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tsig said:
When you realize that all those people talking about life before and after death can't know any more about it than you do a lot of scales fall from the eyes.
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And of course that's why religions like to use it. It's the ultimate "gap" for the god of the gaps.
 
tsig said:
Thanks for the link, it's been a while since I read it. I've never seen a religious type comment on it, now why could that be?

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The comment thread on the youtube video has some Christian replies. Religion is not cast in a good light by the responses.
 
halleyscomet said:
I should hunt up the copy of "The Restored Protocols of the Elders of Zion" that Mormon cultist gave me a few years ago. It was wild, complete with footnotes correlating it to Mormon history in Utah and advice for using it for future Mormon dominance.

It's as valid a holy text as the Book of Abraham.
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I hunted through old papers in the basement, and my mimeographed, hand stapled copy of the volume in question is nowhere to be found. I decided to e-mail one of the people still in the cult, and he replied back pretty quickly. It turns out there's been keen interest in digitizing the works they've been circulating in a lower tech form. Apparently in 2013, they're still photocopying typed pages from the 1980's. I jokingly asked if they were Mormons or Mennonites.

Long story short, it looks like once the book has been retyped, I'll be asked to format it for distribution though Kindle and Nook. Yeah me?

The "Official Story" they're going with is that Brigham Young received what they call the "Paths of the Elders of Zion" in a series of revelations from Jesus himself. It was circulated among the "Leading elders," helped them found Utah as a Mormon utopia and the copies were lost during the crackdown on Mormon polygamy, supposedly destroyed by the US Government.

It was plagiarized a couple of times by people trying to use their "corrupt" version to attack Jews, before being "restored" by the guy who was the "Prophet" of this splinter group in the 1940's. I'm tempted to ask if a peeping hat was used, but I may be pushing my luck as it is.
 
halleyscomet said:
The comment thread on the youtube video has some Christian replies. Religion is not cast in a good light by the responses.
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I love the ones that say "That video really skewered that other religion but it doesn't apply to my religion because I know mine is right" or "We don't kiss Hanks' ass, we kiss gods'".
 
halleyscomet said:
I hunted through old papers in the basement, and my mimeographed, hand stapled copy of the volume in question is nowhere to be found. I decided to e-mail one of the people still in the cult, and he replied back pretty quickly. It turns out there's been keen interest in digitizing the works they've been circulating in a lower tech form. Apparently in 2013, they're still photocopying typed pages from the 1980's. I jokingly asked if they were Mormons or Mennonites.

Long story short, it looks like once the book has been retyped, I'll be asked to format it for distribution though Kindle and Nook. Yeah me?

The "Official Story" they're going with is that Brigham Young received what they call the "Paths of the Elders of Zion" in a series of revelations from Jesus himself. It was circulated among the "Leading elders," helped them found Utah as a Mormon utopia and the copies were lost during the crackdown on Mormon polygamy, supposedly destroyed by the US Government.

It was plagiarized a couple of times by people trying to use their "corrupt" version to attack Jews, before being "restored" by the guy who was the "Prophet" of this splinter group in the 1940's. I'm tempted to ask if a peeping hat was used, but I may be pushing my luck as it is.
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The "Word of God" getting lost is a repeating theme in Mormonism. First about 300 years after Christ hence the need for the BoM, then the initiation rituals of Masonry and. of course, the BoA.

Someone is awfully careless with the priceless W'oG.
 
tsig said:
The "Word of God" getting lost is a repeating theme in Mormonism. First about 300 years after Christ hence the need for the BoM, then the initiation rituals of Masonry and. of course, the BoA.

Someone is awfully careless with the priceless W'oG.
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It's an awfully convenient way to explain the absence of manuscripts and third party references to the texts, isn't it?

In their version, "The Paths of the Learned Elders of Zion" was dictated to Brigham young over a three year period by Jesus himself. I'm looking forward to getting a digital copy. I only skimmed the version I was given in College, in part because successive generations of mimeographing had made it damn near unreadable.
 
halleyscomet said:
It's an awfully convenient way to explain the absence of manuscripts and third party references to the texts, isn't it?

In their version, "The Paths of the Learned Elders of Zion" was dictated to Brigham young over a three year period by Jesus himself. I'm looking forward to getting a digital copy. I only skimmed the version I was given in College, in part because successive generations of mimeographing had made it damn near unreadable.
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You may be the Oliver Cowdery of the New Dispensation.:jaw-dropp
 
Janadele said:
To live each moment left of this mortal trial in such a way as to enable mine and my families return to the presence of Our Heavenly Father ( and Mother) and to be empowered to keep progressing throughout the eternities.
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Janadele -

Thank you for responding in your own voice. I do appreciate it.

It sounds very noble.

Is the end result that you will be a Goddess with your Husband?
 
tsig said:
You may be the Oliver Cowdery of the New Dispensation.:jaw-dropp
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That would necessitate I either believe or pretend to believe. I think I'd be more of a typesetter who helped publish the first edition of the Book of Mormon but considered the entire thing an absurd fraud.

deaman said:
Is the end result that you will be a Goddess with your Husband?
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Not in her case, her husband isn't Mormon.

It's an interesting situation for her. Mormon cosmology has no real place for her unless her husband is posthumously baptized. Even then, her ascension will be limited because she's bound to her husband and not a good Mormon man.

She won't get her own planet. The husband and his celestial wives would get a planet. The only way she could get in on planet ownership would be if her husband died and she married good Mormon man.
 
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halleyscomet said:
Not in her case, her husband isn't Mormon.

It's an interesting situation for her. Mormon cosmology has no real place for her unless her husband is posthumously baptized. Even then, her ascension will be limited because she's bound to her husband and not a good Mormon man.

She won't get her own planet. The husband and his celestial wives would get a planet. The only way she could get in on planet ownership would be if her husband died and she married good Mormon man.
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Wait........WHAT?

Is this true, Janadele? I sure hope this isn't just something made up.

How did you come about this information halleyscomet, if you don't mind my asking?
 
deaman said:
Wait........WHAT?

Is this true, Janadele? I sure hope this isn't just something made up.

How did you come about this information halleyscomet, if you don't mind my asking?
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Oh, she's mentioned at some point that her husband isn't Mormon, but didn't object to her sons being raised Mormon. It's somewhere in this thread.

Her conversion was as an adult after having been married for a while.
 
deaman said:
Janadele -

Thank you for responding in your own voice. I do appreciate it.

It sounds very noble.

Is the end result that you will be a Goddess with your Husband?
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Deaman, you ask the strangest questions :D
I am a widow, and my husband was a Presbyterian.
 
halleyscomet said:
That would necessitate I either believe or pretend to believe. I think I'd be more of a typesetter who helped publish the first edition of the Book of Mormon but considered the entire thing an absurd fraud.



Not in her case, her husband isn't Mormon.

It's an interesting situation for her. Mormon cosmology has no real place for her unless her husband is posthumously baptized. Even then, her ascension will be limited because she's bound to her husband and not a good Mormon man.

She won't get her own planet. The husband and his celestial wives would get a planet. The only way she could get in on planet ownership would be if her husband died and she married good Mormon man.
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Unlimited power over the sheep, plenty of money and any woman you want, surely you can work up a little spark of faith?:p
 
Janadele said:
Deaman, you ask the strangest questions :D
I am a widow, and my husband was a Presbyterian.
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Thanks for answering, Janadele.

Were your parents of a religious nature? If so, what religion were they?

Were you involved in a different church before your conversion to Mormonism?
 
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