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Weiner's Back

ANTPogo said:
No, he was already President of the United States before that happened. What elective office or appointed government position has he held since then?
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The events that I mentioned didn't happen on January 20, 2001. Clinton got to keep his job because his party rallied around him. I'm fine with that actually, but I was just pointing out that the same people who so loudly defended Clinton couldn't throw Weiner under the bus fast enough.
 
ravdin said:
The events that I mentioned didn't happen on January 20, 2001. Clinton got to keep his job because his party rallied around him. I'm fine with that actually, but I was just pointing out that the same people who so loudly defended Clinton couldn't throw Weiner under the bus fast enough.
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Sorry, there are enough differences between the Clinton Situation and the Weiner one. One thing is that Weiner was already forced out of office for this behavior, he continued to engage in it, while seeking another office. He knew that it would not be tolerated, and continued to do so. This shows such a monumental lack of judgement, that nothing Clinton ever did even comes close. Although the absolute deal breaker on Weiner for me is the revelation about spending $45k of campaign funds to hire an investigator to find a hacker that he knew did not exist.
 
cwalner said:
Sorry, there are enough differences between the Clinton Situation and the Weiner one. One thing is that Weiner was already forced out of office for this behavior, he continued to engage in it, while seeking another office. He knew that it would not be tolerated, and continued to do so. This shows such a monumental lack of judgement, that nothing Clinton ever did even comes close. Although the absolute deal breaker on Weiner for me is the revelation about spending $45k of campaign funds to hire an investigator to find a hacker that he knew did not exist.
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"Doesn't come close" on lack of judgment? Ha! What doesn't come close is that Weiner obviously lacks Clinton's political skills and personal charm.
 
ANTPogo said:
No, he was already President of the United States before that happened. What elective office or appointed government position has he held since then?
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Ummm... are you confused about the difference between holding office and getting elected to office? Or do you just have your dates completely mixed up? Because Clinton most definitely held the office of President after the Lewinsky scandal spilled onto her dress the front pages.
 
Ziggurat said:
Ummm... are you confused about the difference between holding office and getting elected to office?
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No, I'm making the point that he had already been re-elected President before the Lewinsky scandal. But once that already-existing term expired, Clinton, unlike (for example) David Vitter and Mark Sanford, never stood for any other elective office (much less won re-election post-scandal), was never supported as a candidate for anything by the Democrats, and was never even appointed to a government post.

In short, once he was out of office, Democrats did not want him back in, nor let him back in.
 
ANTPogo said:
No, I'm making the point that he had already been re-elected President before the Lewinsky scandal. But once that already-existing term expired, Clinton, unlike (for example) David Vitter and Mark Sanford, never stood for any other elective office (much less won re-election post-scandal), was never supported as a candidate for anything by the Democrats, and was never even appointed to a government post.

In short, once he was out of office, Democrats did not want him back in, nor let him back in.
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John Quincy Adams served in the House of Representatives after his term as president, and William Howard Taft was appointed to the Supreme Court as Chief Justice. But as I'm sure you know, it's extremely rare for ex-presidents to seek office and I don't know of other examples.
 
ANTPogo said:
No, I'm making the point that he had already been re-elected President before the Lewinsky scandal.
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Then you should have used different words to describe what you meant. Because ravdin's answer was the correct answer to the question you actually asked.

In short, once he was out of office, Democrats did not want him back in, nor let him back in.
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Presidents basically never run for office again after their second term, so that's not exactly saying much.

ETA: I guess ravdin uncovered some very old examples, but they're not really relevant anymore.
 
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Ziggurat said:
Then you should have used different words to describe what you meant. Because ravdin's answer was the correct answer to the question you actually asked.
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Then I apologize for asking it incorrectly, and am glad for the opportunity to provide clarification.

Presidents basically never run for office again after their second term, so that's not exactly saying much.
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It's still no less true.
 
thaiboxerken said:
Who made it public, conservatives?
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The victims. If they're mostly liberals, it's because Filthy Filner was mostly around liberals and so that's naturally who he victimized. But they came forward because they were victims, and that's not political.

But the political affiliation of the people who covered up for Filner, even threatening others who complained about his behavior to stay silent, well, that WAS political, and it wasn't done by conservatives.
 
I never could understand why Anthony Weiner pronounces his name [wee-nur], while Jeff Weiner CEO of LInkedin pronounces his [why-nur]. I know a family whose name is Fuchs, and they certainly know better than to change it from the perfectly acceptable [fyuks] to anything else.

In German, [ei] pronounced like [eye] as in "fraulein", and [ie] is pronounced like [fee], as in "wiener" (hot dog) in English.

I'm not alone in wondering if Anthony is conducting some sort of exhibitionist art project.

http://www.franklycurious.com/index.php?itemid=751
Weiner is wrong about how his name ought to be pronounced, however. What's more, his comment that John Boehner should just go with his name—implying that it should be pronounced "boner"—is also wrong. Both names look German, with the correct spelling of "Boehner" being "Böhner.
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Olowkow said:
I never could understand why Anthony Weiner pronounces his name [wee-nur], while Jeff Weiner CEO of LInkedin pronounces his [why-nur]. I know a family whose name is Fuchs, and they certainly know better than to change it from the perfectly acceptable [fyuks] to anything else.

In German, [ei] pronounced like [eye] as in "fraulein", and [ie] is pronounced like [fee], as in "wiener" (hot dog) in English.

I'm not alone in wondering if Anthony is conducting some sort of exhibitionist art project.
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Could be that's just how they always pronounced it. My last name is Italian (though I'm not) but I'm sure we don't pronounce it anywhere near correctly, we went with the 'how it looks' pronunciation, though plenty of people manage to mess even that up.
 
Weiner's weiner

What's the big deal about his back? I thought it was his front that was at issue. Which, if it's anything like his nose, must be an enormous blower. Or, as the case might be, blowee.

Poor guy.
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