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The prophecies of Ama

PeaceCrusader said:
AIDS, cured? After almost 35 years, no cure. Yet?
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Did you not read what I wrote? Did you not read what others wrote? Should I take your misrepresentation as yet another lie?

The spirit of Ama said in 1979, prophecy 14, “A disease known as GOTACURAL
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No disease is known by that name; AIDS is not known by that name -- prophecy failed.
...will occur
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AIDS had already occurred -- prophecy failed.
...in epidemic proportions all over the land, and such disease will be incurable even by the known specialists of the medical profession.”
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And yet, there have been instances of cure -- prophecy failed.

Please stop lying.
 
Then why didn't the all-knowing "Ama" just say that the disease would be called AIDS? All this confusion could have been avoided.

Again, why doesn't Ama make specific predictions about things that then actually happen? Why no warning about the Crimea conflict or the disappearance of the Malaysian Airlines plane before these things happened?
 
PeaceCrusader said:
When we go to Ka Apaz’ place in Baliwag, Bulacan, we passed by that chapel or church at the corner of De Guzman Street and F. Vergel de Dios Street. The town center is about one km away.

I have been truthful to you. I even put the original Filipino transcription of how Ama said it and its translation to English. Now, you are accusing me of fabricating the stories I share with you. FYI, I am not gifted to be a storyteller. What I can do is share what I heard and learned from the spirit of Ama and it is up to people like you to analyze what He said, whether it is true or not. It is up to us to analyze the pros and cons of various readers to make our own conclusion.
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Not that it matters at all, It's a resounding nobody is buying any of it.
 
PeaceCrusader said:
I have mentioned in #1745 “that back in the late 1970s, the medical profession was joyous that they have conquered the diseases of man? Then AIDS came and they found themselves helpless to see young people dying.” I have read this in one of the magazines, either Time or Newsweek, and I am looking for it. It was also its cover story.

Other diseases that have puzzled the medical profession are Mad Cow Disease, Sudden Infant Death Syndrome, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome or Yuppie flu, Gulf War Syndrome, Toxic Shock Syndrome, Ebola virus, Nipah virus, SARS, Bird Flu, etc. But it is AIDS that have lingered and still no cure. Still incurable after more than 30 years of the best minds of the medical community.
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And, again, at least three instances of AIDS cures have been provided to you.
 
PeaceCrusader said:
3/10 – There will be an increase in the deceitful desires and scramble of people for [public] offices. (Mag-uulol pa ang paghahangad at pag-aagawan ng mga tao sa tungkulin.)
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PC, I think this is a repeated pronouncement from Maria Liawayway Alvaran. In any case, you have to admit it's a silly thing to prophecy. how could you ever prove it?



PeaceCrusader said:
I have mentioned in #1745 “that back in the late 1970s, the medical profession was joyous that they have conquered the diseases of man? Then AIDS came and they found themselves helpless to see young people dying.” I have read this in one of the magazines, either Time or Newsweek, and I am looking for it. It was also its cover story.

Other diseases that have puzzled the medical profession are Mad Cow Disease, Sudden Infant Death Syndrome, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome or Yuppie flu, Gulf War Syndrome, Toxic Shock Syndrome, Ebola virus, Nipah virus, SARS, Bird Flu, etc. But it is AIDS that have lingered and still no cure. Still incurable after more than 30 years of the best minds of the medical community.
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You realise how foolish this sounds, PC?
On the one hand claiming AIDS wasn't known before Maria Liwayway made that stupid pronouncement (GOTACURAL, really!) on the other, reeling of a list of diseases unrelated to the subject, which is, after all, this woman's long-lived huckstering.



PeaceCrusader said:
AIDS, cured? After almost 35 years, no cure. Yet? The spirit of Ama said in 1979, prophecy 14, “A disease known as GOTACURAL will occur in epidemic proportions all over the land, and such disease will be incurable even by the known specialists of the medical profession.”

Ama said that it is “incurable”. I believe Him. GOTACURAL is acquired that is why there is “GOT” in its name. And that is AIDS – Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome.
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Come, PC.
You've been given evidence AIDS can be cured.
Why do you continue to belief this woman's nonsense?
 
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pakeha said:
Come, PC.
You've been given evidence AIDS can be cured.
Why do you continue to believe this woman's nonsense?
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*shrug* Perhaps he fears that he won't get the "good" version of eternal life unless he believes literally everything that "Ama" has ever said -- Never mind that there's no credible evidence for his god, for eternal life, for heaven or hell, or for souls.

