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scrappy said:
She's putting the idea together. Plans, tests, etc. Digging out some old teacher friends from Psychology + Parapsychology.

My PC altered via email in June, but last month she purchased a new PC and the spirits were present. She swapped it and still the same. She sent that back too. I didn't witness this but I will check the recordings she's saved from both PCs.
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I'm sorry, but I would love to hear those discussions with customer service:

Flaccon: I need to return this computer.
Customer Service: Yes, ma'am. Is there something wrong with it?
F: Yes, it's defective.
CS: What is the problem?
F: It's full of spirits.

Repeat ad infinitum or ad nauseam, whichever comes first.
 
Scrappy,

This question has come up many times before although with some variation, but I do not recall ever seeing a response, so I will ask it again in the vain hope you may finally offer an answer:

How come you cannot hear what flaccon hears, given that it is so blatantly clear what the spirits are saying and all, until after flaccon tells you what she heard?

In general, no one hears what flaccon hears until after flaccon announces what she heard. And you don't find this strange....
 
Elizabeth I said:
I'm sorry, but I would love to hear those discussions with customer service:

Flaccon: I need to return this computer.
Customer Service: Yes, ma'am. Is there something wrong with it?
F: Yes, it's defective.
CS: What is the problem?
F: It's full of spirits.

Repeat ad infinitum or ad nauseam, whichever comes first.
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I suspect that flaccon may be a living legend in certain branches of Currys/PC World.
 
scrappy said:
Correction, I record in silence. My room is silent.
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This is incorrect. It is a highly significant error. It may even be the error that's causing all your other errors.

Unless your room was specifically designed and constructed by highly-paid professionals for the express purpose of being silent, it is not silent, even if you think it is. It may sound silent to you as you sit there, but that just means the ambient noise is too quiet for you to notice. It is not, however, too quiet for a microphone to pick up. So when you use a microphone to make a recording of what you think is silence, what you're actually recording is the noise that's too quiet for you to hear, but not too quiet for the mic. When you then play back that recording, but turn the volume way up so that the noise that was previously too quiet to hear is now audible, you're hearing noise that was there all along, but that you just didn't notice. And this is exactly the kind of noise that's easy for our brains to impart with patterns that we want to make out.
 
Quinn said:
This is incorrect. It is a highly significant error. It may even be the error that's causing all your other errors.
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Been there, done that. Neither flaccon nor scrappy will acknowledge that, nor will they identify their particular setup. You are operating in an information vacuum like the rest of us. We still await with bated breath the description of how one must calibrate one's computer in order to hear these voices despite pages and pages of requests for same. flaccon/scrappy are averse to providing details, the better to promote woo.
 
I fear that 'calibration' in this sense, together with an explanation of what precisely is special about flaccon's fingers, will remain a mystery until we too have passed beyond this vale of tears into a cheap laptop. We will then be punished for our scepticism by being made to speak gibberish, imitate budgies and refuse to do card tricks until such time as the church hood releases us from our misery.
 
Alice Shortcake said:
I fear that 'calibration' in this sense, together with an explanation of what precisely is special about flaccon's fingers, will remain a mystery until we too have passed beyond this vale of tears into a cheap laptop. We will then be punished for our scepticism by being made to speak gibberish, imitate budgies and refuse to do card tricks until such time as the church hood releases us from our misery.
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I have remote viewed one of the calibration sessions. It involves getting naked, dancing around, and chanting (after imbibing some spirits.)

IXP
 
Alice Shortcake said:
I fear that 'calibration' in this sense, together with an explanation of what precisely is special about flaccon's fingers, will remain a mystery until we too have passed beyond this vale of tears into a cheap laptop. We will then be punished for our scepticism by being made to speak gibberish, imitate budgies and refuse to do card tricks...
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Don't forget having to explain "the great mystery of life" in terms that flaccon is unable to understand.
 
Alice Shortcake said:
I fear that 'calibration' in this sense, together with an explanation of what precisely is special about flaccon's fingers, will remain a mystery until we too have passed beyond this vale of tears into a cheap laptop. We will then be punished for our scepticism by being made to speak gibberish, imitate budgies and refuse to do card tricks until such time as the church hood releases us from our misery.
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Neither flacon nor scrappy will identify what this mysterious "calibration" is nor the procedure for same.

Neither flacon nor scrappy will identify the test for which they have applied.

Neither flacon nor scrappy will state whether they have listened to the audio provided here.

Neither flacon nor scrappy will adhere to any coherent premise.

And one might wonder why one might be just a tad sceptical.
 
abaddon said:
Neither flacon nor scrappy will identify what this mysterious "calibration" is nor the procedure for same.

Neither flacon nor scrappy will identify the test for which they have applied.

Neither flacon nor scrappy will state whether they have listened to the audio provided here.

Neither flacon nor scrappy will adhere to any coherent premise.

And one might wonder why one might be just a tad sceptical.
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This is why I do not believe either of them to be ill. I believe they are actually attempting to deceive people. If their intent was sincere, as in if they really believed what was happening (or if they were ill), they would be eager to present facts and methods, etc. Their refusal to be clear and concise is all part of their attempt at a hoax.
 
abaddon said:
No. Others have identified that, and speculatively. Neither flacon nor scrappy have done so.
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Post 5534 (my bold):

scrappy said:
I proposed a test on my behalf because it would be interesting to see if my PC can now transfer the spirits into other PCs. I said I'll ask flacon if she'll open the files up, and that's up to her, but I 'm sure she will out of curiosity. I ask her to log on but she says there's little point. She hasn't given up, she moved on, gathered more evidence and approached ASKE. Her next step is a gathering, after that it has to be the news papers.
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Ampulla of Vater said:
This is why I do not believe either of them to be ill. I believe they are actually attempting to deceive people. If their intent was sincere, as in if they really believed what was happening (or if they were ill), they would be eager to present facts and methods, etc. Their refusal to be clear and concise is all part of their attempt at a hoax.
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MmmmmmmmK. I shall adjourn to PM.
 
Alice Shortcake said:
I fear that 'calibration' in this sense, together with an explanation of what precisely is special about flaccon's fingers, will remain a mystery until we too have passed beyond this vale of tears into a cheap laptop. We will then be punished for our scepticism by being made to speak gibberish, imitate budgies and refuse to do card tricks until such time as the church hood releases us from our misery.
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Your spirit will probability resent this punishment, and will rebel by speaking in a clear conversational manner to some silly fantasist, and then switch to garbled static as soon as any skeptics arrive on the scene.
 
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IXP said:
I have remote viewed one of the calibration sessions. It involves getting naked, dancing around, and chanting (after imbibing some spirits.)

IXP
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Respectively disagree. Calibration is accomplished by jiggling the power cable while continuously inhaling for several minutes, until the "spirits" introduce themselves by not killing everyone in the room. My dream body attended one of these operations.
 
Pixel42 said:
8. The applicant is bewildered and eventually decides that the test must not have been fair all along (though they can never point to anything wrong with it) and goes right on believing in their supposed paranormal ability.

See the Connie Sonne threads for a textbook example.

The only exception I'm aware of where an applicant actually did do a dry run before the official test was DowserDon, and he chose to invite two university professors to witness it so his humiliation still wasn't exactly private.
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If I recall correctly, rather than accepting that dowsing doesn't work, DowserDon at first was bewildered at the lack of positive results, and later concluded that there had been a flaw in the test protocol-- despite his having agreed before the test that the procedure was fair and adequate.

At least he kept the witness group rather small. If flaccon hires a hall, one wonders how many people she would invite.
 
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