Proof of Life After Death!!

[Garrette]

No, he's a vulture; he feeds off the dead. It's his whole disgusting schtick.

Maybe he's a veech, or a lulture.

A leechture? Vulteech?

 

[dafydd]

Valerie Harper told me.

Who?

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

I would be truly impressed if Garrette and I met on the street. He said, "THINK of a word, any word, and I will tell you what it is." If he guessed it right, I WOULD consider that he could be psychic.

So, exactly like the clip I posted on the previous page which you ignored, then?

Edited by LashL: 

Edited for civility.

You do know that calling people names is against the Membership Agreement that you agreed to when you signed up here, don't you? Making up your own insults is still insulting people.

You're free to be as disparaging about people's ideas as you like, but not them as a person.

 

[ExMinister]

FAKE!! I addressed it in here somewhere. Actually had all his books. Only problem was that I then went to see his show. My bro and I were finding it hard to stop laughing during it. We kept texting either jokes about it! People behind us actually got mad at us! Almost walked out but then it mercifully ended on its own.

I thought so too, though. I also had all his books, just like I had all JE's. When I saw JVP in person 15 years ago, he was nice, just a bit syrupy. But saw him again a few years later and he had morphed into Sylvia Browne, who is so bad she has earned the nickname around here of The Antipsychic. He had the same abrasive sense of humor and rotten accuracy.

But when I saw JE in person he was awful too. I was a believer then, and disappointed but I was still open to the possibility that he was real. Where JVP seemed obnoxious and obviously trying too hard, it was easy to think JE just seemed to be having an off night. Maybe he just seemed more sincere.

But even Sylvia Browne occasionally throws something out there that turns out to be a stunning hit. Sometimes even several in a row. Kind of makes you think maybe they all do.

Sadly, when she does this, she ends up with a convert for life. I know someone like this. More than one actually. Not you, Robin.

And I wonder if pretty much everyone considers themselves more difficult to fool than the next guy.

 

[Nay_Sayer]

FAKE!! I addressed it in here somewhere. Actually had all his books. Only problem was that I then went to see his show. My bro and I were finding it hard to stop laughing during it. We kept writing each either jokes about it! Yes, we're very mature. Even saved the joke sheet! People behind us actually got mad at us! Almost walked out but then it mercifully ended on its own.

Interesting. The disconnect here really is telling.

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

Valerie Harper told me.

I would say that you were trying to make a joke here, except for the fact that you explicitly promised not to do that for 2 days. What is your word worth, Robin?

 

[Slowvehicle]

This is all Carlitos's fault.

May I take this to mean that you will not address my question?

May I ask how, if this is a journey of enlightenment, blaming another person for your behaviour is at all helpful?

 

[Slowvehicle]

No, Garrette's trick makes him look merely like a psychic. Not a medium. The difference is key.

Did you ever address the biblical injunction(s) against consorting with mediums, especially with regard to communicating with the dead?

 

[Robin1]

OK kids, here's my latest Lucy scheme. I just went on the Dr.Phil site and submitted an email explaining the situation over here and asking him to post the entire show that John Edward appeared on. Now, they probably gonna ignore just little ole me, but what if they got LOTS of emails requesting the same thing? Worth a try, right? Anyone interested just go on his site and click on contact Dr.Phil and go from there. There will be a form you can submit. The name of the show is "Skeptics Beware: The Psychic Intuitives are Here" and it aired 12-3-12. Skeptics and Woos...UNITE!

 

[godless dave]

OK let me try this another way. You are wrong, Pixel. Your statement...The ONLY difference between psychics and mediums is how they claim to get the information they provide is WRONG. There is ANOTHER HUGE difference. If someone is truly a psychic they may have absolutely ZERO ability to talk to the dead. Only a psychic MEDIUM can do that.

And that's exactly what Pixel said - the difference is the way they claim to get their information. Mediums claim to get it from the dead. Psychics generally don't.

 

[Garrette]

OK kids, here's my latest Lucy scheme. I just went on the Dr.Phil site and submitted an email explaining the situation over here and asking him to post the entire show that John Edward appeared on. Now, they probably gonna ignore just little ole me, but what if they got LOTS of emails requesting the same thing? Worth a try, right? Anyone interested just go on his site and click on contact Dr.Phil and go from there. There will be a form you can submit. The name of the show is "Skeptics Beware: The Psychic Intuitives are Here" and it aired 12-3-12. Skeptics and Woos...UNITE!

The avoidance is strong in this one.

 

[Donn]

Only a psychic MEDIUM can do that.

What about medium rare psychics?

 

[Robin1]

So, exactly like the clip I posted on the previous page which you ignored, then?



