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Merged American 77 - The Final Word

cjnewson88

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Hi all.

So as some of you know, around September last year I began a single blog post to list and organise all the available evidence from 9/11 regarding the Pentagon incident into a single, easy to follow list of information for people to work through. The aim, of course, was to provide as much evidence as is available to show people that the conspiracy claims simply do not hold water, and that the only conclusion one should draw based on the evidence is that American 77, and only American 77, piloted by Hani Hanjour, hit the Pentagon.

Since its creation, I have been gradually adding more information and making the page more user friendly. Aside from lacking the knowledge on how the make a linkable table of contents, I have now reached the point where I believe the page now shows as much evidence as is available, and there is little more I can add.

The blog URL is as follows;

http://therightbloggerbastard.blogspot.co.nz/2012/09/american-airlines-77-hit-pentagon.html

I put it to you guys to suggest anything I may have missed, but more importantly to share this around, and help dismiss the conspiracy theories regarding this incident.

For those who go regularly into the comments sections on youtube, you can copy/paste the following shortened URL, which youtube allows with no editing, and links directly to the blog;

therightbloggerbastard.blogspot.co.nz

So pretty much, next time someone comes along and starts spouting Pentagon conspiracy nonsense, either here, other forums, facebook or youtube, please link them to this blog.

Cheers guys,
Suggestions are welcome. :cool:
 
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Your work to combine the real events to MS Flight Sim was exceptional.

I shared this with the wife (and family) of the pilot of flight 11. For her it was sort of a connection she (they) never got. (they said) You did good and thanks. I thought I'd pass this on.
 
DGM said:
Your work to combine the real events to MS Flight Sim was exceptional.

I shared this with the wife (and family) of the pilot of flight 11. For her it was sort of a connection she (they) never got. (they said) You did good and thanks. I thought I'd pass this on.
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Wow thanks DGM, I never knew my reconstructions would be of much value to people so close to the victims/event. Thanks for passing that on.
 
I have always had an affinity towards the pentagon aspect of 9/11. I personally saw the plane that hit the pentagon and my girlfriend who worked there for 22 years was supposed to be in a meeting in the section that was hit but fortunately that meeting was cancelled that morning. I know fire/rescue personnel that worked the scene and people who made national news due to their bravery that day helping people out of the building. You no planers can go f yourself, I saw the truth that day. People I know lived the terror of that day. That is why I am here, as a "debunker". I personally despise these conspiracy retards.
 
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You may not know me I'm more of a lurker than anything around here, however, well done cj. Your web design work is suspect :), but the way you lined up the evidence was great my friend cudos.
 
Where is the "overwhelming evidence"?

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Or you could refer them to the Truther 'final word' by Dr. Wyndham.

The Pentagon Attack: Eyewitnesses, Debris Flow and Other Issues

Even 'truthers' don't buy the no-plane nonsense anymore.
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911 truthers debunk 911 truthers.

"After five years of avoiding the issue, I watched a video of WTC 7 as it fell. After a period of further research, I was shocked and mortified to discover the overwhelming evidence that the official account of 9/11 cannot possibly be true. Since then I have worked to bring this information into public awareness." John D. Wyndham
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http://www.scientistsfor911truth.org/mempages/Wyndham.html

He drops clocks as Pentagon experiements... Can't do RADAR, so he drops clocks. PhD in physics. Retirement - is this what we have to look forward to?

Poor Dr. W - failed truther, used evidence and facts to debunk no-plane dolts.
Where is 911 truth hiding the "overwhelming evidence"? In the failing minds of 911 truthers.

911 truth ignores the evidence from the OP, and use "overwhelming evidence" to form "overwhelming insane claims".
 
The Pentagon False Flag Attack Coincidence(s)

http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2011/02/11/black-911-a-walk-on-the-dark-side/

on September 10, 2001, on the eve of the worst terrorist attack in US history, when Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld acknowledged during a press conference that the Department of Defense (DoD) could not account for $2.3 trillion of the massive Pentagon budget, a number so large as to be incomprehensible.[2] Any remaining hope that the US military might still get its budgetary house in order were dashed at 9:38 am the next morning, when the west wing of the Pentagon exploded in flames and smoke, the target of a terrorist strike. Incredibly, the exact point of impact was the DoD’s accounting offices on the first floor. The surgical destruction of its records and staff, nearly all of whom died in the attack, raises important questions about who benefited from 9/11. Given the Pentagon’s vast size, the statistical odds against this being a coincidence prompted skeptics of the official story to read a dark design into the attack. As Deep Throat said: “Follow the money.”
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Targeting the west wing required a difficult approach over the Arlington skyline. The final approach was especially dicey and amounted to a downhill obstacle course, skirting apartments and a large building complex about a quarter-mile from the Pentagon known as the Naval Annex; which sits atop a hill that rises from the flat ground along the Potomac River.
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Probably the most obvious of all the 9/11 coincidences that prove 9/11 was a false flag attack.
 
I see no evidence of anything than a slanted op ed piece on a website known for its bias.
 
BS. The numerous accounting offices are spread out throughout the pentagon. Iirc the area most affected was naval command.
 
mr moore I have read the whole article and also gone through the website it clearly cannot be taken seriously as a neutral unbiased source for anything.
 
Here is the word that makes me reject your claim:

Clayton Moore said:
...coincidences...
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Coincidence:
WP said:
A coincidence (often stated as a mere coincidence) is a collection of two or more events or conditions, closely related by time, space, form, or other associations which appear unlikely to bear a relationship as either cause to effect or effects of a shared cause, within the observer's or observers' understanding of what cause can produce what effects.
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WP points out, correctly: "From a statistical perspective, coincidences are inevitable and often less remarkable than they may appear intuitively. An example is the birthday problem, where the probability of two individuals sharing a birthday already exceeds 50% with a group of only 23."

In your case: The article imagines that the following is a coincidence:

"the exact point of impact was the DoD’s accounting offices on the first floor"

However, I would argue that the Pentagon has high-value offices throughout, on all sides. Whatever a crashing plane hits is going to appear suspicious to a career CTist like you who desperately wants to see suspicious coincidences everywhere.


It's a classic example of the Texas Sharpshooter Fallacy.


(And if Hanjour had missed the Pentagon altogether, CTists no doubt would find this suspicious and argue that some of the high profile perps, such as Rummy, were located inside the Pentagon and didn't want to be actually put in danger, so an attack on the Pentagon was only feigned, but made to fail)
 
I'm still stuck at the claim that the offices at the point of impact were the DOD accounting offices. Evidence?

Once that's sorted, we can move on with assessing the rest of the claim.
 
Is there any location in the Pentagon, any location at all, where a plane crashing into that particular location would not have destroyed something to which CT's could point and say "Ah HA!"?

Yeah, that's what I thought.
 
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