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Merged Ukraine erupts in riots and general strike.

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RT Documentary "Crimea unmasking revolution"


If you want to call this propaganda I won't argue too much, but it's worth watching anyway. Contains a couple of clips that made the rounds and are certainly authentic, including the one I mentioned of the group of counter-protesters being stopped and brutalized while traveling in their buses. (Alleged) Participants are interviewed. Some interesting footage of the "clashes" between Crimea Tatars and pro-Russian protesters. Bit of allahuakbarking going on there and I heard that it stayed a single event after the Tatar leader sitting somewhere in Russia told the community to stay calm and don't let the extremists (of their Salafist organisation whose name I can't recall) fuel the fire.
 
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Putin will probably keep the Crimea, but the price will be incredibly high..

If Russia completes a shotgun wedding with Crimea, Putin might as well paint a red X on his soldier's backs, with the words "terrorist attacks go here."
 
CE, about snipers shooting to kill.

Let me let you in on a little secret. Their entire raison d'etre is to shoot to kill. That is why they are called snipers.

Understand?
 
CE, about snipers shooting to kill.

Let me let you in on a little secret. Their entire raison d'etre is to shoot to kill. That is why they are called snipers.

Understand?


Of course I do. The inlet to my direct quote was to provide context to those not on speed about the topic. To illustrate the difference to what the guys seen in front of the October Palace do. Which is not sniping, as an expert like you is easily able to inform the uninformed about, n'est-ce pas?
 
Looks like all pretense of democracy is now dropped as the rebels in the Crimean parliament declared independence even ahead of the referendum.
 
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Looks like all pretense of democracy is now dropped as the rebels in the Crimean parliament declared independence even ahead of the referendum.

And I don't think this bunch of clowns have any Thomas Jeffersions John Adams,or Ben Franklin's among them......
 
Nato beefs up air drills in and around the Black Sea.

In Poland - a staunch U.S. ally still haunted by decades of Russian domination during the Cold War - officials say the scope of the air exercise was beefed up specifically in response to the Russian intervention in Crimea.

Speaking on Monday at a Polish rocket defense site, not far from the Russian Baltic Fleet's base at Kaliningrad, Polish defense minister Tomasz Siemoniak said the exercise was to have been smaller, involving only transport aircraft.

But Siemoniak said that after the Russian military intervention in Crimea, Warsaw asked the Pentagon to send fighter jets instead. At least 12 F-16 fighters would be arriving in Poland this week, with 300 service personnel.

"This was our request," said Siemoniak. "We really appreciate that the reaction was that quick and significant."
 
The German internet is laughing at "prime minister" Yats at the moment for his reaction to people visiting his website and taking a close look at the partners of his foundation: It was taken offline over the weekend. :D

But today it came back - yes, the internet has a memory, you clowns, too late - so the screenshot that was made for posterity isn't necessary ... atm.

Quite a list there. Must be very encouraging for those seeking "independence" of Ukraine. Pinchuk Foundation - a major oligarch, German Marshall Fund (of The United States), Chatham House, Soros' Renaissance Foundation, NATO Information and Documentation Center, US State Department, National Endowment for "Democracy", the Polish Embassy, Horizon Capital Hedgefond, a Ukrainian furniture factory (Family?) and Swedbank.

LOL.

Janukovic isn't dead, btw, he made another public statement today and still considers himself to be legitimate president:

 
You're kidding. Really?

"RT is not about the truth; it's about promoting a Putinist agenda," Wahl told CNN. "And I can tell you firsthand, it's about bashing America."

That's shocking news, Mz Wahl. When did you first become aware of this?
 
You're kidding. Really?



That's shocking news, Mz Wahl. When did you first become aware of this?

Ms Wahl becoming aware of this suddenly after working for RT for two years does remind me of Louis (Claude Rains) in Casablanca being "shocked...SHOCKED" to find out there is gambling going on in Rick's Place......
 
The German internet is laughing at "prime minister" Yats at the moment for his reaction to people visiting his website and taking a close look at the partners of his foundation: It was taken offline over the weekend. :D

But today it came back - yes, the internet has a memory, you clowns, too late - so the screenshot that was made for posterity isn't necessary ... atm.

Quite a list there. Must be very encouraging for those seeking "independence" of Ukraine. Pinchuk Foundation - a major oligarch, German Marshall Fund (of The United States), Chatham House, Soros' Renaissance Foundation, NATO Information and Documentation Center, US State Department, National Endowment for "Democracy", the Polish Embassy, Horizon Capital Hedgefond, a Ukrainian furniture factory (Family?) and Swedbank.

LOL.

Just so I get this straight:

A bunch of pro-democracy organizations in the US, Eastern European countries, Western European businesses, and native Ukrainians supporting the continued existence of Ukraine as an independent and sovereign state = imperialism.

Russian troops occupying parts of Ukraine and the Crimean parliament declaring that they're no longer part of Ukraine but instead are part of Russia = not imperialism.
 
Watch the vid.
I was particularly impressed by the list of people who got fired for doing the same thing she did.

In other related news: Liz Wahl planned her stunt together with James Krichick. That's the guy who was certain that he would get kicked off RT when he started rambling about gay rights, and was visibly embarassed when he ran out of things to say.
A few days ago he also spent time harassing people in front of the RT washington building, and was *shocked* that they wouldn't even call the police on him!
 
Watch the vid.
I was particularly impressed by the list of people who got fired for doing the same thing she did.

In other related news: Liz Wahl planned her stunt together with James Krichick. That's the guy who was certain that he would get kicked off RT when he started rambling about gay rights, and was visibly embarassed when he ran out of things to say.
A few days ago he also spent time harassing people in front of the RT washington building, and was *shocked* that they wouldn't even call the police on him!

So you're saying RT is not a propaganda outlet because they don't immediately fire people when they go off script as long as they jump back aboard, and then try to use the situation to con useful idiots into believing they're not a propaganda outlet?

Personally I'm kind of happy Martin jumped back in bed with Putin, as that means I don't have to say anything nice about a ******* twoofer.
 
I watched the vid. Russia today was developed by the Kremlin to disseminate government propaganda. That's what it is and that's what it does. Who does or doesn't quit, and who does and doesn't get fired doesn't change that fact in the least.

RT is Russia's propaganda outlet just like VOA is the USG's outlet and Fox News is the Republican party's outlet. I'm sorry your go to "anti-imperialist" news source isn't really a news source, but those are the facts.
 
*chuckles*
I've changed my mind.
Under no circumstances watch that video!
You already know what it is. Explain it to me some more.

Kirchick btw used to work for RFE and Wahl was an intern for Hannity.
 
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