John Edward - psychic or what?

[jadebox]

Which , of course, would then mean that your mailing was a "sign" to confirm a little bit of support being offered to you...from beyond ; )

Ironically, the quote was the "Sometimes you just gotta say ...." one from Risky Business.

It's ironic because, due to some sort of cosmic convergence, or just a coincidence, you've made me realize that the thing you "gotta" say can have a meaning other than the one intended in the film.

Sometimes you just gotta say ... ... ?????



Edit: I just submitted the longer version of my coincidence story to The Odds Must Be Crazy. It's actually a run-on coincidence, a coincidence of coincidences (of which I see no need to attribute to anything but random chance). I'll let you know if it's posted.

-- Roger

 

[Robin1]

Something spooky and paranormal, no doubt. A guy reserves a library book and and then gets a message saying that the book is available. Amazing, that can't be just a coincidence. Such a thing has never happened before. I've reserved many books from libraries over the years and never received a card telling me that the book was available. This is definitely a case of influences from beyond the grave.

dayfdd, since that is not what happened at all, I'm guessing you are just trying to be funny.

 

[dafydd]

dayfdd, since that is not what happened at all, I'm guessing you are just trying to be funny.

I was just joining in the comic tone of the thread. Got any more amazing stories?

 

[Robin1]

Just to throw it out there - my story of God and pizza on The Odds Must Be Crazy.

http://www.theoddsmustbecrazy.com/2012/06/19/god-pizza-in-vermont/

Remie, very cool story. Of course I see it that God (or a deceased loved one of Jeff's) saw the opportunity to reach out to him (albeit with a pizza and card) and impressed the idea on your friend to get the perfect card that could deliver an important message to Jeff (if and that is a big if, he were truly open to it). Or you could be lying (I don't think so). Or the whole thing is just a coincidence. : ) Maybe you were impressed with the whole idea of the joke to begin with in order to get the ball rolling. Maybe the idea to say the quote about God and pizza on his doorstep was impressed on Jeff to begin with? Maybe all of you had a spirit impressing ideas on you for the ultimate cosmic joke! Funnily enough, again involving a calorie laden food! Maybe someone on the other side also wanted you to be involved in the whole thing to give you a sign as well? My vote, of course, is definitely not with it being a coincidence : )

 

[Robin1]

Remie, very cool story. Of course I see it that God (or a deceased loved one of Jeff's) saw the opportunity to reach out to him (albeit with a pizza and card) and impressed the idea on your friend to get the perfect card that could deliver an important message to Jeff (if and that is a big if, he were truly open to it). Or you could be lying (I don't think so). Or the whole thing is just a coincidence. : ) Maybe you were impressed with the whole idea of the joke to begin with in order to get the ball rolling. Maybe the idea to say the quote about God and pizza on his doorstep was impressed on Jeff to begin with? Maybe all of you had a spirit impressing ideas on you for the ultimate cosmic joke! Funnily enough, again involving a calorie laden food! Maybe someone on the other side also wanted you to be involved in the whole thing to give you a sign as well? My vote, of course, is definitely not with it being a coincidence : )

Oops , again I forgot one...maybe you are not remembering it correctly. : )

 

[kerikiwi]

Resume, What it means depends on how you look at it. Here are possible explanations:
1) a patron at the library ( I verified request originated at that particular library where we never worked or lived) with a similar last name as my Dad wanted that book but forgot his library card. Asked the clerk to look up his name on computer...clerk got the name in an alphabetical list and patron's name was close to my Dad's on the list (diff't libraries linked with patron names) And by mistake (my Dad impressed thought) the clerk linked the other patron's reserve for the Palin book to my Dad's record.
2) Someone trying to play a cruel joke on us who knew either my Mother or me (but we can't think of anyone) worked in that library and we didn't know it and put the reserve in
under my Dad's name. Or that person knew someone who worked in that library and asked them to do it.
3) Someone who knew my Mom or me and was trying to be "helpful" in giving us a sign from my Dad worked in that library and put the reserve in under my dad's name. But we don't know anyone who worked there. So in that case it would have to be someone we knew who liked us and was trying to "help" who knew someone who worked in that libray and asked them to do it.
The 3rd situation is similar to Remie's possible explanation of the reading in Las Vegas where the man's wife (who was not with him if I remember correctly and so had to call) gave John Edward information about her husband to impress him. In that case she would also have to send John a picture of her husband so John could attempt to spot him in the crowd and so know where the reading should be directed. Although , I find that kind of thinking more convoluted than Remie thinks mine is : )
Anyway, I already know which option you all will think it is. Just sharing the story.

4) It never happened.

 

[jadebox]

Looking back at the posts I've made, I don't think I explained things quite as well as I meant to.

Receiving a letter from an actor was an extraordinary event for me, of course. It was in reply to an ad I had placed in a magazine. But, it was still something unexpected. It was not, however, something so amazing that I'd attribute it to magical influences.

