Stress?

dlorde said:
That makes no sense at all; do you have any plausible evidence or mechanism for relaxation leading to lazy/weak/idle immune systems, or obesity as a result of poor immune response? we already have plenty of evidence that chronic lack of exercise can lead to obesity through simple caloric accumulation (calories in > calories out).
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I am not claiming but researching. There should be both sides of a coin.
 
Dancing David said:
Yup, not an actual site from a research journal and some abuse of the language. A defense property in NOT an immune response, so you can't cite research, why am I not suprised?

Where are the research journals Kumar.

Innate defense in not the same as 'immune response', you have no excuse.

Mucus trapping pieces of containment is not an immune response. zero for you. But you abusing teh language is nothing new, you do it on purpose.
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I am not claiming but just trying to see both sides of a coin as I could not find elsewhere. Moreover we we just want to follow blindly makeing base of yet half cooked things? Are people here not skeptical?
 
Dancing David said:
Stop abusing language Kumar, not getting out of bed for weeks is not chronic relaxation.

You made up that term and it is crap. Stop pretending, you know where you want to go with this.
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Just correct me. I shall use right word. Just other side of stress?
 
Kumar, on the subject of stress may I recommend reading some of the publications of Hans Selye? He was an Endocrinologist, and a pioneer in the field of stress research.
 
Kumar said:
I am not claiming but researching. There should be both sides of a coin.
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Hilite by DaylightstarYour particular interpretation of your jain religion is of no benefit to any one.

So you claim to do research. To what end?
Kumar what's the benefit of you asking random, ill expressed 'questions'?

'Questions' of which you reject the answers and responses based on your jain religion?
 
Kumar said:
Why we take equanimity or taking things on both sides as idiotic? Are we not one way in this sense? When odd stress can cause odds why not odd relaxing can cause odds?
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Kumar, the 'equanimity' from your jain religion, is executed by you as flagrant indifference to the replies you get.
You flatly reject them and insert principles from your religion.
 
Kumar said:
I am not claiming but just trying to see both sides of a coin as I could not find elsewhere. Moreover we we just want to follow blindly makeing base of yet half cooked things? Are people here not skeptical?
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Yes Kumar, you do. You make jain religion based claims. You mostly push your own thoughts and approach, while stepping on your jain religion at the same time.

Kumar said:
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To be Anekäntvädi: 1) Do not insist on your own approach, 2) ...
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Not to mention his finding the Jainist dietetic precepts inconvenient.

Kumar said:
But can obesity(if caused by chronic Sed. lifestyle) weaken immune system?
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Do you really think obesity is caused by anything other than overeating as regards the body's energy needs?
 
Work on stressHis last inspiration for general adaptation syndrome (GAS, a theory of stress) came from an endocrinological experiment in which he injected mice with extracts of various organs. He at first believed he had discovered a new hormone, but was proved wrong when every irritating substance he injected produced the same symptoms (swelling of the adrenal cortex, atrophy of the thymus, gastric and duodenal ulcers). This, paired with his observation that people with different diseases exhibit similar symptoms, led to his description of the effects of "noxious agents" as he at first called it. He later coined the term "stress", which has been accepted into the lexicon of various other languages..
Selye discovered and documented that stress differs from other physical responses in that stress is stressful whether one receives good or bad news, whether the impulse is positive or negative. He called negative stress "distress" and positive stress "eustress".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Selye
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Astreja,

I liked above snips from your link. But I think more advanced understandings have been researched now. One can be stress related to immunity and chronic stress related to compromising of immunity. Moreover I am also looking impact of acute & chronic resting/relaxing i.e. opposite to stress. Vascular & muscular tones can be relevant.
 
Kumar said:
But can obesity(if caused by chronic Sed. lifestyle) weaken immune system?
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There is some evidence that obesity correlates with a weakened immune system, as it does with a wide variety of illnesses.

And seriously, the idea that lack of exercise is a bad thing leading to negative consequences for health is entirely uncontroversial, and is part of the "modern medical system" that you so resent. Any competent doctor will advise you to take exercise.
 
Mojo said:
There is some evidence that obesity correlates with a weakened immune system, as it does with a wide variety of illnesses.
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Means, chronic rest if causes obesity ann also be a responsible factor for weakened immune system?

And seriously, the idea that lack of exercise is a bad thing leading to negative consequences for health is entirely uncontroversial, and is part of the "modern medical system" that you so resent. Any competent doctor will advise you to take exercise.
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Yes it is commonly known thing. I am just trying to better understand good & bad rest and impact from chronic rest.
 
Daylightstar said:
Yes Kumar, you do. You make jain religion based claims. You mostly push your own thoughts and approach, while stepping on your jain religion at the same time.
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Whatever. Religion may not be important but its tellings/teachings/true meanings can be important here.
 
Kumar said:
I am not claiming but researching. There should be both sides of a coin.
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No, you're not researching. Researching isn't throwing out random speculations, it's making and testing plausible hypotheses for verified observations, based on existing knowledge. Once you have observed that obese people have poor immune response and/or that 'chronically relaxed' people have poor immune response, and/or that chronically relaxed people are obese, then you can formulate hypotheses to explain those observations. Observation comes first.
 
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Kumar said:
Means, chronic rest if causes obesity ann also be a responsible factor for weakened immune system?



Yes it is commonly known thing. I am just trying to better understand good & bad rest and impact from chronic rest.
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What is chronic rest?
 
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