Honestly, it started about 0.3 seconds after liftoff.
I spoke to its director. You did not. As usual you're posting secondary material and trying to equivocate your way around it to make it say what you need it to say.
Shame.
I think a valid follow-on question to the OP is "has the apollo hoax nonsense ended yet?" Dr. Sox has passed away, cosmored hasn't surfaced in a while, the DIFbats ran off all the apollo debunkers and haven't continued any echo-chamber threads in our absence, the "young aussie genius" seems to have shut up for a while . . . . and around here all we get is someone arguing about what kind of secret messages Kubrick embedded in his films?
I think a valid follow-on question to the OP is "has the apollo hoax nonsense ended yet?" Dr. Sox has passed away, cosmored hasn't surfaced in a while, the DIFbats ran off all the apollo debunkers and haven't continued any echo-chamber threads in our absence, the "young aussie genius" seems to have shut up for a while . . . . and around here all we get is someone arguing about what kind of secret messages Kubrick embedded in his films?
Dr. Sox has passed away
Why can people just not be proud of an amazing acheivement and look forward to the day when, politicians and economics allowing, we go back and doo all the other things as Kennedy said, not becasue they are easy but becsue they are hard......
(Not an American but that was one hell of a speech)
Well that suxs. I might have disagreed with the dude, but I would not have wished that upon him or his family.Wow, I thought you were kidding. He really did pass away at 55!
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/sfgate/obituary.aspx?pid=165635040#fbLoggedOut
Wow, I thought you were kidding. He really did pass away at 55!
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/sfgate/obituary.aspx?pid=165635040#fbLoggedOut
Pretty much immediately. I watched the moon landing on the teevee, and I heard people saying that it never really happened within a few days.
There is some speculation that he may have faked that. At the very least he wrote the obit himself. A member on another forum said he was trying to track down the death certificate to be sure. I wouldn't put faking it past him but I personally doubt it.
I know the thread has moved on since this, but I always thought doing all "the other things" meant all the milestones needed to accomplish the moon landing. (Manned orbit of the Earth, unmanned orbit of moon, manned orbit of moon, rendezvous in space, etc.)
But why, some say, the moon? Why choose this as our goal? And they may well ask why climb the highest mountain? Why, 35 years ago, fly the Atlantic? Why does Rice play Texas?
We choose to go to the moon. We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win, and the others, too.
It's surviving mostly as a result of the CT forums where it is actively discussed banning users, or in the case of the clueless bunch needing a written note from your mother in order to actually join in with their games. There is no 'Apollo Hoax Debate', just pro- and anti- camps that largely don't or can't or won't engage with each other.
This is the post that just got me banned from Letsroll's Apollo 'debate'. It was coming anyway so I gave them what they wanted. By 'debate' I mean exactly the same self-congratulatory garbage beloved of the threads in DIF's Rant Room where any dissenters from their own self-defined status quo are persecuted until they either give up or are forced out (I actually believe DIF's purge was part of a wider movement to make it appear more fluffy, less threatening 'just a bit batty' rather than the resting home for every racist homophobe with a chip on their shoulder that it was becoming).
It's a big image hence the link http://imageshack.us/f/443/jhpw.jpg/
and I took the screenshot to make sure it didn't disappear down their own little memory hole![]()
For those that don't know, "the other things" refer to a list of other difficult endeavors:
http://er.jsc.nasa.gov/seh/ricetalk.htm
The "others, too" are climbing high mountains, flying across the Atlantic, and playing college football against a traditional--and traditionally superior--opponent.
That is, the Moon is a fitting test of our abilities. It would demean us to settle for any lesser challenge, just as it would demean Rice University to decline to play against the University of Texas.
Pretty much immediately. I watched the moon landing on the teevee, and I heard people saying that it never really happened within a few days.