The coincidence of having just heard a co-worker quote that actor's famous movie line seems, at first, to be remarkable. But, the point I was trying to make is that it's a connection that I created in my mind. If my friend hadn't quoted that line, I might have recalled seeing the actor on TV the night before or something else like that. The coincidence, therefore, is as much a product of my mind as well as random chance.

That's the point I was trying to make, but somehow avoided explaining.

We often create coincidences by making connections - real or imagined - in our minds. There is nothing extraordinary about a "Pick 3" lotto drawing of the numbers "911," for example. Those three numbers are as likely as any others to be picked. But, many would assign special meaning to that series of numbers and, if they were drawn on September 11, for example, declare that either it was some extraordinary coincidence or a magical occurrence when, in fact, there would be nothing significant about it.

Another element of these kinds of stories is that they often get better each time they are told. We don't always remember things exactly as they happened.

For example, for many years my wife has told the story of how she somehow sensed that her sister-in-law was going into labor early. My wife rushed to be with her, arriving just as the baby was born. The story was told in a more entertaining way, but that's the gist of it. Not long ago, my wife told the story in front of her sister-in-law who replied that she had not gone into labor early and that my wife had known when the baby was due.

I don't think my wife was lying or intentionally embellishing the story. That was just the way she recalled it and each re-telling of the story reinforced it in her mind. It's a part of the way our brains work. That's why we have to be very careful not to fool ourselves. (Of course, this doesn't apply to the story I told, because I know exactly what happened!)

-- Roger

 

[kerikiwi]

...So , yes , liars are out there. Beware.
But I am not one of them.

And a liar would never, ever say that, so it must be true

 

[dafydd]

''The story grew with the telling''-Tolkien.

 

[Robin1]

Oops , again I forgot one...maybe you are not remembering it correctly. : )

Remie, and just for yucks...remember, I mentioned a dream I had about a friend involving something insignificant i couldn't have known and my friend couldn't believe I knew it? When I asked my Dad how I knew that, he told me in a dream that spirits can impress thoughts on people (free will remains). Then the Bic Mac, and pina colada to prove what he told me. Well the something insignificant about my friend involved (long story and detailed) a Subway sandwich!! And now your pizza ! Yup, more food. : )

 

[dafydd]

Remie, and just for yucks...remember, I mentioned a dream I had about a friend involving something insignificant i couldn't have known and my friend couldn't believe I knew it? When I asked my Dad how I knew that, he told me in a dream that spirits can impress thoughts on people (free will remains). Then the Bic Mac, and pina colada to prove what he told me. Well the something insignificant about my friend involved (long story and detailed) a Subway sandwich!! And now your pizza ! Yup, more food. : )

This is getting farcical. Time to put this thread out of its misery.

 

[Robin1]

Looking back at the posts I've made, I don't think I explained things quite as well as I meant to.

Receiving a letter from an actor was an extraordinary event for me, of course. It was in reply to an ad I had placed in a magazine. But, it was still something unexpected. It was not, however, something so amazing that I'd attribute it to magical influences.

The coincidence of having just heard a co-worker quote that actor's famous movie line seems, at first, to be remarkable. But, the point I was trying to make is that it's a connection that I created in my mind. If my friend hadn't quoted that line, I might have recalled seeing the actor on TV the night before or something else like that. The coincidence, therefore, is as much a product of my mind as well as random chance.

That's the point I was trying to make, but somehow avoided explaining.

We often create coincidences by making connections - real or imagined - in our minds. There is nothing extraordinary about a "Pick 3" lotto drawing of the numbers "911," for example. Those three numbers are as likely as any others to be picked. But, many would assign special meaning to that series of numbers and, if they were drawn on September 11, for example, declare that either it was some extraordinary coincidence or a magical occurrence when, in fact, there would be nothing significant about it.

Another element of these kinds of stories is that they often get better each time they are told. We don't always remember things exactly as they happened.

For example, for many years my wife has told the story of how she somehow sensed that her sister-in-law was going into labor early. My wife rushed to be with her, arriving just as the baby was born. The story was told in a more entertaining way, but that's the gist of it. Not long ago, my wife told the story in front of her sister-in-law who replied that she had not gone into labor early and that my wife had known when the baby was due.

I don't think my wife was lying or intentionally embellishing the story. That was just the way she recalled it and each re-telling of the story reinforced it in her mind. It's a part of the way our brains work. That's why we have to be very careful not to fool ourselves. (Of course, this doesn't apply to the story I told, because I know exactly what happened!)

-- Roger

Roger, if you merely saw the actor on tv the night before then i would say the whole thing was just a coincidence. If you had heard the quote a month ago it was just a coincidence. If getting things from actors in the mail is not that unusual it was just a coincidence.If you often hear that quote it was just a coincidence. If the quote really couldn't apply to your life around that time then it was just a coincidence..I could go on but in short..Your story is more unique/special than that considered as a whole. Unless of course you are remembering it incorrectly : ) Or lying : )

 

[dafydd]

What is the point of this thread, apart from innocent amusement?

