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Are the crucifixion nails of Jesus in Europe?

Alice Shortcake said:
I'm so, so sorry for reviving this shambling monster of a thread, but I've only just come across it after a long absence from the forum. I can honestly say that it's one of the most bizarre things I've ever read. Is there anything too ridiculous for Peace Crusader to believe? Did it never occur to him that 'Ama's' prophecies sound exactly like the ravings of an uneducated person with no understanding of history, geography, world affairs, science or even her own religion?

PC is obviously a lost cause, but in the doomed attempt to educate him a lot of fascinating information came to light. I'd never heard of the Pasiong Mahal before but it clearly exerts a lot of influence over poorly-educated people in the Philippines; unfortunately neither Ka Apaz nor PC seem to realize that the information it contains is based on medieval legends invented to fill in the gaps in the gospel narratives.

Some of the stuff mentioned by PC, however, is so utterly surreal it has to be based on Ka Apaz's own interpretation/misunderstanding of the bible and the Pasiong Mahal. I've never heard of anyone confusing John the Baptist with John the Evangelist (although there was a medieval legend that the latter was the bridegroom at Cana...and Mary Magdalene was the bride!) or the 12-year-old Jesus creating Pontius Pilate out of clay in his own image. There were moments when I was reminded of Menocchio the miller's strange interpretations of the bible and saints' legends as described in Carlo Ginzburg's wonderful book The Cheese and the Worms - perhaps Ka Apaz should be grateful that she's no longer in danger of being burned at the stake for heresy!

Another thing: I was under the impression that at least one of the gospels claimed that Malchus' severed ear was restored by Jesus. As we've seen, one of them mentioned that the wound was 'healed' - not quite the same thing. However, I'm pretty sure that in the film The Greatest Story Ever Told (or was it King of Kings?) there's a scene in which Jesus does reattach the ear. Perhaps Ka Apaz was thinking of this?

Anyway, although PC's refusal to be enlightened was frustrating the thread was a fascinating glimpse into crackpottery. And I'm not talking about that notorious golem Pontius Pilate.
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Thank you for reviving the thread. You may find what I heard from the spirit of Ama bizarre which I am sharing with you. For example, Ama said that it was John the Baptist who was John the Evangelist also. And that he was the bridegroom in the wedding at Cana. I, with others, were surprised when Ama revealed this. But after He explained how it was so, I believed. If He was able to bring Lazarus back to life after being buried for four days, can Jesus not be able to re-attach the severed head of John the Baptist to its torso? I am not asking you to believe what I or Ama says. Just pick up what you think is good for your soul (if you believe you have one) and discard what is evil.

Just remember what Ama said back in 1986-06-13: that there will be a war that will start from the Philippines (from Spratly Islands) and will spread throughout the world. It may be in 2014. Why 2014? Because He said that it will start in the middle of the year and on a Wednesday. 2014-07-02 is the middle of a common year and is a Wednesday. We will see. I do not know when it will occur but I know that it will occur. I am just sharing to you what I heard and my analysis.
 
Happy Christmas, PC.
I'm glad to see you're in form.

I like the idea Jesus re-attached John the Baptist's head to his torso.
And also that the world-wide war has been re-scheduled for mid year of 2014.
Is Ama still prophesying?
 
Ah, the floating nails.
Good times.
A round of Dom to celebrate the floating nails!
 
pakeha said:
Happy Christmas, PC.
I'm glad to see you're in form.

I like the idea Jesus re-attached John the Baptist's head to his torso.
And also that the world-wide war has been re-scheduled for mid year of 2014.
Is Ama still prophesying?
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Merry Christmas to you too, pakeha! And to others as well, Merry Christmas!

I know that the war will happen as the spirit of Ama said. I just do not know when. But I can give my analysis. Over the years, He mentioned Spratly Islands, middle of the year, Wednesday; we can’t hide anywhere without being affected by the war; two-thirds of mankind will die; the one-third that remains will decrease until there are only a few persons all over the world who will remain in about the year 2200; there will be many women against men (maybe because men will be killed) that men will marry one, two, three, five women; etc. I learned this in my association with Ama. Ama revealed that Jesus was born on 05-23 and died on 08-17. I was able to prove both of them true and right.
 
Akhenaten said:
You reckon that's a language that a lot of the posters here would be fluent in, do you?
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No, Akhenaten, I don’t expect any poster would be fluent in the Filipino language. That is why before clicking on the link, I say that the original transcription is in Filipino to warn readers. Even though the language is Filipino, there are a few words that may still be comprehended.
 
PeaceCrusader said:
Just remember what Ama said back in 1986-06-13: that there will be a war that will start from the Philippines (from Spratly Islands) and will spread throughout the world. It may be in 2014. Why 2014? Because He said that it will start in the middle of the year and on a Wednesday. 2014-07-02 is the middle of a common year and is a Wednesday. We will see. I do not know when it will occur but I know that it will occur. I am just sharing to you what I heard and my analysis.
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Is this the same World War that was going to start in the Spratley Islands on a Wednesday in the middle of the year and prevent the 2012 Olympics happening, or is it another World War that is going to start in the Spratley Islands on a Wednesday in the middle of the year?
 
Akhenaten said:
You reckon that's a language that a lot of the posters here would be fluent in, do you?
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Why not? After all, Angeline Imden, the English giantess heiress to the Helene Curtis fortune, was fluent in it (although possibly not so fluent in English).
 
PeaceCrusader said:
No, Akhenaten, I don’t expect any poster would be fluent in the Filipino language. That is why before clicking on the link, I say that the original transcription is in Filipino to warn readers. Even though the language is Filipino, there are a few words that may still be comprehended.
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Mojo said:
Is this the same World War that was going to start in the Spratley Islands on a Wednesday in the middle of the year and prevent the 2012 Olympics happening, or is it another World War that is going to start in the Spratley Islands on a Wednesday in the middle of the year?
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Yes, Mojo, it is the same war. I was wrong in my interpretation that it would prevent the 2012 Olympics happening. The spirit of Ama said that we should not be complacent that what He says do not happen immediately. When the things eventually happen, we will not be amazed. We will not be startled. We will not be afraid. We will not have fear in our heart. He wants us to be brave in the face of the enemies because God leads His soldiers. What I can just say is it will happen in His time, in God’s time.
 
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PeaceCrusader said:
Yes, Mojo, it is the same war. I was wrong in my interpretation that it would prevent the 2012 Olympics happening. The spirit of Ama said that we should not be complacent that what He says do not happen immediately.
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PC, did you forget you told us that if no war happened last year and the London Olympics happened as planned, that you would denounce the old witch as a false prophet?

What does your God think about your lying?
 
AdMan said:
PC, did you forget you told us that if no war happened last year and the London Olympics happened as planned, that you would denounce the old witch as a false prophet?

What does your God think about your lying?
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Yes, AdMan, the London Olympics went through. The prophecy failed. But there is one thing that He said in 2012-05, that it will occur on a Wednesday.

You still do not understand that there are two entities: Ka Apaz, the 74-year-old blind woman from the Philippines whose physical body is appropriated by a spirit, and the spirit of Ama who I believe, like the other listeners, is the spirit of Jesus Christ Himself. He is the one who said that the Olympic Games in London will not be held. I have said in post #694 the purposes of prophecies.

I know that the war will eventually happened, starting from the Philippines, at Spratly Islands, and spread throughout the world, but now, I just guide people what He said and says that it will happen in His time, in God’s time. He mentioned Noah which took about a hundred years before the floods He was saying came and fulfilled the prophecy. I think, it will not take a hundred years to let people know of what will happen.
 
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