Merged Bigfoot follies

[William Parcher]

When the money stops flowing and bigfoot is no longer marketable, then yes, hoaxers will slack off.

The vast majority of Bigfoot hoaxes have no monetary value to the hoaxer. They don't ask for money and they don't get any for their hoax. I'm talking about the thousands of eyewitness accounts in the BFRO, Green Database, etc. etc. Those are essentially anonymous hoaxers who write short story horror/drama in the form of a Bigfoot enounter. These spooky and intriguing stories make up the foundational glue that hold all of Bigfootery together.

You can throw away the PGF and you will still have Bigfootery because of the already existing encounter database in addition to unpaid volunteers who will continue to submit bogus sighting claims numbering hundreds per year. This is all done for no money.

But you can't throw away the sighting record created by unpaid folks and then expect Bigfootery to persist. That means no more campfire stories about Bigfoot to fire up the imagination of kids and city folks. The Bigfoot campfire story is non-profit for the orator (hoaxer).

Yes, the most important of hoaxed Bigfoot evidences really hold little prospect of pocketing money for the hoaxer. They don't even ask for money. They seem to often do the hoax for sheer personal joy and the feeling of generosity. They contribute to American Culture in a recorded form. Like a monument or stone carving. You come back 30 years later and see your fake Bigfoot story still is popular with Bigfooters. You smile. That is worth a million bucks, so I guess you got paid after all.

As I said, not all sightings of any cryptid are deliberate hoaxes. Some are legitimate misidentification and until people become more familiar with what critters live in their areas, you will continue to have these sightings until the meme dies of natural causes.

Knowledge of local creatures doesn't stop this stuff. That is because cryptids are often novel additions to the local fauna. Pretend that I know every single mammal in my State with great authority and experience. Now pretend that I tell you the story of how I witnessed a Bigfoot in my State and this creature exists without any doubt. Now... why didn't my knowledge of local wildlife stop my telling of the tale?

We have people like Bindernagel and Mionczynski who absolutely should know the local fauna yet they are Bigfoot stumpthumpers. Lady, this Bigfootery thing is not going to stop.

Check out this wonderfully written article about John Mionczynski...

In 1972, while camping alone in the Wind River Mountains, the young naturalist John Mionczynski, is convinced that he encountered the creature known as Sasquatch, or "Bigfoot." Over the decades since, he's searched for further evidence of a large primate inhabiting the forests of western North America.

In the minds of many, this placed him in that scientific netherworld populated by believers in crop circles, alien invaders and Bermuda triangles. But to cast him off as a paranormal nut would be unfair to one of Wyoming's most interesting characters who in other spheres has made significant contributions to contemporary understanding of the Wyoming wilderness.

Mionczynski is self-taught, sometimes eccentric, above all insightful. Pat Hnilicka, a U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service biologist who once worked with him on big horn sheep projects, describes him as a "top-notch" scientist.

I think he serves on some Bigfoot advisory board and maybe he's going to be speaking at a Bigfoot conference. Anyway maybe he makes some money from his sighting story but the point here is that knowledge of actual already-existing wildlife won't prevent the claim of additional wildlife (the fantastic cryptid that was living there all the time). Even guys like this who are supposed to be wood smart and educated... they do this. How is Bigfootery supposed to go away when you have this going on?

There are young guys like this too who will live for another 60 years and will perpetually proclaim that Bigfoot exists until they die.

 

[trebor]

Check out the photo of the footprint they posted. The toes look fake.

Is this supposed to be a footprint?

 

[Mister Earl]

Is this supposed to be a footprint?

Looks more like a credulous magnet to me.

 

[StankApe]

I could make a better fake print than that drawing it and sculpting it in the mud, that looks like they made a plywood foot in like 10 minute with a jigsaw

 

[William Parcher]

The toes look fake.

But you can't just toss out evidence for something like that. Patty's thigh looks fake.

This can remain as Bigfoot evidence until the hoaxer confesses.

 

[tsig]

Just the toes?

Are you sure just the toes look fake?

It's squarefoot, bigfoot's less hip cousin.

 

[StankApe]

next up will be Sahara Foot, he burrows through the sand and is perfectly camouflaged

 

[River]

But you can't just toss out evidence for something like that. Patty's thigh looks fake.