 

[Robin1]

And a liar would never, ever say that, so it must be true

kerikiwi and some others, so if you ever come across an anecdote that you simply cannot explain away in your own mind with your myriad of theories including coincidence, memory fail... then instead of believing there may be things out there that you never thought possible...you choose to believe the person is lying? Obviously I can't change that, but it is sad. And definitely closed-minded.

 

[jadebox]

Your story is more unique/special than that considered as a whole.

No, it's just an interesting story.

A bigger point is that there's no need to invoke "spirits" to explain these kinds of stories when much there are much more likely (and mundane) explanations for why they happen and why we find them interesting.

Actually ... I shouldn't have said "mundane" because, I think, observing and trying to understand why things actually happen and how we perceive them is much more interesting than just attributing things to an ill-formed concept like "spirits."

-- Roger

 

[jadebox]

kerikiwi and some others, so if you ever come across an anecdote that you simply cannot explain away in your own mind with your myriad of theories including coincidence, memory fail... then instead of believing there may be things out there that you never thought possible...you choose to believe the person is lying? Obviously I can't change that, but it is sad. And definitely closed-minded.

There are a lot of things I can't explain. I don't necessarily assume that anyone is lying or misremembering. That would be silly. Deciding that magic is an explanation for things that aren't understood is silly, too.

Of course, the likelihood that an anecdote is untrue is many, many times greater than that the anecdote is actually evidence of something supernatural. If you wish to convince me of something as unlikely as spirits are guiding our lives, you're going to have to offer much more substantial evidence than just anecdotes.

-- Roger

 

[dafydd]

kerikiwi and some others, so if you ever come across an anecdote that you simply cannot explain away in your own mind with your myriad of theories including coincidence, memory fail... then instead of believing there may be things out there that you never thought possible...you choose to believe the person is lying? Obviously I can't change that, but it is sad. And definitely closed-minded.

Woo exists, or a person may be lying or mistaken. That's hard one. I'm getting on a bit now but when I was younger I used to believe it all. Ley lines, astral bodies, dowsing, precognition, pyramid power, you name it. It was by actually investigating these subjects after I opened my mind to all the evidence that caused me to realize that there is no evidence for the paranormal. We are not automatic gainsayers here.

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

I'm not sure how much of a coincidence this anecdote will seem like, but it happened to me yesterday - I've had a few films that I've been waiting until I was in the mood for watching and yesterday was the day. First I watched Ted, which stars Mark Whalberg and Mila Kunis. The second film I watched was Date Night, which stars Tina Fey and Steve Carrell. About half way into the second film, Tina and Steve visit an acquaintance who turns out to be Mark Whalberg. About 20 minutes later than that, they encounter Mila Kunis.

I have taken this as a sign that Mila Kunis is gorgeous and talented, and have made a point of catching up with her back catalogue.

 

[carlitos]

Carlitos, there is cross traffic but the original person who posts must sign up before posting and can sign up from anywhere!!!! All 34 supposedly different people signed up from EXACTLY the same spot. And obviously you didn't scroll down and see where the fake keeps doing the same thing with more new names and verifies that he is a fake through the back and forth.

Except that they didn't sign up from EXACTLY the same spot, unless you did some IP tracking. They signed into whatever the site is so they could leave comments. I just posted a test comment; once it posts to the blog, read it and tell me EXACTLY where I signed in from.

 

[tsig]

Resume, What it means depends on how you look at it. Here are possible explanations:
1) a patron at the library ( I verified request originated at that particular library where we never worked or lived) with a similar last name as my Dad wanted that book but forgot his library card. Asked the clerk to look up his name on computer...clerk got the name in an alphabetical list and patron's name was close to my Dad's on the list (diff't libraries linked with patron names) And by mistake (my Dad impressed thought) the clerk linked the other patron's reserve for the Palin book to my Dad's record.
2) Someone trying to play a cruel joke on us who knew either my Mother or me (but we can't think of anyone) worked in that library and we didn't know it and put the reserve in
under my Dad's name. Or that person knew someone who worked in that library and asked them to do it.
3) Someone who knew my Mom or me and was trying to be "helpful" in giving us a sign from my Dad worked in that library and put the reserve in under my dad's name. But we don't know anyone who worked there. So in that case it would have to be someone we knew who liked us and was trying to "help" who knew someone who worked in that libray and asked them to do it.
The 3rd situation is similar to Remie's possible explanation of the reading in Las Vegas where the man's wife (who was not with him if I remember correctly and so had to call) gave John Edward information about her husband to impress him. In that case she would also have to send John a picture of her husband so John could attempt to spot him in the crowd and so know where the reading should be directed. Although , I find that kind of thinking more convoluted than Remie thinks mine is : )
Anyway, I already know which option you all will think it is. Just sharing the story.

So your dad has nothing better to do in the afterlife than impress thoughts on library workers?