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Penultimate Amazing
Thanks all for your replies. I'll summarize what I'm hearing from you all:
1. rcronk thinks God exists and is omnipotent and merciful and kind.
2. Horrible stuff happens.
3. If we were omnipotent and kind, we'd stop the horrible stuff from happening - and we're not even close to being perfect.
4. Since God doesn't stop it from happening, He's either a disgusting monster or He doesn't exist.
5. rcronk claims that God doesn't intervene because our eternal progression is more important that our temporary comfort - that our eternal progression is in fact the whole point of our time here on earth. (And rcronk thinks all children and those in need should be taken care of by us.)
6. Yeah... but if we were omnipotent and kind, we'd stop the horrible stuff from happening - and we're not even close to being perfect.
I think we both understand each other's positions and we'll have to agree to disagree for now since the arguments are starting to repeat, but I do thank each one of you for making me think through my beliefs today and I've gotten more insight into them because of you.
What do you actually mean by "our eternal progression," and how is it defined? Does a person who understands eternal progression take this to the next logical step, which would be to give up prayer and stop trying to pretend that God concerns himself with our daily lives, our sexual habits and so forth? I don't think so.
It seems theists want it both ways. Whenever you can't figure something out, or it does not work, it's because God is so far beyond our understanding, but when you have an agenda, God speaks clearly enough. God is only transcendent and unfathomable when things go wrong. If a person truly and genuinely believed that God's concerns are beyond our power to figure out, how would that person's behavior differ from that of an atheist?