JFK's assassination: your thoughts

[NightStar76]

Good news, everyone! The JFK conspiracy conspiracy theory is finished! Jerome Corsi is writing a book about it. As everyone with any intelligence knows, Jerome Corsi only writes lies. He is so good at writing lies, in fact, that even if what he writes is true when he starts to write, reality itself will be changed before he publishes, just to keep his track record straight.

So, case solved. Once and for all.

 

[BStrong]

I think that it may be worth pointing out that the poll selection for " Probably just Oswald acting alone" continues to increase while the selection "Probably the CIA" has the same two votes it pulled early on in the poll - could it be that all the assertions of factual evidence proving the CIA's involvement is less convincing than the supporters of that theory assert?

 

[Anders Lindman]

Wow. A caller on Coast to Coast today talked about Jackie Kennedy behaving suspicious in the Zapruder film. This is the first time I have heard Jackie even mentioned as potentially being involved in the assassination of JFK in "big media".

The guest and George Noory quickly said things like "no, no, Jackie wasn't involved in the assassination." That was expected. The difference this time compared to the past is that no big show or famous conspiracy researchers have even brought up Jackie as a suspect before.

This seems to me a small seed start for the general public to look closer at what Jackie's role was in and before the assassination.

 

[Anders Lindman]

Ha. Now another caller on Coast to Coast mentioned that Connally behaved suspicious at the time JFK was shot in the head. It's definitely a kind of seed being planted, deliberately or as a natural consequence of information being exposed more and more on the Internet. Lots of "ordinary" people will start to look at the Zapruder film more closely.

 

[RoboTimbo]

I think you'll find that Kennedy behaved the most suspiciously of all. His movements were totally out of character.

 

[Anders Lindman]

I think you'll find that Kennedy behaved the most suspiciously of all. His movements were totally out of character.

I wrote earlier about an outrageous theory that JFK had been replaced by a dummy controlled with wires like a puppet. There were holes in the backseat of the limo where JFK sat. Those could have been holes for the control mechanism of the puppet. And JFK's headshot was faked by a small explosives charge placed inside the head of the puppet. Notice how Jackie prepares herself for the explosion by holding JFK's arm in a steady and still grip: killing of JFK ( Zapruder Film Slow Motion HIGHER QUALITY).flv -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykUuGtqYNfY

 

[TheRedWorm]

I wrote earlier about an outrageous theory that JFK had been replaced by a dummy controlled with wires like a puppet. There were holes in the backseat of the limo where JFK sat. Those could have been holes for the control mechanism of the puppet. And JFK's headshot was faked by a small explosives charge placed inside the head of the puppet. Notice how Jackie prepares herself for the explosion by holding JFK's arm in a steady and still grip: killing of JFK ( Zapruder Film Slow Motion HIGHER QUALITY).flv -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykUuGtqYNfY

Even for you, that's retarded. Why don't you try actually thinking for a change, rather than regurgitating the most insane crap you can find? You won't, of course, but you could at least pretend to try.

 

[RoboTimbo]

I wrote earlier about an outrageous theory that JFK had been replaced by a dummy controlled with wires like a puppet. There were holes in the backseat of the limo where JFK sat. Those could have been holes for the control mechanism of the puppet. And JFK's headshot was faked by a small explosives charge placed inside the head of the puppet. Notice how Jackie prepares herself for the explosion by holding JFK's arm in a steady and still grip: killing of JFK ( Zapruder Film Slow Motion HIGHER QUALITY).flv -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykUuGtqYNfY

We know Kennedy was human because we see the skull matter explode out the right side of his head from Oswald's fatal shot from the TSBD.

I've heard the theory that Jackie and Governor Connelly were both puppets and that Kennedy was the only live human (briefly anyway) in the limo. That Oswald was trying to shoot the Jackie and Connelly puppets but Kennedy got in the way.

That theory has never been debunked. Try and top that.

 

[Anders Lindman]

We know Kennedy was human because we see the skull matter explode out the right side of his head from Oswald's fatal shot from the TSBD.

