Merged No Planer calls for scientific study / Missiles of 9/11

[LSSBB]

BSCE and MSCE Purdue University
Licensed Professional Engineer (PE)
Licensed Structural Engineer(SE)

Academic All-Big Ten Offensive Tackle at Purdue
Drafted by the Minnesota Vikings in 1976

That should be enough information to figure out my real name...

A Boilermaker, are you? I had 4 brothers go there.

I was a blacksheep. Got my two undergrads (Physics and Astrophysics) at Minnesota, MS in Mechanical Engineering at Northwestern. Kept it Big Ten though.

 

[beachnut]

Don't pay attention to sports - couldn't care less.

The same with physics, and the truth. The same with those killed on 911, as you make up fantasy. If you understood sports, you might have a better chance with physics.

 

[beachnut]

I've already said the projects figures will be avaialble to all when they're ready. My project has just begun, so you'll need to be patient, but the experts have had more than a decade to crunch their numbers. Pity you don't know where they are.

Here's MIT's math, is that what you're looking for?
http://web.mit.edu/civenv/wtc/PDFfiles/Chapter%20IV%20Aircraft%20Impact.pdf

MIT says a jet does enter the WTC. You forgot to read your source, you don't understand.

Tomasz Wierzbicki
Professor of Applied Mechanics, MIT
Liang Xue
Ph.D. Candidate of Ocean Engineering, MIT
Meg Hendry-Brogan​

Undergraduate student of Ocean Engineering, MIT

Three Engineers, debunk you. You have source, you use math which exposes your claim as a fantasy.

Add me, that is four engineers, add a few more, and you are falling behind the more you post.

from the source which debunks your crazy fantasy.

It was estimated that loss of kinetic energy to plow the airframe through
the model structure was 1221MJ floor E = for North Tower and 1040MJ floor E = for the South Tower. ​

Flight 175 had 4,380MJ, and Flight 11 2,740MJ. Means both planes entered the WTC.​

The design for aicraft impact done by Robertson for the WTC, 386MJ, not enough to do much damage, 7 and 11 times less energy than 911 impacts. ​

7 to 11 times less energy is significant. ​

Your source again...

It is estimated that 7 to 20 core columns were destroyed or severely bent in the South Tower while only 4 to 12 core columns were ruptured in the North Tower.

http://web.mit.edu/civenv/wtc/PDFfiles/Chapter IV Aircraft Impact.pdf
It only takes a grade school education to see your source debunks you.​

 

[Clayton Moore]

MIT says a jet does enter the WTC. You forgot to read your source, you don't understand.

Tomasz Wierzbicki​

Professor of Applied Mechanics, MIT​

Liang Xue​

Ph.D. Candidate of Ocean Engineering, MIT​

Meg Hendry-Brogan​

Undergraduate student of Ocean Engineering, MIT

Three Engineers, debunk you. You have source, you use math which exposes your claim as a fantasy.

Add me, that is four engineers, add a few more, and you are falling behind the more you post.

Let me guess. Their visas were expiring and student loans were looming.

Any Americans to add to your short list?

 

[LSSBB]

Let me guess. Their visas were expiring and student loans were looming.

Any Americans to add to your short list?

So are you saying no one on that list of three is American?

 

[beachnut]

Let me guess. Their visas were expiring and student loans were looming.

Any Americans to add to your short list?

Your racism is showing. How NAZI like. You are such a great ally for 451, a super team using fantasy physics.


What?
Professor of Applied Mechanics, MIT. He is an engineer. What are you? Student Visa? lol, do you do any practical research before exposing your racism first?
LOL, Liang Xue, Ph.D. Department of Mechanical Engineering, Northwestern.Do you have a PhD in engineering? Another engineer. Are you an engineer, or limited to failed ideas on 911 due to ignorance and hate?

 

[dafydd]

Let me guess. Their visas were expiring and student loans were looming.

Any Americans to add to your short list?

Isn't Moore an Irish name?

 

[beachnut]

From the mouth of babes.

You are no engineer or pilot.

Love your math source; it says an aircraft can enter the WTC.
http://web.mit.edu/civenv/wtc/PDFfiles/Chapter%20IV%20Aircraft%20Impact.pdf
Did you read the study?

