• Quick note - the problem with Youtube videos not embedding on the forum appears to have been fixed, thanks to ZiprHead. If you do still see problems let me know.

Victor Zammit's new book claiming science has proven the afterlife

DoomMetal

Unregistered
D
Joined
May 1, 2013
Messages
167
I am sure most of you know who Victor Zammit is. But if you don't here is his website:

http://www.victorzammit.com/

He is a fundamentalist spiritualist and his website claims scientific "objective" evidence has proven the afterlife and that skeptics deny, ignore and supress the evidence.

He has just released a new book A Lawyer Presents the Evidence for the Afterlife. It has only been out a few days but it turns out he gave out hundreds of copies to his spiritualist buddies this is why he has already nearly 80 5 star reviews on amazon! http://www.amazon.com/A-Lawyer-Pres...60576&sr=8-1&keywords=Victor+and+Wendy+Zammit

As for the book itself it seems little different than his old book which can be found free on his website. In short he claims long debunked mediums from the early 20th century had scientifically proven the existence of a spirit world.

Zammit has a chapter in his book about the notorious fraud medium Helen Duncan which surprise surprise Zammit claims was genuine as seen here!

http://www.victorzammit.com/book/4thedition/chapter11.html

As you can see Zammit evokes conspiracy theories involving the British Government to supress Duncan's mediumship, total nonsense! And practically everything he writes is false. You only need to go here to see Duncan was a fraud:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helen_Duncan

Now these are the photographs that Zammit claims were genuine "spirit materializations"

Helen_Duncan_fake_ectoplasm.jpg


Those "spirits" look like dolls to me! Maybe because that is what they were!

It amazes me how spiritualists still believe this stuff is genuine in the 21st century and how Zammit is so dishonest in claiming this stuff has proven the afterlife. :boggled:
 
Last edited:
Last edited by a moderator:
Here is another medium that Zammit claims in his book had scientifically proven the afterlife:

Eva Carriere

Cardboard_cut_out_with_Eva_C.png


The "man" on the left was a large cardboard cut-out of Ferdinand I of Bulgaria, the head was adapted from a newspaper article. You can read about it here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eva_Carrière

Yet Zammit claims the cut-out figure was a real spirit materialization, Zammit also forgets to mention that Eva was nude in her séances :rolleyes:
 
Last edited:
DoomMetal said:
Now these are the photographs that Zammit claims were genuine "spirit materializations"
Click to expand...


I'm confused. Does he claim that the strange-looking dolls in the photos were being moved around by spirits? Or that the things in the photos are not, in fact, dolls, but are actually spirits, which just happen to look exactly like dolls? Because if it's the latter, then wow, the guy's even further gone than I realized.
 
Quinn said:
I'm confused. Does he claim that the strange-looking dolls in the photos were being moved around by spirits? Or that the things in the photos are not, in fact, dolls, but are actually spirits, which just happen to look exactly like dolls? Because if it's the latter, then wow, the guy's even further gone than I realized.
Click to expand...

he is much further gone than you realized :p.
 
Aepervius said:
he is much further gone than you realized :p.
Click to expand...


Ah. I see. Ahem.

So, do you suppose there was something unusual that caused those particular spirits to look that way, or do we all turn into puppets from Mr. Rogers' Land Of Make-Believe after we die?
 
I'm confused. Does he claim that the strange-looking dolls in the photos were being moved around by spirits? Or that the things in the photos are not, in fact, dolls, but are actually spirits, which just happen to look exactly like dolls? Because if it's the latter, then wow, the guy's even further gone than I realized.
Click to expand...

He claims the strange-looking doll figures were indeed real spirit materializations. He is not a troll, he actually believes this. Yes it is worrying! Especially as Zammit insults people when they turn round and say they look like dolls!

If you look at the history of "ectoplasm" materializations the entire thing was fraud from the beginning. Most reports of "ectoplasm" died out in the 1950s.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ectoplasm_(paranormal)#Fraud

So, do you suppose there was something unusual that caused those particular spirits to look that way, or do we all turn into puppets from Mr. Rogers' Land Of Make-Believe after we die?
Click to expand...

According to spiritualists the ectoplasm is formed when the "spirits" project their image to the medium by telepathy which is then "materialized" into the ectoplasm.

This is the reason according to the spiritualists why the materializations look funny:

As I understand it from other research in this area, the discarnate must visualize his or her old self and project that image into the ectoplasm. The ability of discarnates to do this apparently varies as much as artistic ability varies among incarnates. While some people have artistic talents and might do a good self portrait, my self-portrait would look more ridiculous than the Duncan materialization above.