They could just have filled the plastic puppet head with some goo. In one gross closeup (I don't have the link), the inside of JFK's skullcap looks very shiny, just like how a shell made of plastic would look like. And b.t.w., we don't see Oswald shooting in the Zapruder film.

 

[RoboTimbo]

They could just have filled the plastic puppet head with some goo. In one gross closeup (I don't have the link), the inside of JFK's skullcap looks very shiny, just like how a shell made of plastic would look like. And b.t.w., we don't see Oswald shooting in the Zapruder film.

We don't see any strings in the Z film either.

So you can't top my theory?

 

[Jetblast]

Wow. A caller on Coast to Coast today talked about Jackie Kennedy behaving suspicious in the Zapruder film. This is the first time I have heard Jackie even mentioned as potentially being involved in the assassination of JFK in "big media".

The guest and George Noory quickly said things like "no, no, Jackie wasn't involved in the assassination." That was expected. The difference this time compared to the past is that no big show or famous conspiracy researchers have even brought up Jackie as a suspect before.

This seems to me a small seed start for the general public to look closer at what Jackie's role was in and before the assassination.

What the government does is allow nuts to come in and offer crazy type conspiracy theories in order to make all CTer's look like kooks. Then again you have just the plain nuts themselves who actually believe stuff like Greer shooting Kennedy or Jackie being involved.

 

[Jetblast]

I asked this before, but it was ignored.

Is there something about being highly intelligent that keeps a person from also being a maladjusted loser?

The world is full of highly intelligent maladjusted losers.

We're saying the same thing. The maladjusted loser is the perfect profile for CIA operator because it is so easy to plausibly deny them afterwards. Exactly like what was done with Oswald. The reason deniers ignore the intelligent side of Oswald is because that side shows the true CIA operator he was.


Albert Schweitzer College is very important because it shows Oswald was advised to apply there by his CIA handlers because he would be given bona fides by this obscure institution without question that would be hard to trace. This CIA-connected college was kept obscure deliberately. It wasn't advertised and wasn't known. Therefore official story backers have a real problem explaining how Oswald knew about it. The answer is easy. His CIA handlers told him to apply.

 

[Anders Lindman]

What the government does is allow nuts to come in and offer crazy type conspiracy theories in order to make all CTer's look like kooks. Then again you have just the plain nuts themselves who actually believe stuff like Greer shooting Kennedy or Jackie being involved.

But this was the first time I heard they in some big media channel even mentioned Jackie as potentially being in on the assassination (or staged assassination if that was what it was). All the other past times they rarely have talked about Jackie in relation to conspiracy theories and if they do it's always as being an innocent sweet victim and popular first lady.

 

[Jetblast]

"It isn't working BStrong."

Actually, it is working quite nicely as far as I'm concerned.

You continue to dig the hole I'm pointing you towards without hesitation, and I like that in a CT hawker.

The more you ignore basic explosive chemistry 101, established in the real world facts (CIA recruiting at a Japanese whorehouse? didn't I see that in Goldmember?) and refuse to even begin to demonstrate that you know the difference between fact and fiction, this is a very enjoyable excercise.

I will admit that debate isn't possible with you, but that's par for the course in CT world.

All in all, it's very entertaining to watch someone twist in the logical wind when they don't know they've failed to meet even the lowest standards for informed debate.

I'm starting to believe that you may be a CIA plant to make CT hawkers look bad...

Good, you're running. More self-serving fulmination vs facts.


Oswald's military records show he was treated for a sexually transmitted disease. This was from his CIA undercover work out of the Queen Bee Bar. Oswald's fellow Marines testified he was the only one allowed across the bridge and into the forbidden sector of Atsugi where KGB was operating prostitutes with the intention of getting information from American soldiers. You can see these fellow Marines testify on You-Tube.


The US military advisor, Captain Scott, admitted the explosives used in the Hue radio station bombing of the Buddhists was CIA plastique.


This is evidence of the false flags US was involved in in VietNam via CIA and its methods. Kennedy's problems with CIA and his attempt to control them are well documented. BStrong's very weak McAdams used dish-water isn't anything close to the truths I am relating as you can see in his evasive, back-pedaling, weak responses.

