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Is "activated hydrogen water" real or fake?

VanillaCone

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I'm trying to figure out if this company's product is legitimate, but I lack the scientific knowledge to make an informed judgment. Some of the wording on their website seems suspicious. Could someone who understands chemistry please take a look and give me your thoughts? Thank you in advance.
 
Looks like twelve shades of bollocks to me. Here's a snippet, I'll highlight the relevent red flags:

REDOX Water Systems™ differs from water purification, but rather an “Activation”. Changes the water itself. Altering it to function as nature intended. Our system runs your water through a pipe of special orbs that contain proprietary organic minerals stimulating the charges of the hydrogen atoms and bringing your water back to life. Your water is then revitalized in the same way that flowing water in nature enhances naturally, with the ability to break down organic matter, maintain a lower surface tension, absorb and hydrate more efficiently. This water activation system, is redefining the way we purify and use water as a medium. Each orb resonate a frequency, delivering a subtle electric charge to the water, activating the hydrogen atoms (electrons) and organizing water molecule clusters, raising solubility and antibacterial properties in addition to Advanced KDF and carbon filtration which purifies the water breaking down the organic compounds.
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I have highlighted the relevent nonsensical portions in a cheery yellow.

Feel free to discard the company out of hand. They're nuts.
 
Mister Earl said:
Looks like twelve shades of bollocks to me. Here's a snippet, I'll highlight the relevent red flags:



I have highlighted the relevent nonsensical portions in a cheery yellow.

Feel free to discard the company out of hand. They're nuts.
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Yeah, you say that but there are 'special orbs' involved. So there!


Seriously though, this OP sounded familiar then I remembered that they were talking about this gash on the "Skeptics With A K" episode that I was listening to at work earlier.
 
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I'm not a chemist, but I hung out with quite a few world class experts in the field for a number of years. Here is clue No 1 that this is bogus:

Our system runs your water through a pipe of special orbs that contain proprietary organic minerals stimulating the charges of the hydrogen atoms and bringing your water back to life.
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:)

Here are 15 more:

  • Reverses hard water and mineral buildup.
  • Improves water solubility by organizing water molecules reducing chemical and detergent use by 50% - 70%.
  • Uses 25 - 45% less fertilizer on your farm, vineyard or golf course.
  • Increases crop yields by 20-50%, stronger plants and raises sugar content for a sweeter taste.
  • Uses 15% less water on your farm, vineyard or golf course.
  • Balances water and soil pH improving soil conditions with activated hydrogen water.
  • Stops pipe corrosion (rust).
  • Reduces water evaporation by 35%.
  • Removes slime, mold and bacteria from cooling towers, public pools, spas, ponds and plumbing.
  • Reduces the use of antibiotics on dairy and hog farms and lowering mortality rate by more than 50%.
  • Stabilizes water temps in pools by .5 degrees reducing heating costs.
  • Significantly improves hydration, detoxification and anti-oxidation.
  • Insures longer produce freshness when installed on supermarket produce sprayers.
  • Improves skin and hair – no more skin problems
  • Revitalizes tap and RO (filtered) water for a smooth, velvety, sweet and clean taste as pure as nature intended.
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Mister Earl said:
I have highlighted the relevent nonsensical portions in a cheery yellow.

Feel free to discard the company out of hand. They're nuts.
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Thanks for taking a look at the website.

So I take it there is no such thing as hydrogen activation. I was wary, but I Googled it and there are a whole bunch of companies out there making similar claims. Some of them appear to have major clients, big companies and universities and such. Obviously, that doesn't mean it actually works...
 
Olowkow said:
I'm not a chemist, but I hung out with quite a few world class experts in the field for a number of years. Here is clue No 1 that this is bogus:

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Here are 15 more:
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What the hell, it doesn't fill out my IRS forms for me? Not buying.
 
Hey, "special orbs" are special, at least. How do you stimulate hydrogen atoms? It can't make lemons sweet..I don't want it. :)
 
It would be very educational to see a chemist take apart each of the 15 claims from a professional point of view. I could do maybe 4 or 5, but I don't have the background to be convincing in my terminology.

For example, "nor more skin problems", could involve removing all one's skin.

"Reduced evaporation" has to involve somehow reducing the vapor pressure of water. This can only be done by reducing temperature or increasing pressure. Or covering the water with oil!

Stabilizing temperature by 0.5 degrees! What does that even mean?

smooth, velvety, sweet and clean taste as pure as nature intended.
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Nonsense.
 
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The water is "revitalized?" Ummm. . . . the dictionary definitions for 'revitalize' all involve "new life," "animation," and/or "vigor."

Frankly, I would be greatly disturbed if I felt that "alive," "animated," and/or "vigorous" were apt descriptions of any water in my vicinity.
 
Sounds like bollocks to me. Or should that be "sounds like orbs"?

They've certainly taken the Big Lie path with their list of claims!
 
REDOX Water Systems™ differs from water purification, but rather an “Activation”. Changes the water itself. Altering it to function as nature intended. Our system runs your water through a pipe of special orbs that contain proprietary organic minerals stimulating the charges of the hydrogen atoms and bringing your water back to life. Your water is then revitalized in the same way that flowing water in nature enhances naturally, with the ability to break down organic matter, maintain a lower surface tension, absorb and hydrate more efficiently. This water activation system, is redefining the way we purify and use water as a medium. Each orb resonate a frequency, delivering a subtle electric charge to the water, activating the hydrogen atoms (electrons) and organizing water molecule clusters, raising solubility and antibacterial properties in addition to Advanced KDF and carbon filtration which purifies the water breaking down the organic compounds.
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They didn't use the words "energy" or "quantum." They must be noobs at this sort of thing.

Steve S
 
Olowkow said:
I'm not a chemist,
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You don't have to be. Cmon how is this silliness not blatantly obvious? It ranks right up there with "energy crystals."


VanillaCone said:
Some of them appear to have major clients, big companies and universities and such. Obviously, that doesn't mean it actually works...
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...or that they're even telling the truth.

WHAT? LYING ON THE INTERNET? UNPOSSIBLE!!

;)


Olowkow said:
How do you stimulate hydrogen atoms?
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Easy, show em porn


This reminds me of an ad running on TV lately for the "Nutri Bullet" (I think that's the name). It's just a tiny blender and sells for hundreds. There claim to greatness? It "pulverizes the food at a cellular level" making food way more nutritious! Silly me, here I thought my body did that all by itself.....
 
dasmiller said:
The water is "revitalized?" Ummm. . . . the dictionary definitions for 'revitalize' all involve "new life," "animation," and/or "vigor."

Frankly, I would be greatly disturbed if I felt that "alive," "animated," and/or "vigorous" were apt descriptions of any water in my vicinity.
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Me too. Think Ice-9. ;):):D
 
Not one but two of the grocery store chains in my area are using this company's special orb pipe or whatever for the water they use to spray their produce. That's why I even gave it the time of day. I thought maybe they had checked out the science before buying. Upon further reflection, it seems more likely that the grocery store people making the decisions simply aren't too bright.
 
Olowkow said:
It would be very educational to see a chemist take apart each of the 15 claims from a professional point of view. I could do maybe 4 or 5, but I don't have the background to be convincing in my terminology.
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From a chemist pov, the answer is, no, I can't "take apart" the 15 claims, but for a goid reason: most of it gibberish. Completely meaningless.

The phrase "it's not even wrong" comes to mind.
 
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