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As the article correctly stated: LDS Missionaries are easily identified by their distinctive name tags... also, they do not knock on doors at that time.
 
Janadele said:
As the article correctly stated: LDS Missionaries are easily identified by their distinctive name tags... also, they do not knock on doors at that time.
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You didn't actually answer either of my questions.

Could God have at least inspired you to give an answer?
 
Janadele said:
As the article correctly stated: LDS Missionaries are easily identified by their distinctive name tags... also, they do not knock on doors at that time.
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Why yes, yes they do. They have tags like "elder Johnson" on mere kids who have no more than peach fuzz on their chin.

Last time they came to my door on a mission of harassment, I deconverted one to atheism. It was fun.
 
That is pretty misleading (almost a lie, but we'll just say "stretching things a bit) to have the title "Elder", on a kid.

Or, the title "Saint", on a human being.
 
Janadele said:
As the article correctly stated: LDS Missionaries are easily identified by their distinctive name tags... also, they do not knock on doors at that time.
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Who gives a flying ****?

And before you start complaining about how you've been treated here, Janadele, let me point out you haven't shown the least bit of respect to other posters here who tried to engage you in honest discussion.
 
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Janadele, it's very simple. Criticizing problems in a belief system is not an affront against the gods -- It's an opportunity to fix those problems and discard dogma that doesn't line up with reality. You wouldn't want a god that doesn't line up with reality, would you?

And although you're making claims of disrespect, I don't see much respect coming from your side of the floor. Uttering dire threats of future punishments is not dialogue; it's a cop-out. Trying to scare away legitimate questions isn't a worthwhile use of your time or ours. Please put yourself in our shoes for a few moments and try to see the BoM problems through our eyes.
 
Astreja said:
Janadele, it's very simple. Criticizing problems in a belief system is not an affront against the gods -- It's an opportunity to fix those problems and discard dogma that doesn't line up with reality. You wouldn't want a god that doesn't line up with reality, would you?

And although you're making claims of disrespect, I don't see much respect coming from your side of the floor. Uttering dire threats of future punishments is not dialogue; it's a cop-out. Trying to scare away legitimate questions isn't a worthwhile use of your time or ours. Please put yourself in our shoes for a few moments and try to see the BoM problems through our eyes.
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From a human "Love me or I'll kill you" is deemed insane, from a god "Love me or you'll burn forever", is deemed just and reasonable.

:confused::(:mad:
 
Astreja said:
Janadele, it's very simple. Criticizing problems in a belief system is not an affront against the gods -- It's an opportunity to fix those problems and discard dogma that doesn't line up with reality. You wouldn't want a god that doesn't line up with reality, would you?

And although you're making claims of disrespect, I don't see much respect coming from your side of the floor. Uttering dire threats of future punishments is not dialogue; it's a cop-out. Trying to scare away legitimate questions isn't a worthwhile use of your time or ours. Please put yourself in our shoes for a few moments and try to see the BoM problems through our eyes.
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Oh oh. A voice of reason and intelligence.

Wonderful.

Curious to see see how this plays out.
 
Astreja said:
Janadele, it's very simple. Criticizing problems in a belief system is not an affront against the gods -- It's an opportunity to fix those problems and discard dogma that doesn't line up with reality. You wouldn't want a god that doesn't line up with reality, would you?

And although you're making claims of disrespect, I don't see much respect coming from your side of the floor. Uttering dire threats of future punishments is not dialogue; it's a cop-out. Trying to scare away legitimate questions isn't a worthwhile use of your time or ours. Please put yourself in our shoes for a few moments and try to see the BoM problems through our eyes.
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This ^^^

Regurgitating propaganda isn't advancing any discussion.
 
It seems very obvious that what Janadele wants is NOT discussion.

It sems she wants to convert everyone so she can gain "brownie points" for her extended "Heavenly Vacation in Eternity".

I think she's hoping for a First Class cabin!

Can you tell us if this is in the ballpark, Janadele?
 
Sorry to bring up something that was probably covered in the 159 pages I'm not about to read, but I saw a relevant program yesterday I enjoyed. It was on UWTV, one of our college channels, and was in the series called, Voices of the First Peoples. The series is like the POV and Independent Lens series in that they showcase films made by individuals. I can't find a link to the specific film.

It was a fascinating account with many interviews of Native Americans' experiences with being told by the LDS church they were descended from the Lamanites. They included believers and non-believers but the main points of evidence were, there is no archeological evidence of any battles with shields and swords, the Mormon version of these peoples is closer to European than Native American peoples, again, no evidence. And all the DNA studies show Native Americans are descended from Asian peoples not from Israelites.

They also noted it was not in any indigenous people's traditions in any of the Americas to completely wipe out any tribe they went to war with so the idea they would have obliterated the Nephites was also not consistent with any evidence.

The people interviewed who were not converted to Mormonism were insulted by the claim their dark skin was from sins and they'd turn white when God forgives them or whatever the myth is. And they were perfectly happy with their own beliefs and traditions.
 
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