You do know that calling people names is against the Membership Agreement that you agreed to when you signed up here, don't you? Making up your own insults is still insulting people.

You're free to be as disparaging about people's ideas as you like, but not them as a person.

I'm sorry, you're right. When I look at it through your eyes I can see your point. Please know I really was just trying to be funny. My apologies to all.
Sincerely,
S.J.C = Stupid Joke-Making Clown

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

I'm sorry, you're right. When I look at it through your eyes I can see your point. Please know I really was just trying to be funny. My apologies to all.
Sincerely,
S.J.C = Stupid Joke-Making Clown

What about the video you're avoiding commenting on?

 

[Robin1]

I don't understand. If you believe one person is capable of doing it, why wouldn't others also be able to do it?

You're saying only one guy on the planet has this talent? And the talent is that he can communicate with the dead about refrigerators?

I do think there are more people out there who can do it. I've just never been read by anyone besides JE that could.

 

[meg]

Yes Robin. Please do comment on Squeegee Beckenheim's video.

What's the difference between that and what John Edward does?

 

[Stray Cat]

No, Garrette's trick makes him look merely like a psychic. Not a medium. The difference is key.

No, the only difference is in the presentation.
As has already been pointed out, Garrette could easily do the same trick and claim he was getting the word from a dead relative.

Any competent magician can set up a routine using just a regular card trick and present it as if a dead relative is telling them what card someone had picked.

Mediums claim to communicate with dead people. if the information they communicate happens to be correct (or close enough for the gullible), then they are deemed to be "genuine". If a magician does a trick and he manages to correctly give information that the audience has no idea how he got that information, he is getting exactly the same result as a medium except he's not claiming he got the information from dead people.

Your claim to know every trick a fake medium would use is very dishonest of you. I've been doing magic for many years, I've performed with and hung out with some of the world's best and most knowledgeable magicians who would never claim to know every trick.

 

[Robin1]

So this reminds me. When John Edward published his first book, he included, in the dedication... Sylvia Browne.

I was a believer at that time. For personal reasons, it was very clear to me, at that time, that Sylvia Browne was a fake. (Later I would change my mind on this and then regret it.) See link in my sig line.

And at the time I was a big believer in JE. I thought if anyone was the real deal, it was him. I liked quite a few of them but considered him one of the best. And so I was stunned that he could be psychic AND not get that Sylvia Browne was a fake. How could you be psychic and not get something that huge? To the point that you would honor this person in the dedication of your book?

The question still stands.

Of course now that I realize he's a fake too, it's obvious how he missed it.

JE even addresses something like this in his own personal life. I'm not clear exactly but this is what I think happened. His Mom died of cancer and from what I remember she had symptoms but ignored them until it was too late. If she had gone to the doctor sooner she may have been saved. JE couldn't understand why he didn't know it, why his spirit guides didn't give him a heads up that could have saved his Mom's life. Of course I forget what he said about what he later came up with was the reason why. I know he addressed it in one of his books and I know even recently he addressed it on tv in an interview. I will try to find.

 

[Stray Cat]

JE even addresses something like this in his own personal life. I'm not clear exactly but this is what I think happened. His Mom died of cancer and from what I remember she had symptoms but ignored them until it was too late. If she had gone to the doctor sooner she may have been saved. JE couldn't understand why he didn't know it, why his spirit guides didn't give him a heads up that could have saved his Mom's life. Of course I forget what he said about what he later came up with was the reason why. I know he addressed it in one of his books and I know even recently he addressed it on tv in an interview. I will try to find.

It's because he hasn't got any spirit guides... though I doubt that would be his explanation in his money making book.

 

[ExMinister]

JE even addresses something like this in his own personal life. I'm not clear exactly but this is what I think happened. His Mom died of cancer and from what I remember she had symptoms but ignored them until it was too late. If she had gone to the doctor sooner she may have been saved. JE couldn't understand why he didn't know it, why his spirit guides didn't give him a heads up that could have saved his Mom's life. Of course I forget what he said about what he later came up with was the reason why. I know he addressed it in one of his books and I know even recently he addressed it on tv in an interview. I will try to find.

I remember reading that too years ago. Forgot what he said. Likely some variation on it was her destiny and I wasn't supposed to interfere.

Which, if so, would have nothing to do with knowing whether or not Sylvia Browne was a fake. But if you find it, post it.

Sylvia herself liked to say she couldn't be psychic for herself. But even that doesn't apply here. In what way does knowing whether or not Browne is a fake impact JE's personal life?

The reason for this is exactly the same as the reason for the other: He's not psychic. And he probably got tired of having people confront him about why, if he's psychic, he wouldn't have had a heads up about his mother.