Merged No Planer calls for scientific study / Missiles of 9/11

[yankee451]

Look at the leading edge from the side. Then reconsider your statement here.

Spread your bullet's mass out 160 feet and reconsider yours. It's an absurd analogy.

A better one is a spear - throw a spear at a tree and it'll impale the tree, but throw the spear sideways and it'll bounce off or break in half. Same mass, same energy, much different result, all because the mass and energy isn't focused on a small point of impact.

9/11 was like the spear cutting down a forest of trees.

 

[Justin39640]

They'd been successfully testing them for two years prior to the December date when they began producing for their contract. They were of course operational at the time the contract was approved in January.

And no one noticed two test models were missing. Again, your ideas are "flawed". What warheads caused the massive jet fuel fireball that was witnessed?

 

[Justin39640]

Spread your bullet's mass out 160 feet and reconsider yours. It's an absurd analogy.

Um, spread a grams worth of lead 160 ft???? Yeah it's gonna be flimsy. A wing is a few tons plus all the fuell in it. More than enough energy to penetrate. This is high school physics you're failing.

A better one is a spear - throw a spear at a tree and it'll impale the tree, but throw the spear sideways and it'll bounce off or break in half. Same mass, same energy, much different result, all because the mass and energy isn't focused on a small point of impact.

Next you're gonna tell me a samurai sword cant cut a tree cause its leading edge is spread out.

9/11 was like the spear cutting down a forest of trees.

What???

 

[yankee451]

It didn't need maximum penetration, just enough to enter the building(s). Also, for someone who says others don't know physics, you have yet to post any math.

I've already said the projects figures will be avaialble to all when they're ready. My project has just begun, so you'll need to be patient, but the experts have had more than a decade to crunch their numbers. Pity you don't know where they are.

Here's MIT's math, is that what you're looking for?

http://yankee451.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Chapter-IV-Aircraft-Impact.pdf

 

[yankee451]

And no one noticed two test models were missing. Again, your ideas are "flawed". What warheads caused the massive jet fuel fireball that was witnessed?

When all else fails "someone would talk"; yeah. Heard it.

 

[TheRedWorm]

I've already said the projects figures will be avaialble to all when they're ready. My project has just begun, so you'll need to be patient, but the experts have had more than a decade to crunch their numbers. Pity you don't know where they are.

Here's MIT's math, is that what you're looking for?

http://yankee451.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Chapter-IV-Aircraft-Impact.pdf

I'm looking for your math. If you can't do it, just say so, and I'll stop asking.

 

[beachnut]

Spread your bullet's mass out 160 feet and reconsider yours. It's an absurd analogy.

A better one is a spear - throw a spear at a tree and it'll impale the tree, but throw the spear sideways and it'll bounce off or break in half. Same mass, same energy, much different result, all because the mass and energy isn't focused on a small point of impact.

9/11 was like the spear cutting down a forest of trees.

Go ahead throw the spear sideways at 600 mph, it will be amazing. You have zero physics in your fantasy.

LOL.

Your bullet's mass has 60,000 pound of jet fuel in the wings? lol

Your bullet weighs 277,580 pounds? lol

Your don't do physics.

When will you do the math? Hard Knocks U. zero, reality 1,000. Your failure is undefined.

When all else fails "someone would talk"; yeah. Heard it.

You missed Watergate too?

 

[yankee451]

Um, spread a grams worth of lead 160 ft???? Yeah it's gonna be flimsy. A wing is a few tons plus all the fuell in it. More than enough energy to penetrate. This is high school physics you're failing.



Next you're gonna tell me a samurai sword cant cut a tree cause its leading edge is spread out.


What???

A wing is a hollow aluminum gas tank with a leading edge as sharp as a basketball, it is not a sword. All your gyrations are meaningless - you won't convince me to stop the test. The only thing that might is the engineering model which I will publish when it's complete.

 

[Justin39640]

When all else fails "someone would talk"; yeah. Heard it.

That was a two part question. What warheads?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWJX9yUKJeQ#t=18s

 

[TheRedWorm]

And now it's 600 MPH.

