Merged Bigfoot: The Patterson Gimlin Film - Part 4

[GT/CS]

Don't forget that if Bob H. was in the suit he was wearing cowboy boots and they would affect that area.

ETA
I think he said he was wearing cowboy boots but I'm not sure.

 

[Gilbert Syndrome]

Pretending to hunt monsters for profit is up there with what the church does imo, peddle nonsense for profit, same with mediums

 

[Gilbert Syndrome]

Pretend mediums being the most obnoxious imo. I guess the Squatchers have one-up on the church, in that they at least pay tax.

 

[OntarioSquatch]

I used to think the contracting calf muscle was caused by a wader boot/pants creasing as the foot struck the ground. It was an odd feature for a bipedal primate to have, its calf muscle contracting by foot strike rather than by foot push-off. Now I'm entertaining the notion that Patterson was clever enough to employ small water bags in the calf area, making the calf contract momentarily (but at the wrong time) by gravity as the leg and foot were planted. The contraction disappears as the leg and foot push off --- and I'm not sure the water bags would flatten out, unless the long strides and accompanying leg swings mitigated the effect of gravity a bit.

I believe it's normal for the gastrocnemius to contract at foot strike because it's serving its role of preventing the body from falling forward. I can't imagine how anyone could implement such a feature into a large costume and have it work so accurately. It's just unheard of. Things like waders and boots could be ruled out from this because they would make a costume look like baggy, not some 1960's anatomical masterpiece.

 

[Gilbert Syndrome]

OS, the supposed muscle contractions on Patty's legs are just more evidence of a suit. The calf muscle doesn't work like that.

 

[Gilbert Syndrome]

More to the point, the buttocks and glutes of us real bipedal people don't look like they do on Patty when we walk.

 

[Gilbert Syndrome]

The wonder of a pretty gal's butt as she walks, now that's nature! Patty? That's some lad in an ape-***** coloured monkey suit.

 

[Gilbert Syndrome]

If we're cerealistic tho, like Munnz and apply proper sy/fi-ientific method, as he did, we too can achieve total enlightenment.

 

[tsig]

If we're cerealistic tho, like Munnz and apply proper sy/fi-ientific method, as he did, we too can achieve total enlightenment.

And quite a bit of $$$.

 

[Monza]

Also, while I agree that monsters certainly are cool, hunting them after so many repeated fails is just plain silly imo.

I like the fact that I have found just as many Bigfeet as the most expert Bigfoot hunter.

 

[Buhmony]

Looking at that supposed calf contraction closely, I think it's mostly or entirely caused by a part of the overexposed ground or foreground obscuring the leg. All that seems to happen is the ankle area narrows more than anything else bulges. Besides it not being an accurate movement it's likely an illusion.

 

[Resume]

MunnsNonsenseSnip . . . not some 1960's anatomical masterpiece.

Guy in suit. No monkey. Never was. Deal.

 

[Gilbert Syndrome]

I'd never thought of it like that, I guess we're all just as savvy as the FB crew when it comes to bagging a Squatch.

 

[The Shrike]

Here's one I put together. You can click it to enlarge.

One cannot seriously try to explain that "contracting calf muscle" as evidence of either a real bigfoot or a masterfully created suit without addressing all the damning anatomy also apparent in that photo.

Here's what a real leg looks like from the side.

Here are two BIG problems with Patty's leg anatomy:

1) The popliteal fossa (aka "knee pit") is angled outward (toward the camera) while the subject is closer to perpendicular to the camera. The angle is significant; I'd estimate something like 25 or 30 degrees. Either Patty was extremely pigeon-toed (which does not show up on the alleged footprints), or we're seeing suit artifacts.

2) Look at the thigh. Look at it. It's a mess of concave shapes. There is nothing like this showing up on Usain Bolt's leg or anyone else's. A well-muscled leg should appear convex in a photo like this. 'Footers are so obsessed with the apparent convex gastrocnemius looking "anatomically correct" that they are blind to the ridiculous conCAVE appearance to the rectus femoris and vastus lateralis. That's not how it should look.

Roger made a pretty good monster suit but it was hardly "masterful". We should give no quarter to those who argue for the film's authenticity because it displays any great knowledge of hominid anatomy. It doesn't.

 

[ChrisBFRPKY]

It's funny how someone can blindly state "Patty's calf muscle should not look like so and so" How many Sasquatch have you dissected exactly? And what major differences are there in the muscle connections to the foot bone structure? Bone structure of the foot?......

 

[OntarioSquatch]

That's exactly what I'm thinking. Patty (if real) isn't human the way we are, so there are going to be noticable differences in the anatomy. How much will depend on the genetic distance. Expecting her to have the exact same shape as us doesn't make sense to me.

We must try to make observations as unbiasedly as possible. And the reality is, there hasn't been anything in the film itself that suggests she's not a real animal. Pareidolia/nitpicking just doesn't cut it.

 

[Gilbert Syndrome]

That's because the two of you have no idea what you're talking about, clearly. Bigfoot, to you, is a biological anomaly.

 

[dafydd]

It's funny how someone can blindly state "Patty's calf muscle should not look like so and so" How many Sasquatch have you dissected exactly? And what major differences are there in the muscle connections to the foot bone structure? Bone structure of the foot?......

Why has no Bigfoot ever been dissected? I know the answer.

 

[tsig]

That's exactly what I'm thinking. Patty (if real) isn't human the way we are, so there are going to be noticable differences in the anatomy. How much will depend on the genetic distance. Expecting her to have the exact same shape as us doesn't make sense to me.

We must try to make observations as unbiasedly as possible. And the reality is, there hasn't been anything in the film itself that suggests she's not a real animal. Pareidolia/nitpicking just doesn't cut it.

You've got ahold of the wrong end of the stick. No one has to prove Patty isn't real, you have to prove she is.

So just compare what we see in the film to the known bigfoot anatomy...oh wait.

 

[River]

That's exactly what I'm thinking. Patty (if real) isn't human the way we are, so there are going to be noticable differences in the anatomy. How much will depend on the genetic distance. Expecting her to have the exact same shape as us doesn't make sense to me.

We must try to make observations as unbiasedly as possible. And the reality is, there hasn't been anything in the film itself that suggests she's not a real animal. Pareidolia/nitpicking just doesn't cut it.

Lies. Footers just choose to ignore it.


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