New TWA Flight 800 film coming out

[Sticky Fingers]

All clothes ripped off the bodies? I don't think so. And no blood on the clothes?

Anders.........

If you happen to bother to research airline disasters you will find that, yes, there
have been cases of airplanes de-pressurizing and breaking up at altitude where
many people's clothes are torn off due to the wind forces created/experienced.

 

[Anders Lindman]

Anders.........

If you happen to bother to research airline disasters you will find that, yes, there
have been cases of airplanes de-pressurizing and breaking up at altitude where
many people's clothes are torn off due to the wind forces created/experienced.

But ALL clothes? For a vast number of victims? Must have been a hefty depressuring to strip all those victims completely naked.

 

[Sticky Fingers]

But ALL clothes? For a vast number of victims? Must have been a hefty depressuring to strip all those victims completely naked.

Tornados can put a piece of straw through wood.
So yes. It happens. It is in the record. Even though it seems like
a pant's belt or seatbelt might keep you clothed.

 

[Dcdrac]

anders just becasue you do not know something does not mean it does not happen

 

[jargon buster]

Originally Posted by Anders Lindman
But ALL clothes? For a vast number of victims? Must have been a hefty depressuring to strip all those victims completely naked.

Tornados can put a piece of straw through wood.
So yes. It happens. It is in the record. Even though it seems like
a pant's belt or seatbelt might keep you clothed.

Dont let Anders pull the wool over your eyes with his made up nonsense.
Hes contradicting his previous sources hes quoted.
Nowhere does it say a vast number of people had ALL their clothes torn off.
THe guy is just making stuff up and hoping you will challenge it.
The diving references are laughable.

He isnt even funny anymore, he is downright insulting to the people who died and their families.

Please ignore him.

 

[Anders Lindman]

Dont let Anders pull the wool over your eyes with his made up nonsense.
Hes contradicting his previous sources hes quoted.
Nowhere does it say a vast number of people had ALL their clothes torn off.
THe guy is just making stuff up and hoping you will challenge it.
The diving references are laughable.

He isnt even funny anymore, he is downright insulting to the people who died and their families.

Please ignore him.

Ahem.

"And there were bodies. In this debris field there were bodies, and parts of bodies, everywhere. Some still had their clothes on, but most had some or all of their clothes ripped off. Many were horribly burned or torn apart." -- http://www.jacksjoint.com/twa.htm

MOST has some or ALL... So it could mean that most had all their clothes ripped off.

 

[Sticky Fingers]

Dont let Anders pull the wool over your eyes with his made up nonsense.
Hes contradicting his previous sources hes quoted.
Nowhere does it say a vast number of people had ALL their clothes torn off.
THe guy is just making stuff up and hoping you will challenge it.
The diving references are laughable.

He isnt even funny anymore, he is downright insulting to the people who died and their families.

Please ignore him.

Regardless...........
What concerns me is that he not aware that there have been airline disasters in mid-air where people have their clothes torn off.

Anders. I am not going to do anything more right now then just this wiki here.
Best you look into it..


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Airlines_Flight_611

"Most of the recovered passengers in the rear of the jet (Zones D through E) were found naked, since their clothes were torn off due to the forces of explosive decompression.[11][12] Most of the recovered passengers in the front of the jet (Zones A through C) still had clothes on. Of the recovered passengers, 66 were fully clad, 25 were partially clad and 50 were completely naked. Two of the fully clad passengers were travelling with infants on their laps; the clothing situation of the infants was not stated.[11]"

 

[Anders Lindman]

Anders. I am not going to do anything more right now then just this wiki here.
Best you look into it..


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Airlines_Flight_611

"Most of the recovered passengers in the rear of the jet (Zones D through E) were found naked, since their clothes were torn off due to the forces of explosive decompression.[11][12] Most of the recovered passengers in the front of the jet (Zones A through C) still had clothes on. Of the recovered passengers, 66 were fully clad, 25 were partially clad and 50 were completely naked. Two of the fully clad passengers were travelling with infants on their laps; the clothing situation of the infants was not stated.[11]"

How can that be? Say a pair of jeans with belt. How the heck can decompression rip that off the body? Maybe the Chinese disaster is some kind of staged event too. A Chinese cabal copycating the U.S. cabal. And it says that the plane disintegrated. Sounds like massive bomb rather than some mechanical failure as the official report claims.