Well, it's been fun coming to Romper Room. Time for more serious things - I'll pay you fellas a visit in a bit. Try not to hurt yourselves when I'm away, okay?

Will you be showing us your math when you return?

 

[Justin39640]

A wing is a hollow aluminum gas tank with a leading edge as sharp as a basketball, it is not a sword. All your gyrations are meaningless - you won't convince me to stop the test. The only thing that might is the engineering model which I will publish when it's complete.

It's hardly hollow. The structure, hydraulics, motors, linkages, etc all have mass and strength. The fuel alone had enough (impact) energy to cut the steel.

 

[beachnut]

A wing is a hollow aluminum gas tank with a leading edge as sharp as a basketball, it is not a sword. All your gyrations are meaningless - you won't convince me to stop the test. The only thing that might is the engineering model which I will publish when it's complete.

An engineering model is math, you don't do math; you will not publish a model, it takes math. You have the math now, or you don't. You don't. Did Hard Knocks U. not teach math and physics? What did they teach?

You are funny. Test guys are now in on 911, stealing two cruise missiles, loading them with DNA, and all the parts of a 757. Totally impossible, but you say it happened. That is called fantasy.


Oh noes, rounding is not allowed, it is math. 911 truth don't do math. Sorry I rounded your silly spear analogy to 600 mph. But you have no idea how fast the planes were going anyway, you thing they planes were fake.


Guess you can't come up with the speed. I will tell you now, 600 mph is close enough to 590 mph to be comparable.

LOL it is math, called rounding. As I recall, you don't do math, so you have no idea how to round numbers.
Go ahead make fun of the speed, it is the only math you can do. We can say anything, you don't have a clue what happened on 911, you make up fantasy and call everyone a liar who say were in on it. The military, liars, the media, liars, USAF Test did 911, and must be liars too. What happen with 77? Are all the eyewitnesses fake?

What speeds are you using for your test? lol

 

[Justin39640]

And now it's 600 MPH.

Well, it's been fun coming to Romper Room. Time for more serious things - I'll pay you fellas a visit in a bit. Try not to hurt yourselves when I'm away, okay?

Have fun storming the castle!

 

[UTLonghorn]

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This really explains it all, doesn't it?

 

[Justin39640]

This really explains it all, doesn't it?

I'd say so. Why even post if that's the attitude? (his)

If he was sincere about wanting to know the truth, he would have done the study and released the results. He just wants attention.

 

[Reactor drone]

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So two pre production JASSMs to simulate a 757 crash, that's one expensive hole in the ground. Still, I suppose they've got that 757 that they can sell once they've filed off the serial number

 

[tsig]

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[fitzgibbon]

Because I am working alone I am limited to my own free time and money to move the project to the fundraising phase. I hope to have the engineering plans up on the website by June.

Have you approached Dick Gage for funding? Surely he'd be happy to part with a few of his hard-earned dollars to fund a project so in-line with his assertions as yours would seem to be. Otherwise, the less-charitable part of my nature would think you're just giving yourself an out when the funding/support fails as miserably as everything else 9/11-wooish

Fitz

 

[fitzgibbon]

At this web site we have nonsense.

http://911crashtest.org/

all images and videos which depict a 9/11 plane crash have since been exposed as having been tampered-with, meaning the media were a critical part of the operation.

Wow! They turned everything around in real time, eh? Well, since you seem loathe to do the maths involved in this undertaking why don't you start with something easy like how the planes were created and then inserted into live video feeds?

Start with what software would've been used to create the planes. Then move on what tape format most likely would've been used. Then detail exactly how the planes were simultaneously inserted into the feeds of multiple national US broadcasters (and regionals too). You'll need to be very specific here as I've worked in broadcast television variously as a cameraman, TD and editor and am thus in a position to shoot-down BS.

But don't forget: the gear must've been available in 2001 (if not earlier)

I await your detailed reply

Fitz

 

[fitzgibbon]

You do realize that when that wing (if the test is set up correctly) slices the column, you'd be labeled a shill by the same morons who support your retarded ideas now?

U kddng? You seriously think he's thought this out that far in advance? I mean the tapdancing and backpedalling will be a delight to watch but I don't think for a second that he's included that in his thought processes

Fitz