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Let's try another scripture. This is from D&C Official Declaration 1, spoken by Wilford Woodruff, the prophet at the time:
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Let's try another scripture. This is from D&C Official Declaration 1, spoken by Wilford Woodruff, the prophet at the time:
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Akhenaten
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Already posted.
I think you're mistakenly taking 'credible' to mean 'what's acceptible to skyrider44' rather than what everyone else here understands it to mean.
Craig4
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What is not credible about the first hand account of the self described Mormon apostate who left the church disgusted in the sexual behavior of the leaders? Is it simply that you don't like her account?
As for Smith's pedophilia,
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1999880/posts
Here's an account from girl who had been sealed to Smith and coerced into servicing him sexually.
Nice prophet you got there.
SezMe
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Do you consider freerepublic a credible source?
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Agreed. And what a seductive bit of rhetoric it is that states, "trust us we speak for god and we would not lead you astray" (well, excluding Brigham Young of course). I'm sorry but BS and **** you. It's a rhetorical trick.
Bob: Hey Tim, I'm selling the Brooklyn Bridge. Would you be interested in buying it?
Tim: What evidence is there that you own the Brooklyn Bridge?
Bog: Trust me I would never, ever, lead you astray.
Why is it that gods plan of salvation sounds like a confidence scheme? The parsimonious answer is that it is.
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Not so.
The first missionaries from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to the Islands of the Pacific were sent by the Prophet Joseph Smith in 1843. Since then innumerable worthy LDS males of Polynesian descent have received the LDS Priesthood.
Polynesians descend from Lehi and are of the House of Israel. Alma 63:8 of the Book of Mormon refers to their ancestors.
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RandFan
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How sad indoctrination.
Craig4
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It's actually just one of many places that posts the first hand accounts of women abused by Smith. In this case it's just reprinting primary sources. There are no shortages of places to find these accounts though.
Craig4
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Your beliefs are demonstrably incorrect and based on the claims of perverts and liars. Why not just get rid of them?
Pixel42
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Some people have so little going for them that they have to manufacture a way to feel special by imagining that they have insights that their intellectual and moral superiors don't. The more the risible nature of these "insights" are pointed out the better they get to feel about their steadfastness in holding on to them in the face of this "persecution".
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skyrider44, oddly enough tithing is wide-spread and forms part of the 'prosperity' message advocated by hugely popular preachers.
"Oral Roberts began teaching prosperity theology in 1947.[12] He explained the laws of faith as a "blessing pact" in which God would return donations "seven fold",[22] promising that donors would receive back from unexpected sources the money they donated to him. Roberts offered to return any donation that did not lead to an equivalent unexpected payment.[12] In the 1970s, Roberts characterized his blessing pact teaching as the "seed faith" doctrine: donations were a form of "seed" which would grow in value and be returned to the donor.[22][23] Roberts began recruiting "partners", wealthy donors who received exclusive conference invitations and ministry access in exchange for support.[24]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosperity_theology
Janadele, would palming off a scam as a legitimate translation of Egyptian hieroglyphs take one down the slippery slope?
We all know this is what Smith did with the Book of Abraham.
The lie is clear and public.
Why put your faith in a scam?
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Why do you keep editing your posts long after others have already quoted them? You realize we can all see that, right?
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The Pearl of Great Price, which includes the writings of Abraham, is my favourite Scripture
And this post is relevant to the discussion because...???
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Akhenaten
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That's the same book that refers to steel, barley and horses in the pre-European Americas, is it?
Akhenaten
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The Pearl of Great Price, which includes the writings of Abraham, is my favourite Scripture
Could you please provide a link to other Egyptian documents which have been translated using Joseph Smith's "dictionary".
Failing that, a link to an endorsement of the dictionary as a legitimate tool by any qualified Egyptologist will suffice.
Akhenaten
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That your replies are singularly unresponsive is the main reason people are unsure of what your posts are intending to convey and to whom it is meant to be conveyed. Obviously.
Craig4
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The Pearl of Great Price, which includes the writings of Abraham, is my favourite Scripture
That's some interesting insight. Your favorite scripture is the one that has been positively identified as a complete fraud. Why do you think it's your favorite? I have my ideas but I'd like to read yours.
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