 

[Jetblast]

But this was the first time I heard they in some big media channel even mentioned Jackie as potentially being in on the assassination (or staged assassination if that was what it was). All the other past times they rarely have talked about Jackie in relation to conspiracy theories and if they do it's always as being an innocent sweet victim and popular first lady.

I can see why the deniers would keep you around.

 

[Jetblast]

Garrison could absoluitely be relied on...to make a mess out of whatever he touched.

This is just CIA character defamation dodging of what Garrison really found. CIA needed to do a special operation against Garrison's investigation. That is a posse comitatus violation and obstruction of justice of a New Orleans District Attorney's investigation. It's obvious CIA wouldn't have acted against Garrison unless they were worried about something.

BStrong totally dodges Shaw's CIA background through Permindex. Shaw listed membership on Permindex's board in his resume.

 

[kookbreaker]

This is just CIA character defamation dodging of what Garrison really found.

Nonsense. The primary detractors of Garrison were other conspiracy theorists who flocked to his side and then became disillusioned when they realized he was a nut. If that wasn't enough then the pathetic attempt to convict Shaw showed the world that the Emperor had no clothes.

 

[Regnad Kcin]

Jetblast:

Any chance you'll be offering up anything but speculation, assumption, unsupported assertion, and dismissive lip curls? No? Well, carry on then.

 

[RoboTimbo]

But this was the first time I heard they in some big media channel even mentioned Jackie as potentially being in on the assassination (or staged assassination if that was what it was). All the other past times they rarely have talked about Jackie in relation to conspiracy theories and if they do it's always as being an innocent sweet victim and popular first lady.

I can see why the deniers would keep you around.

Don't worry about it, Anders. You spout goofiness whichever way you choose and let JetBlast spout his whichever way he chooses.

 

[BStrong]

Good, you're running. More self-serving fulmination vs facts.


Oswald's military records show he was treated for a sexually transmitted disease. This was from his CIA undercover work out of the Queen Bee Bar. Oswald's fellow Marines testified he was the only one allowed across the bridge and into the forbidden sector of Atsugi where KGB was operating prostitutes with the intention of getting information from American soldiers. You can see these fellow Marines testify on You-Tube.


The US military advisor, Captain Scott, admitted the explosives used in the Hue radio station bombing of the Buddhists was CIA plastique.


This is evidence of the false flags US was involved in in VietNam via CIA and its methods. Kennedy's problems with CIA and his attempt to control them are well documented. BStrong's very weak McAdams used dish-water isn't anything close to the truths I am relating as you can see in his evasive, back-pedaling, weak responses.

What did LHO pick up? CIAids?

Did he pick it up at the KGB whorehouse, the CIA whorehouse/recruiting station, or from a public toilet (Private! that's a hell of a place to screw a woman)

You have failed completely in discussing any issue in this thread, but wish to point readers towards secondary or worse sources of information where my self and other posters have repeatedly posted links supporting our position.

Worse, In two earlier posts of mine I referenced an actual CIA source, Clare Petty, and suggested you might want to explore his story, but you either didn't or you did and knew that he would knock the legs off your little CIA as universal boogyman fantasy.

Clare Edward Petty worked directly under James Jesus Angleton in counter intelligence, and I'd thought a cat as (self described) well informed as you would know this, but Petty's assignment from Angelton was to ferret out the Sov. mole in the CIA, which Clare believed he did.

He submitted a report to the Director of Intelligence naming Angelton as the mole.

Clare also submitted his retirement papers with the report.

Angelton retired shortly thereafter.

To educate yourself about the agency rather than follow fiction down the logic hole, might want to read the book that details this episode in CIA history:

http://www.amazon.com/Wilderness-Mirrors-Deception-Destroyed-Important/dp/1585748242

I do like the prosties as Mata Hari meme though, it fits right in there with all the other fictional ******** you evidently buy wholsale.

I've tried to find a link to Cpt. Scott and his Magnificent Plastic, but came up -0-. Linky?

I've already posted in detail about how the ME was horribly wrong in his "it could only be plastic" **** up, but I'd love to see some factual discussion or examination of the evidence if such exists.