka Apaz are getting donations for her. That is why I do not give any money monthly when I was working overseas or am here in Australia.
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PC, I don't reckon it's stingy not to allow Maria Liwayway Alvaran's brood of children to dig into your wallet. The money's much better spent showing your missus a good time.



PeaceCrusader said:
We have conversed for a long now and still, you do not understand that these prophecies were revealed by the spirit of Ama and not by Ka Apaz. Please read http://aristean.org/wp086.htm titled “How the Holy Spirit talks to people”.
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Yes, I recall that article.
We know that Ka Apaz is a character invented by Maria Liwayway Alvaran and has a backstory full of historical flaws.
So full of flaws it's hard to belief anyone'd be taken in by it.

PeaceCrusader said:
The prophecies have been scheduled when they will be posted. Even if we have not finished our conversation yet and new prophecies have been posted, the conversation may continue.
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Scheduled?
By whom?



PeaceCrusader said:
I can translate Tagalog to English but the translator makes it easier for me than without. There are some words in Tagalog that are not usually used regularly (deep Tagalog) and I have to evaluate how to translate it properly, example is “Mag-uulol sa daigdaig ang karumhan”.
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I can see your point, though the results are vague, poorly worded pronouncements.
 
PeaceCrusader said:
It will also appear this year [1979] different kinds of animals which are unfamiliar and which will destroy the thing that is very beneficial to mankind that will cause widespread hunger.
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Dunno why I bother, but . . . .

This one seems kinda sorta specific. So, PC, what unfamiliar animals appeared in 1979, destroyed "the thing that is very benificial to mankind", and caused widespread hunger?
 
Astreja said:
I fear, PC, that it is you who does not understand.

This is a forum of skeptics, not a group of people who will swoon into the arms of Maria Alvaran's delusion. Every post you make on this forum further degrades Alvaran's already shaky reputation, and now if anyone on the Internet Googles "Ka Apaz," it leads to the JREF forum and our critical analyses of Alvaran's hateful, vicious-minded, pessimistic and thoroughly wrong nonsense.

You've almost certainly damaged the Ama legend beyond all hope of repair, and thanks to the power of the Internet you cannot undo what you have wrought.

Good work. :D
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Indeed, it would be nigh upon impossible for anyone reading these threads to not reach the conclusion that PC is doing far more harm to the reputation his fraudulent Ka Apaz/Ama then any of us could ever do. Keep it up, PC, you're doing a fine job.
 
poblob14 said:
Dunno why I bother, but . . . .

This one seems kinda sorta specific. So, PC, what unfamiliar animals appeared in 1979, destroyed "the thing that is very benificial to mankind", and caused widespread hunger?
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SPACE TOADS on reconnaissance for the invasion force?
 
9/10 – Many will appear smooth-faced and pretend that they are Jesus Christ. This is a warning of the coming of the Last Day. (Lilitaw ang maraming mapagbalatkayo at magpapanggap na Kristo bagay na isa ring babala sa paglapit ng Huling Araw.)
 
fromdownunder said:
One of these is of course Ka Apaz/Ama. Unless she grew a beard.

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She could always buy a beard from Harry the Haggler. Or some stones, and a packet of gravel.

MANDY: Ohh, I hate wearing these beards.

BRIAN: Why aren't women allowed go to stonings, Mum?

MANDY: It's written. That's why.

HARRY THE HAGGLER: Pssst! Beard, madam?

DONKEY OWNER: Oh, look. I haven't got time to go to no stonings. He's not well again.
[hee-haw hee-haw]

HARRY THE HAGGLER: Stones, sir?

MANDY: Naah. They've got a lot there, lying around on the ground.

HARRY THE HAGGLER: Oh, not like these, sir. Look at this. Feel the quality of that. That's craftsmanship, sir.

MANDY: Hmmm. Aah, all right. We'll have, uh, two with points and... a big flat one.

BRIAN: Could I have a flat one, Mum?

MANDY: Shh!

BRIAN: Sorry. Dad.

MANDY: Ehh, all right. Two points, ah, two flats, and a packet of gravel.

HARRY THE HAGGLER: Packet of gravel. Should be a good one this afternoon.

MANDY: Hehh?

HARRY THE HAGGLER: Local boy.

MANDY: Oh, good.

HARRY THE HAGGLER: Enjoy yourselves.
 
PeaceCrusader said:
9/10 – Many will appear smooth-faced and pretend that they are Jesus Christ. This is a warning of the coming of the Last Day. (Lilitaw ang maraming mapagbalatkayo at magpapanggap na Kristo bagay na isa ring babala sa paglapit ng Huling Araw.)
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I have a beard, so I guess I can claim to be jebus right?
 
At least there is just the one more 'prophecy' to suffer through.

Why are all these fake Jesus wannabes smooth faced, anyway? Most Jesus impersonators are razor-dodgers, given the general Western idea of the man.
 
PeaceCrusader said:
9/10 – Many will appear smooth-faced and pretend that they are Jesus Christ. This is a warning of the coming of the Last Day. (Lilitaw ang maraming mapagbalatkayo at magpapanggap na Kristo bagay na isa ring babala sa paglapit ng Huling Araw.)
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:jaw-dropp
 
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