"Decipher" means to discover the meaning hidden in an obscure or deliberately obfuscated message. You can't decipher something that isn't a message in the first place. Most crop circles are just pretty pictures, nothing more. Those that do carry a message are often rather obvious.
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"The reason aliens aren't doing crop circles anymore"
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"Decipher" means to discover the meaning hidden in an obscure or deliberately obfuscated message. You can't decipher something that isn't a message in the first place. Most crop circles are just pretty pictures, nothing more. Those that do carry a message are often rather obvious.
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They're just art. Nothing to decipher here citizen, move along.
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Then try to explain this.
Crop Circles: Receiving Messages in Binary Code?
http://www.unsolvedrealm.com/2011/04/21/crop-circles-receiving-messages-in-binary-code/
There's nothing unusual about people vandalising fields. Who says that they have to make pictures or stick to the alphanumeric alphabet? Crop circles are typically made by bored teenagers with nothing better to do with their time. Or made as tourist attractions by farmers. I don't see anything to "explain."
Why are teenagers so often mentioned when people are speculating about the identity of circlemakers? The majority of circlemakers I have met have been much older than 20: only three have been teenagers and two of those were the offspring of circlemaking parents. It doesn't appear to be an activity which particularly appeals to teenagers, bored or otherwise, so I wonder why this myth persists. But then, in the crop circle world, many myths persist without the perpetuators ever subjecting them to any kind of critical analysis.
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Similarly the claim that the formations are made by farmers - as "tourist attractions".
Ridiculous idea. Why should farmers want tourist attractions on their land? They are into growing crops not having hordes of tourists tramping across their fields. It's not as though farmers are serving cream teas or selling souvenirs to the visitors and even if there is a charge being successfully levied on those entering the fields, it is not going to provide a margin of profit which will make the whole exercise financially worthwhile.
Ridiculous idea. Why should farmers want tourist attractions on their land? They are into growing crops not having hordes of tourists tramping across their fields. It's not as though farmers are serving cream teas or selling souvenirs to the visitors and even if there is a charge being successfully levied on those entering the fields, it is not going to provide a margin of profit which will make the whole exercise financially worthwhile.Because usually it's a stereotypical teenage thing to do - make a nuisance of themselves by playing shenanigans on people.
If a farmer has a few hundred woo-woos descend upon him like a plague of brainless zombies he can charge them a lot of money. Especially if the crops aren't worthwhile say due to disease, drought or something else wrong with them.
If a farmer has a few hundred woo-woos descend upon him like a plague of brainless zombies he can charge them a lot of money. Especially if the crops aren't worthwhile say due to disease, drought or something else wrong with them.
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Unless you're a chimpanzee.
I've already explained it:
In response to that you've posted a picture of a face and a copy of a very well known message. I really don't see how you could possibly think you're making a point here.
Similarly the claim that the formations are made by farmers - as "tourist attractions".
See the link in my last post. Some farmers certainly have used crop circles to make money. Generally by selling advertising rather than simply charging entry, but the idea is still similar.
They didn't "use the crop circles to make money". That implies that once the crop circles appeared in their fields, they made money out of them. In the case of the Weetabix formation made in farmer David Hughes' field, this was a commissioned crop circle where the farmer was paid in advance for his field to be used as an advertising space. Initially it had nothing to do with tourist attractions, although it became one, to the farmer's surprise.
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Have you any idea what is involved in making a crop circle, tuxcat? It usually requires a lot of effort, planning, coordination. it does not by any means represent "a stereotypical teenage thing to do". Teenagers are much more likely to want to chill out, get drunk, get stoned etc etc.
How is the farmer going to charge the woo-woos? By standing at the gate to his field all day to collect entrance fees? Not very likely. He's a farmer: he has agricultural duties to attend to. By appointing someone else to man the gate? Also unlikely: he would have to pay them to do so. By placing an honesty box near the gate and a notice requesting the woo-woos to make a contribution? Yes, he can do that and it has worked in the past, but there have also been cases of the honesty box being stolen. I think that has increasingly been the case of late although I am not absolutely sure. It has certainly been happening for some time now. The age of innocence is over.
Teenagers doing crop circles: It's a stereotype. It's like saying that all gays have a voice like a blown turbo or that all blonde women are ditzy eejits. It's patent guff, like all stereotypes and caricatures. They are gross exaggeration. Don't take it seriously. I can imagine that it's complicated to make and it requires a clear head to do a crop circle.
I still don't see why woo-woos think that it's aliens. I suppose they'll start sending us USB drives with Microsoft Word files on it seeing that any extraterrestrial being would of course use our language system according to justintime's source
Stupid and pompously arrogant beyond description to assume that ET intelligence would use a socially-constructed system of expression that was invented by Earthlings.The debates rage on about the existence of ET intelligence. What is known is that we are not being visited by any. Or at least there is no evidence that can actually stand up at a whiff of critique and analysis. The "UFOs" that are classed as UNIDENTIFIED are simply that - unknown. Most are typically astronomical or terrestrial phenomena, specifically Venus and planes.
Attributing an unknown to another unknown is fallacious and requires a leap of logic bigger than Becher's Brook at the Grand National.
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Teenagers doing crop circles: It's a stereotype. It's like saying that all gays have a voice like a blown turbo or that all blonde women are ditzy eejits. It's patent guff, like all stereotypes and caricatures. They are gross exaggeration. Don't take it seriously. I can imagine that it's complicated to make and it requires a clear head to do a crop circle.
I still don't see why woo-woos think that it's aliens. I suppose they'll start sending us USB drives with Microsoft Word files on it seeing that any extraterrestrial being would of course use our language system according to justintime's source
The debates rage on about the existence of ET intelligence. What is known is that we are not being visited by any. Or at least there is no evidence that can actually stand up at a whiff of critique and analysis. The "UFOs" that are classed as UNIDENTIFIED are simply that - unknown. Most are typically astronomical or terrestrial phenomena, specifically Venus and planes.
Attributing an unknown to another unknown is fallacious and requires a leap of logic bigger than Becher's Brook at the Grand National.
I'll first admit I'm not up-and-up on UFO Conspiracy theories. Growing up on shows like "In Search Of..." and the like, naturally I figured aliens were visiting our planet. But like you said, there's no evidence that says we actually have been. These crop circles aren't a sign from above, they're just a waste of perfectly good food.
But what happens when crop circle makers mistakenly end up in a GMO field? Do they have to sanitize themselves?
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The last time I look, a few years ago, there were calendars and books featuring excellent aerial photos of crop circles, so microlight pilots and publishers are also interested in the profit to be made from crop circles; and when I joined a small group to view one near Amesbury, again, a few years ago, the group organiser was a photographer with a definite commercial interest. He charged, and also strongly encouraged us to put money, £4 if I remember correctly in the farmer's box.
My reason for doing this? I just wanted to see one at close quarters!
My reason for doing this? I just wanted to see one at close quarters!
And another question to alien enthusiasts - why would a sufficiently advanced spices go through the trouble of sending astronaughts all the way from their planet when they could just send a probe? Like what we are doing - because it's cheap(ish), safe and removes a vast amount of complications like getting back home, food, water, air etc (making the assumption that ET life does indeed require these things). Whether they do or not, unless they want to live on an alien planet then they'll have to get back home. Far easier to send a remote-controlled probe isn't it.
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There is one reason why an alien species go to all of this trouble. If their star was at the end of its life they would want to go to another world. So they send out passenger ships to all the other stars like ours. The only problem is that there is no evidence that any have actually arrived.
Hmm I suppose but would they be able to tell whether a new planet would be hospitable or dangerous to them?