Before you get into more of a tizzy about LHO and the theory that Angleton had anything to do with him, better to read up on a fella by the name of Clare Petty and his CIA career. And LHO had socialist/communist beliefs since he was a kid, and unless you want to assert the LHO was part of some secret CIA "I was a teenage commie" op, the assertion that LHO was run as some sort of double agent is more Hollywood fantasy.
Your McAdams script isn't working. Investigators spoke to real communists in America. They said that all real communists attended their meetings and showed ideological interest in communism. Those real communists said Oswald never attended any communist functions or meetings. An agent provocateur told Banister there was a guy out on the street handing out Fair Play For Cuba leaflets. Banister told that agent "Don't worry, he's one of ours." (referring to Oswald) Don't bother presenting that lying McAdams stuff. By the way, the Russians said Oswald avoided their communist meetings also.
"Expensive spy bar?" is that where all the drinks are shaken, not stirred?
Yes, this is documented. Let your trolling level of response to it be duly noted. You have dodged a point that is backed by fact. Thank you.
Point of fact. When the CIA recruits US military personnel, they don't do it at the bar or the whorehouse, they do it in an office on base, and aptitude tests are given and contracts are signed, and the service member either is sent out TDY (Temporary Duty, bet you haven't heard of that one) to work for the agency, or they finish their enlistments and go to work.
The bar was a place where CIA recruited and conducted covert doings in Atsugi. You're in contempt of known records of CIA activities and methods. In any case your honest government form answer dodge conspicuously makes no effort to answer the true facts that Oswald's fellow marines testified to this. Oswald was hanging out in places far above his lone nut pay-scale and with persons that were known to be associated with CIA. Your attempt at playing dumb is a waste of my time. The facts will bear me out as far as that bar. CIA records show that the Queen Bee was a major KGB spying operation using attractive prostitutes.
CT hawkers fantasy ^^^^ LHO knew dick about U2's other than they had wings, flew and they took photos in flight. Like I said earlier, half-assed Article 15 prone PFC's don't know much about anything other than standing watch and policing the area.
Oswald was probably using his radar knowledge as a ruse to gain entry to the USSR for other unknown spying reasons. He had enough unanswered questions about him at Atsugi like the Queen Bee to make him more than the lowly private you are desperately trying to make him despite the facts.
In his book 'Atsugi Assassins' fellow Marine Jensen said he saw Oswald at an MK-ULTRA training camp. We are well through the looking glass with Oswald. In the end you fail to answer the point that Oswald didn't need to know "dick" about U-2's or radars as long as he carried a microfilm of valuable radar information. Paymaster Wilcott said he regularly gave Oswald CIA paychecks.
And the CIA "travel agent" "debriefed" LHO how exactly?
All you need to know is they lied about it. The sending of a covert CIA operator posing as a travel assistance agent is classic of counterintelligence operations not wanting to expose a live operator.
Since you have yet to prove that LHO was an asset for the agency, the words above have no bearing on reality.
Military analyst John Newman already proved it. Read his book 'Oswald And The CIA'. Newman found CIA witnesses who saw Oswald's file on the undercover agent stack at CIA HQ. Newman also proved by file routing codes that Angleton guided Oswald's files safely past 201 file flagging that would have triggered monitoring. You are so far behind on this that you really have no place taking the attitude you do since you're embarrassing yourself.
Otto Otepka worked for the State Department. When he demanded Oswald's files he suddenly found himself being forced into a career change. When he resisted and got Oswald's files anyway his safe was broken in to and the files stolen. Otepka then had career problems. Lovely people you guys so sincerely and honestly back.
The CIA/FBI knew who LHO was, and that's pretty much the extent of their involvement with him pre-Dallas.
You bet they did.
The only people that seem to believe Garrison was anything other than a local joke in NOLA are the after-the-fact JFK CT hawkers and that well known intellectual, Oliver Stone, who managed to make a successful movie out of Garrison's fantasy.
