Stop being so naive. The number of coincidences required for your beloved OCT to work is through the roof. There have been actual estimates done on showing that this is so. You have married yourself to a narrative which makes less sense that a crappy hollywood action movie, and roll your eyes at anyone who dares point out the gaping plot holes in this fictious work. In fact, there was a humorous post by a guy making just this analogy, which I'm going to copy and shove down your throat:
[insert strawman here]
Let's see;
1.
"Tim Osman" was
never part of the official story.
2. No one said he planned from a cave except truthers. In fact, the West killed him in a mansion, as you'll recall.
Not part of official story.
3. The coke thing (actually Pepsi) wasn't revealed until 2011 or so, after he was killed.
4. The "world’s most sophisticated air defense system" was not designed to combat passenger liners flying inside the US. The Pentagon is a stone's throw away from an international airport.
NPOOS.
5. The terrorists had months of training, over a year for most of the pilots.
6. They hit two towers, and one hit the third and set it on fire, which led to its collapse. Truthers struggle to find any possible explanation as to why WTC 7 needed to be destroyed.
7.
Passports have survived plane crashes before. Many of the hijackers were identified through process of DNA elimination, not passports, and there was no need to plant the passport in the first place if the hijackers were on the manifest. Heck, they could just say they found out their identities by investigating.
NPOOS.
8. It's incredible for a plane to
fly in a big circle? Oh, and officially it was 330 degrees. Also, only truthers seem to have a problem with this. In fact,
it was actually a sign of his inexperience.
9. See earlier point about Pentagon's proximity to an airport.
10. The impact
was captured on video. In the background of a grainy, low-res security camera that was intended to record cars. No truther has explained why a camera should be closely monitoring a random stretch of exterior wall.
NPOOS.
Sure is
Masochistic Lies up in hurr. And that's just the first paragraph.
11. a.
It was possible, and many of them may not have been cellphone calls. b. This is yet another example of Schrodinger's Competence; these dastardly master planners making the official story things Truthers claim are "obviously" false. Plus, you know, putting out reams of documents about what happened, which would make it easier for people to spot inconsistencies, instead of burying them under National Security excuses. Oh, and then fighting a war over weapons that didn't exist. And not deciding to plant any weapons or WMDs. It's not like it could be harder than faking a terrorist attack on American soil.
12. No trace except for the shedloads of debris scattered around, much of it in rather large pieces, yes.
NPOOS.
13. Bush was informed of the attack and told to sit tight in the school, which was secured, while the Service organized safe transport. Because rushing for safety at the first sign of a threat is likely to expose one's flank. They had to figure out what to do. And, again, why would the Cabal make their frontman look like an incompetent?
14. Silverstein insured the buildings for less than they were worth, and had to be persuaded to do even that by shareholders. And since he had to rebuild the joint,
he hasn't made very much of a profit on the place, if any.
Say, was he part of the conspiracy from the start, or did the bad guys approach him? If the latter, what if he had said no? Even if he didn't go to the FBI or hide in a bunker, and the bad guys killed him, wouldn't it be even more notable if he had died shortly before the attacks?
NPOOS.
15. And now you're just making stuff up. Again, why would the bad guys openly talk about their plans in PNAC?
16. No,
several people with similar names were believed to be found. People with my name, for example, include an australian actor, a hawkery, two creatives (which is really problematic for the SEO of me trying to make a name as an artist), a vet, and a car restorer. You'd think the master conspirators would keep better tabs on their scapegoats.
NPOOS.
Oh, and
using mockery to blur the lines between Truther fiction and reality and claiming it's the "official story" is nakedly dishonest. The reason it's "utterly stupid and fundamentally impossible." is because it's based on truther delusions, not the official story.
Meanwhile, no Truther, in 12 years, has managed to come up with any comprehensive theory that is not physically impossible. Attacking the "official story" because you think it's unlikely is a wee bit hypocritical.
You didn't shove anything down our throats, but I am choking. With laughter.
This is essentially what I'm talking about. You need to go through a ton of information before you can begin to intimately understand the official narrative and whether or not it actually holds water. I have concluded, for various reasons, that it does not. Unfortunately, that has the end result of putting me in a black hole, where I have had to assemble disparate bits of data to come to conclusions, and rely on speculative or circumstancial evidence to generate a narrative.
PROTIP: You should've stopped before you typed that.
As far out as a false flag attack would appear to the layman, it is the only plausible explaination for myself at this point, which I offer no apologys for.
A false flag attack is actually
more complicated than the "official story". No one has explained why Al Qaeda would go along with it,
barring the claim that it didn't exist in the first place, which, again, requires a decades-long conspiracy, directly or indirectly involving tens of thousands of people, to pretend it does.
And the wolf pack shows up, exactly on time...
You are posting in a subforum on a skeptical forum dedicated to the discussion and criticism of 911 CTs. What, pray tell, did you expect?
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So...you think multiple people disagreeing with your shopworn claims is indicative of dogmatic thinking?
Tell you what; go to any significant CT forum with a sockpuppet username, and start questioning things. Just asking them to prove their claims will do. See how nice they are in their responses to you. Several of our members have gotten banned just for disagreeing with truthers on truther forums. Meanwhile, we let Holocaust deniers have the run of the place.
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For someone who claims to be intelligent, you seem to have not considered the possibility that Beachnut is basing his opinion on other, older posts of RP's, since they've both been here much longer than you.
It is a known fact that torture is the most unreliable way to extract information from a suspect.
This entails a lifelong commitment to the process of rational self inquiry and improvement.