And before PC repeats his usual nonsense about souls and "What's the difference between a living thing and a dead thing?" I'm going to head 'im off at the pass:

Try this experiment, PC. Try to use your "soul" tonight as you sleep, not only as you dream but also in the dreamless phases of sleep. If a soul can exist after death, when the brain is dead and the body rotted away, it should be easy to use it while your body's alive and merely asleep.

Right? :eusa_think:​
 
PeaceCrusader said:
3/10 – There will be an increase in the deceitful desires and scramble of people for [public] offices. (Mag-uulol pa ang paghahangad at pag-aagawan ng mga tao sa tungkulin.)
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Why is the word "public" in square brackets? Does it actually appear in the "prophecy"?
 
PeaceCrusader said:
#1745 “that back in the late 1970s, the medical profession was joyous that they have conquered the diseases of man?
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Repeating a lie does not make it any less of a lie.

You have to lie about the fundamental nature of medicine to support Ka Krackhead's lies. What does that tell you about the lying crone you worship as if she were God?

What evidence would convince you that your "prophet" is a con artist and a liar?
 
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LaurelHS said:
What's your source for the claim that the "medical profession" believed they had "conquered all diseases" in the 1970s?
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He claims he got it from Time or Newsweek. I wouldn't be surprised if a Time/Newsweek story from the eighties led with an exaggerated statement like that. But unless there's a credible source (say, the AMA), it's worthless as evidence.
 
halleyscomet said:
Repeating a lie does not make it any less of a lie.

You have to lie about the fundamental nature of medicine to support Ka Krackhead's lies. What does that tell you about the lying crone you worship as if she were God?

What evidence would convince you that your "prophet" is a con artist and a liar?
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SezMe said:
PC, answer this question. #1812 and #1815
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You believe that Ka Apaz is “a con artist and a liar”. I told you that the spirit of Ama and Ka Apaz are two distinct beings. Ama uses the physical body of Ka Apaz to speak to people. You have to see her if you want to be cleared. It is not my problem if you don’t want to believe what I share.

It was back in 1982 when I was on home leave that I first read about Ka Apaz and the Voice (Ama) in the Philippine Panorama magazine issued on 1980-03-30. What attracted me to this Lent Issue of the magazine are the 19 prophecies that the Voice revealed on 1979-10-19. I checked if what a clairvoyant predicted will come true or not.

I did not have time to visit the place stated in the article as I was going back to my work overseas but I brought the magazine with me. It was the following year, 1983, during my home leave that I went to the place. So my association with Ka Apaz and Ama spans from 1983 to present. I told you that it took me eleven years (1983-1994) before I accepted that the spirit who we talk to is the spirit of Jesus Christ (http://aristean.org/wp113.htm titled “From doubt to belief”) because what was at stake was my very own soul which I believe will live forever either in Heaven or in Hell.

Ama said in 1986-06-13 in http://aristean.org/d13a-pah2.mp3 (in Filipino) that the wick of the lamp is the Philippines. Watch out when this will be lighted. World War III will happen in the middle of the year on a Wednesday.
 
4/10 – It will happen that excessive destruction of things and properties that are beneficial to the lives of man by powerful storms or what we call as typhoons, hurricanes, or cyclones. (Magaganap ang labis na pagkapuksa ng mga bagay at ari-arian na lubhang kapaki-pakinabang sa buhay ng tao sa pamamagitan ng sanggaanong lakas na unos ng panahon o tinatawag nating bagyo.)
 
PeaceCrusader said:
4/10 – It will happen that excessive destruction of things and properties that are beneficial to the lives of man by powerful storms or what we call as typhoons, hurricanes, or cyclones. (Magaganap ang labis na pagkapuksa ng mga bagay at ari-arian na lubhang kapaki-pakinabang sa buhay ng tao sa pamamagitan ng sanggaanong lakas na unos ng panahon o tinatawag nating bagyo.)
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This "prediction" would have been more impressive if she'd forecast the absence of storms.

Excessive destruction by tropical storms occurs in the world EVERY. SINGLE. YEAR.

Go ahead - find a year when we *haven't* had reports of serious storms damaging something, somewhere!
 
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I predict there will a great rubbing of parts.

The line to worship me as your prophet cues up at my feet. Please bring me some gouda cheese and Triscuits. Thank you, you are blessed.
 
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