James DiEugenio has pretty much exonerated Garrison and proven him correct in his book 'Destiny Betrayed'. Most of what you write is so far off it isn't worth answering. Clay Shaw was a CIA agent all the way back to his working with Angleton and British Intelligence in Italy in WWII. He was on the board of the CIA front Permindex Corporation that later got kicked-out of Italy because the Italian government could not figure out where it got its funds from (CIA). The low mocking quality of your input vs the real facts is noted.
Garrison did not interfere with local Mafia operations during his tenure as DA, and the source of the "Tomato salesman" line was an FBI agent in NOLA, but when Garrison was interviewed by the House Select Committee in '78, this is what he said:
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/jim-hsca.htm
Your McAdams denial fodder doesn't answer the point that Garrison was on to the right people in Shaw and the diversion to Marcello was regressive. Garrison had fingered hot players in Shaw, Ferrie, and the Cuban exiles who were all deeply involved in the CIA underground that assassinated JFK.
Any proof that Hurt lied? any proof that Hurt was CIA (Hint: he wasn't)
Any provable (not assertion as evidence) evidence that Oswald actually made the call? I know all about the crumpled up note pulled from the wastebasket, but again, assertion does not equal evidence.
Yes, the telephone operators said it was an out-going call that FBI prevented. A note was found in the trash can that had Hurt's number written in it. A sure sign you've gotten something right is deniers immediately ask for proof. You're just in contempt of the evidence. All you offer is bombast considering the tone you adapt while offering such weak excuses.
Newman writes like a man with a paper *******. As a historian he may have expertise, as an intelligence office wonk, he knows the file system. His opinion as expressed in his book is best described as a classic example of conclusion jumping.
CIA defamation methods. When someone really nails you like Newman attack him at the petty level personally. You are obviously struggling with what he proved and can't really come up with any credible answer for it. At least McAdams thought of a new word besides factoid when denying Newman's proof. There's no doubt Oswald's files were covertly routed in order to avoid flagging.
Back to ASC again? JB, I get it, you have an "advertise" fetish, but for you to prevail on this point you'd need to prove that the name "ASC" did not appear in print in any other context than an "advertizment."
A ballsy reversal. All you are really saying here is you can't provide any journal, newspaper, or source Oswald would have access to that made him aware of ASC. But you snared yourself in your own deceit here because you need to explain how exactly Oswald got application forms for that college? The Warren Commission avoided this not because it was minutia but because thorough analysis would have shown there were no such articles or references. You are trying to hide behind the fact that 50 friggin years of research has not uncovered a single article or literature mentioning Albert Schweitzer College despite all the incredibly prolific research that has been done on the assassination. Nope, you're still coming up empty.
Do you know that the French dropped aerial bombs on the VM the whole time they were in Indochina prior to losing their lease in '54, and some of those aerial bombs were duds...and the VM did then exactly what the VC did later, sweat out the E with hot water (when available) and by hand if not, and as I stated before, the E or anyone else can not determine HE type by injuries alone, and the VC absolutely had plastic type explosives going back to before '54.
What is it about Captain Scott admitting it was CIA plastique do you not understand? You shoot yourself in the foot because any borrowed high explosive would require a metal container that would make shrapnel. Very weak stuff you offer. Time wasting, disingenuous excuses.
Rubbish. The Viet Cong were not about to incur the Buddhists against them in such a way. You are dodging the admitted context that CIA tried to set-up Diem as being responsible in order to divide the Buddhists against him. Running after your dishonest entries is a waste of time. I'd bet a thorough analysis would show the Viet Cong had no such plastique in Hue at the time.
Again, you're wrong.
The VC had everything that the SVN had through diversion or theft, and bulk explosives of several types from material scavenged from dud ordnance.
Links might be useful for discussion if you wish to provide them
Scott said the CIA was the only group with that plastique at the time.
You're making-up offhand stuff that doesn't answer the true facts.
You are deluding yourself that the proven context of this wasn't CIA trying to set-up Diem as having shot artillery at the Buddhists. Your disingenuous excuse-making becomes apparent if you include the full context you so conveniently ignore. The Viet Cong wanted to bring the Buddhists against them for what reason again?
It isn't working BStrong.