This can remain as Bigfoot evidence until the hoaxer confesses.

Wrong! (Bob Heironimus what?) It can remain evidence until the stompers are found, and its demonstrated they were used to make the ugly flat footprints. Even then, some might claim the stompers were made after the prints, modeled after them. (cough cough Meldrum cough)

 

[William Parcher]

Are there even stompers for this one? It looks like a shoe print with toes you could make with your fingers.

 

[StankApe]

Are there even stompers for this one? It looks like a shoe print with toes you could make with your fingers.

I disagree a shoe print made inside a foot would have more depth at the toe and less of a uniform look than this does. this looks like someone set down a plywood cutout and mushed it down with their foot and then pried it up

 

[William Parcher]

It looks like any old shoe stomp then you press the toes and do a little smoothing.

 

[StankApe]

yeah, I guess if you planted it straight down and removed it (rather than say wearing it and walking a path in the stomper)


btw, where are the other tracks? that mud doesn't appear to be limited to that one spot.

 

[Jerrymander]

When I ask why so few papers supporting bigfoot are published in science journals the response I got is "the reviewers don't believe in bigfoot so they'll reject it."

 

[RedRatSnake]

They would believe in it if there was something to believe in, soon as good evidence comes in I am sure BF would get the attention it should deserve.

Maybe the folks on the bff should start pressing the habituators for some solid evidence, can't be hard if BF hangs around their house or yard 24/7

Tim

 

[RedRatSnake]

Here is a funny from everyone's favorite footer.

Mulder
Sasquatch
Members
5,107 posts
The Ketchum Study is what it is, and it's one more piece of evidence (frankly it's PROOF) that Skeptics refuse to engage.



Tim ~ lol

 

[Resume]

When I ask why so few papers supporting bigfoot are published in science journals the response I got is "the reviewers don't believe in bigfoot so they'll reject it."

The same dodge creationists use; non-believers are stifling and supressing believer's evidence. This is nonsense.

Evidence for the cryptid known as Bigfoot would have groundbreaking scientific significance across a number of disciplines. It would have historical significance and it would likely generate significant wealth for its discoverer.

Think of all the stupid cable channel programming concerning this cryptid for which there is no credible objective evidence, then imagine would that would be like for a creature for which concrete evidence was established.

Anyone who attempts to advance this argument is either fooling himself, or trying to fool others or perhaps both. It's ********.

 

[Resume]

Here is a funny from everyone's favorite footer.

Mulder
Sasquatch
Members
5,107 posts
The Ketchum Study is what it is, and it's one more piece of evidence (frankly it's PROOF) that Skeptics refuse to engage.



Tim ~ lol

Skeptics have indeed engaged Ketchum's (DVM) paper, it's just that this person doesn't like what they have to say about it. Or what scientists are saying about it. I'll bet what really pisses him off is that the general public is in fact ignoring it.

 

[captain koolaid]

...not all sightings of any cryptid are deliberate hoaxes. Some are legitimate misidentification and until people become more familiar with what critters live in their areas, you will continue to have these sightings until the meme dies of natural causes...

I concur with pretty much everything Parcher posted above in #1201. On this particular quote, I have to add to WP's point about the naturalist/footer. I don't think familiarity with local wildlife will make much difference, overall. It may, with some, but, not nearly enough to starve Bigfoot. A lot of these people will see Bigfoot even if they know the local critters. As long as the "encounter" is fleeting or obscured enough, it will be Bigfoot. It would require a moose, in an open field, on a sunny day, standing next to a sign that read- "A moose", for them not to call it Bigfoot. Even then, they still might describe it as a squatchy encounter. Yep, definitely a squatch. A "misidentification" is just a good excuse to spin a yarn. A lie made up from scratch lacks a certain oomph.

 

[RedRatSnake]

They sure have and that's what makes this funny to me, this guy just shoots off and the footers listen, trouble is he is one of their biggest problems cause he wants everyone to see it his way, and we all know it's wrong, science has indeed looked at this DNA and rejected it, why ? cause it is back door science and does not belong in any journal with legitimate hard earned scientific discovery's, the sooner they kick this guy out the better off they will be. IMHO

Tim

 

[Jodie]

next up will be Sahara Foot, he burrows through the sand and is perfectly camouflaged

No, the mongolian death worm, or the saharan version, would eat him.