 

[Dcdrac]

Get out of your arm chair anders and others might take you seriously.

 

[BazBear]

How can that be? Say a pair of jeans with belt. How the heck can decompression rip that off the body? Maybe the Chinese disaster is some kind of staged event too. A Chinese cabal copycating the U.S. cabal. And it says that the plane disintegrated. Sounds like massive bomb rather than some mechanical failure as the official report claims.

Anders, the forces of explosive decompression can suck entire adult humans out of an aircraft, so why is it so hard to believe it could rip off clothing?

 

[TheRedWorm]

Anders, the forces of explosive decompression can suck entire adult humans out of an aircraft, so why is it so hard to believe it could rip off clothing?

Because by pretending to not believe it, he can get another page or two of replies out of people trying to educate him.

 

[Anders Lindman]

Anders, the forces of explosive decompression can suck entire adult humans out of an aircraft, so why is it so hard to believe it could rip off clothing?

Surely that would make all the people in the plane unconscious immediately! Many stories about the victims talk about how they were conscious all the way until they hit the ocean. Besides the altitude when the crash happened for TWA 800 wasn't high enough to cause much of a decompression difference.

 

[jargon buster]

Ahem.

"And there were bodies. In this debris field there were bodies, and parts of bodies, everywhere. Some still had their clothes on, but most had some or all of their clothes ripped off. Many were horribly burned or torn apart." -- http://www.jacksjoint.com/twa.htm

MOST has some or ALL... So it could mean that most had all their clothes ripped off.

And it could (most likely) mean that only some had all there clothes ripped off, dont you see you are selectively interpreting it so that it fits your trolling.


Read the line of text you quoted again and point out to the readers where it says a vast number had all their clothes ripped off.
That paragraph of text can only be used to interpret that "some" had "all" their clothes ripped off.

I have had to take you off ignore to respond to this and it wasn't for your benefit, it was for the benefit of any lurkers who may be under some misguided notion that you are putting forward a valid argument .

Back on ignore you go.

 

[Anders Lindman]

Back on ignore you go.

How will you be able to see my reply then?

 

[Dcdrac]

it is obvious andes prefers the ignorance of the world of the arm chair non investigator to actually learning anythhing and then dispalying his ignorance to the rest of the world both are truly sad.

 

[phunk]

Special diving gear? Yet they could dive down and see the bodies without such gear? How's that for inconsistency?

It's not inconsistent at all. You can dive to 104 feet for about 15 minutes with recreational diving gear. To stay longer, for example to attempt to enter the wreck and recover bodies, requires extra gear, extra air, and decompression stops during the ascent.

 

[phunk]

But ALL clothes? For a vast number of victims? Must have been a hefty depressuring to strip all those victims completely naked.

It's not the decompression, it's the 500mph wind when they are thrown from the plane.

 

[Anders Lindman]

It's not inconsistent at all. You can dive to 104 feet for about 15 minutes with recreational diving gear. To stay longer, for example to attempt to enter the wreck and recover bodies, requires extra gear, extra air, and decompression stops during the ascent.

Extra oxygen? Weren't they professional divers and would have had that already?

 

[phunk]

Extra oxygen? Weren't they professional divers and would have had that already?

I don't know, were they professionals? How many divers were there? What gear did they have with them? Open circuit? Rebreathers? Was this a reconnaissance dive or were they planning on attempting recovery? Were they waiting for more divers and gear or daylight to arrive before attempting recovery? You don't have any of these facts and you know nothing about diving so stop acting like there was anything suspicious about it.

The first step in something like this would be to locate and survey the wreckage, not recover bodies. Deep recovery dives, especially with so many victims, need to be planned, not just jumped into. This is dangerous work and the safety of the divers is more important than recovering bodies.

 

[Anders Lindman]

The first step in something like this would be to locate and survey the wreckage, not recover bodies.

But imagine if it had been a boat accident, and people trapped in the wreckage with only little air left. Shouldn't the divers be equipped for as fast rescue as possible then?