But think about it, if you had to telepathically project an image of yourself to someone, what would the self-image be based on? What you see when shaving or applying make-up in the morning or a good photograph of yourself? I’m pretty sure that I would visualize myself based on a 40-year-old photograph. I know that when I sometimes look in the mirror I wonder who it is looking back at me and that person in the mirror does not match the more idealized likeness I have of myself. And I know that when I think of my brother, who died in an accident 40 years ago, I picture him as he appeared in a high-school graduation photo, not as he appeared in some fleeting moment in our interaction during his lifetime.
Click to expand...

The above quote nuttiness was from Michael E. Tymn (Victor Zammit's spiritualist buddy)

http://whitecrowbooks.com/michaeltymn/entry/ectoplasm_hokey_but_true/

Yes it is hard to believe if the spiritualists really believe this or not, it is ABSOLUTELY BONKERS!!!!. It borders on trolling. So instead of dolls or carboard cut out (WHICH WERE ACTUALLY FOUND!!) they were telepathic images projected into ectoplasm... and they only look "silly" because the spirits when they telepathically send their self-image to the medium don't properly remember what they look like :rolleyes:

More on Tymn here:

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Michael_E._Tymn

One word Bonkers ;)
 
Last edited:
Here is another medium that Zammit claims in his book had scientifically proven the afterlife.

Mina Crandon

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mina_Crandon

Mina_Crandon_Fake_Ectoplasm.jpg


The above photograph is a picture of Mina Crandon in a séance with her "spirit" hand... and yes the hand looks like a piece of animal tissue. That is because that is what it was!

In one séance the "spirit" hand was grabbed, it was examined by biologists and was found to be made of a piece of carved animal liver. :eek:

Of course no mention of any of this in Zammit's book. You can only call Zammit dishonest for ignoring such facts, it amazes me how 80 people almost on amazon give his book 5 stars when this information is only a click away on the internet. :jaw-dropp
 
Last edited:
OMG this keeps just getting worse and worse!!

Here is another medium that Zammit claims was genuine in his book:

Mary Marshall

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Mary_Marshall

And the spiritualist who took the photographs was Thomas Glendenning Hamilton.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Glendenning_Hamilton

Zammit claims in his book that both Marshall and Hamilton were genuine and had proven the afterlife in scientific conditions. Let's have a look at some of these photographs that have meant to have proven the afterlife:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-q9uIXRqmP...Y/T1ROKUOJYpc/s1600/2906266420_76986c08b8.jpg

Mary Marshall above, with tissue paper in her mouth and cut-out heads from magazines and newspapers stuck to it. And yes that is the cut-out head of Arthur Conan Doyle!

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_DPowIRbow...BI/AUxqcihBzOA/s400/2905463637_2407d73bfc.jpg

Lmao, how can ANYONE claim such a thing is a real spirit materialization!! Tiny newspaper cut-out of someone's head lol!

To the spiritualists such as Zammit who actually claim such ectoplasm photographs are genuine why would a spirit be that small and why would it be coming out a mediums mouth :jaw-dropp

http://www.spiritarchive.org/uploads/1/2/4/7/12470836/4728969.jpg?423

This women was mentally ill... a rubber glove?? How can spiritualists honestly buy into this nuttiness!!

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3206/2906656382_f1394ffa53.jpg

WHAT is going on??!! Disturbing :eek:

How is tissue paper on her head scientific evidence for the afterlife Victor Zammit?! What world are you in Zammit??! Remember Zammit is the one who in his books claims the photographs taken by Thomas Glendenning Hamilton were all genuine spirit materializations. As seen above we can see that they are nonsense! This stuff is offensive! How can anyone take it seriously? Is it coincidence that Zammit included none of the above photographs in his book? :rolleyes:

Changed hotlinked images to regular links. Please see Rule 5.
Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: zooterkin
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Geez, I certainly hope the preceding pictures are not genuine, because I hate to think the afterlife consists of spending eternity floating aimlessly in a sea of snot...or worse!
 
Stellafane said:
Geez, I certainly hope the preceding pictures are not genuine, because I hate to think the afterlife consists of spending eternity floating aimlessly in a sea of snot...or worse!
Click to expand...


If the medium swallows the wrong way then uncle Charley could wind up being flushed down the porcelain bowl.
 
Let me show some more examples of Zammit's dishonesty.

In his book online on his website, Zammit writes:

Skeptics claim that ectoplasm does not exist and photographs of it are all faked, usually by the medium rolling up cheesecloth in the mouth or anus prior to the séance and pulling it out and making it walk and talk and assume the shape of one’s dead relatives—a feat which I for one would love to see one single skeptic actually demonstrate, especially while tied hand and foot to their chair the way most materialization mediums are!!!
Click to expand...

http://www.victorzammit.com/book/4thedition/chapter10.html

No materialization medium has ever produced "ectoplasm" materializations when they have been tied down with their hand and feet to a chair. See the images above, none of them were completey tied down.