It is estimated that 7 to 20 core columns were destroyed or severely bent in
the South Tower while only 4 to 12 core columns were ruptured in the North Tower.

How did parts of the aircraft make it to the core? RIF

You were banned at 911 truth web sites? lol, your fantasy did not match their fantasy? LOL, they believe in no planes, but you want to test a plane to see if it can break into the WTC? You post proof an aircraft can, with a paper from MIT. You must of missed NIST's work, Robertson's work, and Purdue. http://web.mit.edu/civenv/wtc/PDFfiles/Chapter IV Aircraft Impact.pdf Your MIT paper is good enough. You can skip the test, the paper you provided from MIT answers your question.

 

[twinstead]

God false bravado can be SO annoying

 

[tsig]

Indicating your confusion with material densities and basic physics.

To sum up - all you plane-huggers don't have a leg to stand on. You cry about math and physics but can't produce anything to support your beliefs, whereas I am prepared to put my money and reputation on the line to publish the math and physics, as well as an empirical test to support mine.

Nothing from nothing leaves nothing.

 

[LSSBB]

Runaway, runaway [/Monty Python and the Holy Grail]

So what does "towel snappers" mean in your lexicon?

Fitz

He never did explain this.

My theory involves him being picked on in gym by a bunch of critical thinking thugs.

ETA: We may be called wedgie-pullers next.

 

[332nd]

So...

What exactly is stopping this guy from carrying out his experiment?

 

[fitzgibbon]

So...

What exactly is stopping this guy from carrying out his experiment?

Money, inclination and expertise. Aside from that? Nothing

Fitz

 

[Mudcat]

seems like the same towel-snappers.

I know I'm not the only one wondering... What are you talking about?

Let me guess. Their visas were expiring and student loans were looming.

Any Americans to add to your short list?

And your evidence that none of the names presented are Americans is... What?

So...

What exactly is stopping this guy from carrying out his experiment?

Considering he would need some very specific licenses and permits to run such a test in most states, hundreds of thousands of dollars, specialized and hard to obtain gear, and enough math to give a rocket scientist pause... A lot.

 

[Ape of Good Hope]

ETA: We may be called wedgie-pullers next.

Purple nurples, anyone?


(Ironically, two pages later he gets purple-nurpled by a Let's Roll forum admin)

 

[Pinch]

My God. We have a new level of utter stupidity entering into the fray. I left this last night when, understandably, it looked like a Balsamo sock due to the level of proudly proclaims ignorance. It definitely isn't Balsamo, but they could be intellectual twins.

Even today, the ignorance of what an airliner is made of and the relationship between it and a relatively thin latticework of steel boxes and spandrels that made up the outer walls of the WTC is still something that is too difficult for the weaker minds amongst us to understand. This rocket surgeon needs to go stand next to a 757 to begin his own education on how much energy an aircraft like that has at 500 mph.

 

[DGM]

So...

What exactly is stopping this guy from carrying out his experiment?

The evil "towel snapping" JREF ninjas.

Please try to keep up.

 

[fess]

A wing is a hollow aluminum gas tank with a leading edge as sharp as a basketball, it is not a sword. All your gyrations are meaningless - you won't convince me to stop the test. The only thing that might is the engineering model which I will publish when it's complete.

My apologies if someone has already addressed this, but I had to go to work and didn’t expect this tread to be 5 pages longer when I got home.

So Yankee, during you self taught education, did you ever study any aeronautical engineering? Reading your post, I would definitely say no. There is a lot more to an aircraft wing than just fuel tanks, is there not?

And in case you didn’t study aeronautics, there is a big difference between aviation grade aluminum and your coffee pot on the counter.

Not to mention the fact that; the wing did not “slice” through anything.

I will agree with others, you education in these matters is quite lacking.

 

[Mudcat]

So Yankee, during you self taught education, did you ever study any aeronautical engineering? Reading your post, I would definitely say no. There is a lot more to an aircraft wing than just fuel tanks, is there not?

Ailerons, bell cranks, lighting, de-icing boots, various instruments to monitor conditions, the engine pylon mount, elevators, air brakes, et cetera.

But don't take my word on that, I'm just an aircraft mechanic student.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Yankee451
If the aircraft didn't crash what happened to them? Where are they now?
Where are the passengers and crew?