Piscivore
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What about "porch monkey", did we take that back yet?
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Merged Paula Deen: Use the N word, get the axe
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I bought copies of his books for my daughters and went to read the books with them so that we could discuss the language used in the books. I was pulling my hair out by page two. They had simply deleted all offensive terms so that the sentences were simply missing words. It was so hard to read that I threw the books out, something I never do, no matter how much I hate a book.
Unreadable twain is not an improvement over dealing with the racist language in Twain.
No till whitey gives up on couch potato.
Brian-M
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The language wasn't racist when it was written. It would have been better if you just explained to your daughters that the meanings of words can change over time.
Of course, but I didn't have that opportunity when faced with a book devoid of any such words.
I was thinking about this today and how I would answer the question. The truth is that I have used that word, it was quite common in my youth growing up in the 70s and 80s in Texas. Many people used it in a very derogatory way around me. My friends used it mainly to make fun of all the bigotry around us, but as a youth I'm sure I am guilty of using it in a way that I would find horrific if I were to see it in a video of my life.
But, in the last 20 years? Not that I can remember.
OK, that's not true. A secretary was calling Brazil nuts "****** toes" and I called her on it. I am quite certain I used the word ****** in doing so. I am not one to say "the N-word" as that just sounds stupid.
Which brings me to how I would answer the question in a deposition.
Q: Have you ever used the N-word?
A: I have used many words that include the letter N, which are you interested in?
Q: The racial slur that begins with the letter N?
A: Which one?
Q: you know which one, there is only one!
A: Oh, do you mean ******?
Q: Yes.
A: Then why didn't you say so? Afraid of being asked the same question in a deposition?
Q: Just answer the question.
A: Yes, I just did use the word ******. That makes twice today, if you're keeping count.
Q: Have you ever used it before?
A: Yes.
Q: When?
A: Often as a youth. Less often as an adult.
Q: When was the last time you used it . . . before today?
A: I can't remember using it in the last few years.
Q: What about before then?
A: I once discussed the inappropriateness of calling Brazil nuts ****** toes with an employee, that was about three years ago, maybe four.
Q:Any other times?
A: I'm sure.
Q: When?
A: I really don't know, but you aren't going to get me to say that a word that was common in my youth has never crossed my lips.
Q: Even as an adult?
A: Yes, as an adult I once told some drunk college student that "That ****** thinks he is better than you because he is better than you, he is *********** Earl Campbell, and he will always be better than you."
Q: These seem like self serving examples.
A: These seem like self serving questions.
indeed.
applecorped
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http://wtkr.com/2013/06/25/orders-for-paula-deen-cookbook-surge/
"Advance orders for Paula Deen’s new cookbook have surged since the Food Network and Smithfield Foods axed her for using a racial slur. Orders for “Paula Deen’s New Testament: 250 Favorite Recipes, All Lightened Up” surged on Amazon by nearly 1,300% in the last 24 hours.
The cookbook was ranked 115th on Tuesday, compared to a ranking of 1,592nd on Monday"
lol, that'll cushion the blow
"Advance orders for Paula Deen’s new cookbook have surged since the Food Network and Smithfield Foods axed her for using a racial slur. Orders for “Paula Deen’s New Testament: 250 Favorite Recipes, All Lightened Up” surged on Amazon by nearly 1,300% in the last 24 hours.
The cookbook was ranked 115th on Tuesday, compared to a ranking of 1,592nd on Monday"
lol, that'll cushion the blow
Piscivore
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The Chik-Fil-a Effect, maybe?
truethat
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It doesn't really mean that people bought the books. There are many wholesale book dealers that will buy large quantities of the book and push it up the Amazon ranking system in a temporary way. Unless she sustains it, it doesn't really mean what it looks like.
Piscivore
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"Orders for “Paula Deen’s New Testament: 250 Favorite Recipes, All Lightened Up” surged on Amazon by nearly 1,300% in the last 24 hours."
Why would wholesalers be buying stock from a retailer?
truethat
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Because that is how book sales work on Amazon. If you don't understand it, then go do some research on it. Wholesalers buy the book and sell it through Amazon.
You didn't really think it was a huge Amazon warehouse with all the books in stock did you?
When the wholesalers preorder the book they can also adjust the price by passing on their bulk savings to the customer.
It's probably why her book price looks like this
Are you going to continuing arguing with me about something you obviously know nothing about just because you want to disagree? Or maybe this time you'll admit you don't know what you are talking about?
You didn't really think it was a huge Amazon warehouse with all the books in stock did you?
When the wholesalers preorder the book they can also adjust the price by passing on their bulk savings to the customer.
It's probably why her book price looks like this
Are you going to continuing arguing with me about something you obviously know nothing about just because you want to disagree? Or maybe this time you'll admit you don't know what you are talking about?
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SezMe
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There is one where I live, four in my state.
http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/story/20189920/2012/11/26/a-look-inside-the-amazon-fulfillment-center
truethat
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Of course, but you really think that there are no wholesalers? Seriously I'm not wasting my time here. It's obvious you just googled that now and have no idea what you are talking about as usual.
Don't go research things to back up your preconceived ideas. You argued that wholesalers wouldn't buy her book in bulk. They do. That's how it works. If you don't understand it then go research it. Wholesalers buy books and sell them through Amazon and other sources. Amazon sells it's own as well.
But her ranking will probably have more to do with the wholesalers anticipating people buying her book and stepping up the orders than actual orders by people.
https://authorcentral.amazon.com/gp/help?topicID=200580390
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AlBell
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In a racist rather than xian sense, I'd say likely. ymmv
What imo is also somewhat humorous is that many tv stations replay her interview as often as practical/possible.
Now if they'd just given her airtime to Giada instead of the Neelys it would have been a win-win!
Piscivore
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smartcooky
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The Amazon fulfilment centre is really a massive packhouse, not a warehouse as such. Its like Amazon's own private DHL or Fedex packhouse. Books and items arrive there from the wholesalers and a packed for shipment to customers, but they don't have a permanent stock of books and other items sitting on shelves
desertgal
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Does Paula Deen still get paid? Yes, which will cushion the blow. That was actually the point of the original comment.
alfaniner
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Dangers of skimming...
I first read that as "Clearly the American education system has succeeded in its program to whitetrash Twain's body of work."