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Honor killing in Pakistan

TimCallahan said:
It seems to me we have two basic choices:

1) Ignore the suffering inflicted by such groups as the Taliban, Al Qaeda and those who perpetrate honor killings.

2) Do something about these groups.

We already agree that we cannot force societies to change be way of military force, although military force might be effective against military wings of organizations like Al Qaeda. That leaves such actions as education - particularly of women, raising their standard of living, making foreign aid conditional, sanctions and other pressures. I can see no reason to refrain from doing any of these.
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I agree to extent with '2', but with the caveat 'only if our assistance is required'.

You also use the word 'groups'; these are not groups, but entire cultures (or AN entire culture). It's easier to change the mindset of a small group as opposed to a vast culture spread out across many countries.

As has already been pointed out, Honour Killing is already illegal in most of the countries that practice it, to a varying degree. The best you could hope for would be to assist those who want change into pressuring for tougher sentences, and providing them with the ability to educate their people.
 
SatansMaleVoiceChoir said:
. . . (snip) . . . As has already been pointed out, Honour Killing is already illegal in most of the countries that practice it, to a varying degree. The best you could hope for would be to assist those who want change into pressuring for tougher sentences, and providing them with the ability to educate their people.
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In many cases, the sentences for such murders are very light, often only amounting to two months in jail. However, here is a hopeful sign (from the article):

Five members of a Dehli family have been sentenced to death for killing a young couple in 2010, the BBC reports.

The parents, uncle, aunt and cousin of a teenage girl named Asha were arrested the day after they fatally beat and tortured Asha and her young lover, Yogesh, for attempting to elope. The family opposed the union because Yogesh and Asha were from different castes.

“It can be safely concluded that the prosecution has been able to prove beyond reasonable doubt that the accused persons had caused the death of the victims with the common intention after giving them merciless beatings by tying them with rope and thereafter electrocuting them on various parts of their body,” Additional Sessions Judge Ramesh Kumar said, according to the BBC.

The incident was described as an “honor killing,” hundreds of which occur in India each year. Last year, in an attempt to curb the practice, India’s Supreme Court ruled that honor killings are a capital offense.
 
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TimCallahan said:
In many cases, the sentences for such murders are very light, often only amounting to two months in jail. However, here is a hopeful sign (from the article):

Five members of a Dehli family have been sentenced to death for killing a young couple in 2010, the BBC reports.

The parents, uncle, aunt and cousin of a teenage girl named Asha were arrested the day after they fatally beat and tortured Asha and her young lover, Yogesh, for attempting to elope. The family opposed the union because Yogesh and Asha were from different castes.

“It can be safely concluded that the prosecution has been able to prove beyond reasonable doubt that the accused persons had caused the death of the victims with the common intention after giving them merciless beatings by tying them with rope and thereafter electrocuting them on various parts of their body,” Additional Sessions Judge Ramesh Kumar said, according to the BBC.

The incident was described as an “honor killing,” hundreds of which occur in India each year. Last year, in an attempt to curb the practice, India’s Supreme Court ruled that honor killings are a capital offense.
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