Shooter at DC Shipyard

[Ranb]

If multiple shooters – this is really a question to the US citizens here: I’m sure it would be easy for the officials to identify the deceased shooter. Could they afterwards use the NSA to find out who he’s been communicating with to find out who the other shooters were? Would this classify as a terrorist attack and warrant NSA involvement?

It depends upon how the shooter was communicating. If face to face then eye or ear witnesses will be needed. If using a phone, then a warrant issued to the phone company will probably be sufficient. No NSA needed.

Until the shooter motive is revealed, we won't know if this is a terrorist attack.

Ranb

 

[casebro]

Um.. yes. Or...Maybe? The way you phrased that question i'm not so sure anymore. What did I miss?

The one where the Ragheadistanis used the pressure cooker full of firecrackers? Tracked by cell phones and net?

 

[shadron]

Hmmm. Now I'm wondering how the rates of workplace multiple murders compare govt vs private sector, and also workplace vs 'not workplace' ?

Safer at home vs post office vs shipyard vs Ford factory vs marathon vs movie theater?

A complication is that the Naval Shipyard was really a shipyard in the 19th century. Since WWII it has hosted multiple secret (uhhh, high security) facilities. While this wouldn't normally affect the sort of crimes there, there is a high security presence in the area. This no doubt will raise the voodoo factor that the CT depend upon.

 

[Snarf]

The one where the Ragheadistanis used the pressure cooker full of firecrackers? Tracked by cell phones and net?

Yeah I got that part. To my knowledge that was a terrorist attack, and I wasn’t sure if these latest events were considered that also.

But regardless..

If using a phone, then a warrant issued to the phone company will probably be sufficient. No NSA needed.

Thank you. That answers my question.

 

[Biscuit]

Apparently 12 dead now. Police are looking for 2 other people. Not saying they were shooters but the police want to find these 2 people.

ETA: 8 dead, 16 wounded.

ETA2: Shooter(s) may have used stolen ID card to gain access.

ETA3: Now 12 dead is being reported again.

 

[padego]

"Ragheadistanis"

seriously?

 

[Nessie]

And I guess this is another 'copy cat' of the recent spates of multiple shootings. They come in clusters, it'll quiet down soon, and we'll go a couple years without. So I'll beat the gloom-and-doomers, and reiterate that the rate of multiple murders IS actually down.

Please evidence that.

Here is evidence what you stated is incorrect

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/09/mass-shootings-investigation

The Number of victims has been on the increase.

 

[Spindrift]

I'm thinking the X factor is often 'government worker' going 'postal'.

But then nearly as many of us ARE government workers, eh? 43% of jobs?

43%? Why are you just making up numbers?

 

[Ryokan]

the Ragheadistanis

Careful, your racism is showing.

 

[JoeMorgue]

Safer at home vs post office vs shipyard vs Ford factory vs marathon vs movie theater?

As already noted the "Washington Navy Yard" is a historical name, the establishment hasn't served in capacity as a Naval Yard since the mid-late 1800s. It was used as ammunition depot during WWII and is now mostly office and administrative commands. The Chief of Naval Operations (the Navy's senior most officer) works there, and the headquarters for the Navy JAG (Judge Advocate Corp, essentially the Navy's legal arm), the Office of Naval Reactors, and the Military Sealift Command, among others.

The actual building involved in the shooting is the headquarters for NAVSEA (Naval Sea Systems Command) the largest of the Navy's System Commands (The others being Air, Space, Supply, and Facilities). NAVSEA is responsible for overall ship design, engineering, building, and support so as one can image is a pretty major part of the Navy.

The Washington Navy Yard is a very high security compound. Cellular phones cannot be carried in all or part of most of its buildings and the carrying of civilian weaponry is strictly prohibited, precluded the possibility of this being a mass case of self defense as suggested.

 

[alfaniner]

My friends got married at that exact spot several years ago. I have a picture of the boat at dock that shows on Google maps.

 

[Tricky]

My friends got married at that exact spot several years ago. I have a picture of the boat at dock that shows on Google maps.

I'm guessing the events are not related.

 

[Andy_Ross]

"Ragheadistanis"

seriously?

Like Miss America I suppose.

 

[dudalb]

Needless to Say, Alex Jones is having his usual false flag orgasms over this tragedy:

http://www.infowars.com/

 

[Spindrift]

Needless to Say, Alex Jones is having his usual false flag orgasms over this tragedy:

http://www.infowars.com/

Is anything not a false flag?

 

[Ryokan]

Is anything not a false flag?

Alex Jones.

 

[LTC8K6]

I was in the Army on active duty for 4 years and never carried my rifle on post.
I didn't even have a weapon when serving gate guard duty. I would only have been issued the rifle or the M-60 if I were going to be training with it that day. And I still wouldn't have had ammunition until I got to the training area.

My military weapons were locked in the arms room under control of the armorer(s).

I would have had to retrieve a personal weapon to "shoot back", which would have taken too long and really wouldn't have worked anyway, as I could never have brought it on post once any shooting broke out.

 

[Dissolution]

How can anyone call this a false flag operation?
Nobody even knows what happened, yet.

 

[Mike!]

I'm guessing the events are not related.

Pure speculation on your part.

 

[Bell]

Needless to Say, Alex Jones is having his usual false flag orgasms over this tragedy:

http://www.infowars.com/

How am I not surprised?