In his chapter 10 (see the link) called "Materialization Mediumship", Zammit claims the following mediums were genuine:

Rita Goold, Mina Crandon, Bangs Sisters, William Eglinton, Helen Duncan, Alec Harris and Jack Webber.

Ok as shown on this thread already Mina Crandon, Jack Webber and Mina Crandon were all frauds. Now lets look at some of the others he claims were genuine and had scientifically proven the afterlife.

1. Rita Good

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rita_Goold

In 1984, Tony Cornell attended a series of séances with Goold. During a séance the spirit Russell materialized, however, Cornell felt the hands of Russell and described them as female like with long nails, he was the same size of Goold when he was meant to be a boy and smelt of Goold's perfume.

The other spirit who materialized Helen Duncan was the same size as Goold but was 224 pounds before she died. At the end of the séance when the lights were turned on Cornell observed that one of the shoes was different on Goold than the one before the séance and that one of her trouser legs was rolled up, indicating that she had changed clothing during the séance. Goold would also play music during her séances which provided cover for her to change clothes and when the music was turned off would pretend to be the spirits.
Click to expand...

So Rita Goold was a fraud.

2. Bangs Sisters

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangs_Sisters

The psychologist Stanley LeFevre Krebs had exposed the Bangs Sisters as frauds, he employed a hidden mirror and caught them tampering with a letter in an envelope and writing a reply in it under the table which they would pretend a spirit had written.
Click to expand...

So the Bangs Sisters were frauds.

3. William Eglinton

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Eglinton

In 1876 Eglinton was exposed as a fraud when the psychical researcher Thomas Colley seized the "spirit" materialization and cut off a portion of its cloak. It was discovered that the cut piece matched a cloth found in Eglinton's suitcase. Colley also pulled the beard off the materialization and it was revealed to be a fake, the same as another one found in the suitcase of Eglinton.
Click to expand...

Eglinton was a fraud.

4. Alec Harris

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alec_Harris

In January 1955, Tony Cornell attended a séance to investigate the mediumship of Harris. In the séance Harris sat behind a curtain cabinet and in total eleven "spirit" figures came out from behind the curtain at different times dressed in different clothing. They walked around the room, communicated with the sitters to then disappear behind the curtain. The room was in complete darkness apart from some dim light in the middle of the room.

Cornell noted that all the figures had a similar stature, they dressed similarly but used different masks and hats. Only one figure came out from the curtain at a time and only minutes after each other. According to the sitters who had touched the figures, their skin felt coarse and rough even though some were supposed to be female. Cornell wrote that a stomach rumble, nicotine smelling breath and a pulse gave it away that all the figures were in fact Harris and that he had dressed up as each one behind the cabinet. The cabinet was not examined before or after the sitting and Harris refused to be searched before or after the sitting.

The spirit figures were also reported to creak and move floor boards as they walked on them, indicating that they were human.
Click to expand...

Alec Harris a fraud.

The list goes on and on. Practically everything Zammit has written about mediumship is a lie. Do his spiritualist followers not bother to check up on the mediums he claims were genuine? You only need to spend a few minutes looking online. :eek:
 
Well, let's not be too hasty...Eva Carrière's shows may have been worth the price of admission. To wit:

wikipedia said:
...Carrière has been described as "perverse and neurotic". She was well known for running around the séance room naked indulging in sexual activities with her audience. Her companion Juliette Bisson (1861–1956) would, during the course of the séance sittings with Schrenck-Notzing, introduce her finger into Eva's vagina to ensure no "ectoplasm" had been loaded there beforehand to fool the investigators, and she would also strip nude at the end of a séance and demanded another full-on gynecological exam.

It has been noted that the mediumship sessions of Carrière with Schrenck-Notzing were pornographic. The photographs that were taken during the séances show Carrière in the nude emerging from her cabinet and others revealing fake ectoplasm strings hanging from her breasts. Another photograph taken revealed ectoplasm in the shape of a deflated, and disembodied penis. Both Juliette Bisson and Carrière were in a sexual relationship together, and they both worked in collaboration with each other to fake the ectoplasm and eroticize their male audience.
Click to expand...

OK, so maybe it wasn't exactly talking with the dead. But I bet it was nevertheless entertaining!
 
Last edited:
Stellafane said:
Well, let's not be too hasty...Eva Carrière's shows may have been worth the price of admission. To wit:



OK, so maybe it wasn't exactly talking with the dead. But I bet it was nevertheless entertaining!
Click to expand...

So they were raising more than just the dead eh?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Back
Top Bottom