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Some news: Bourtsev of Russia has posted some uninformed nonsense, and Ketchum has said on Facebook that it's wrong, and she will respond later.

David Paulides has posted a Ketchum-related text berg at his site. He believes there IS a paper. I wonder if Ketchum has moved to California. Most of the post is the usual "soon" and "skeptic bashing," with a little Meldrum bashing as well. He clings to the "bigfoot is human" line. Here is the money quote (Okay it's not very money):

Dr. Ketchum and her team of scientists and laboratories have been able to sequence three complete genomes, getting identical results independently verified by different labs. This is not a casual everyday finding, this will cause the scientific community to stand up and take notice. Many people have claimed to know what our results were, nearly everyone was wrong, even some high profile media people that have just recently made comments, all were wrong.



Dr. Ketchum originally found the combination to unlock bigfoot DNA and utilized top scientists in various fields to validate her results. The results were independently verified with the group silently sitting on these findings for months, as the results were validated a third and fourth time. Remember, this isn’t one total genome sequence; it’s three with dozens and dozens of other findings validating the results.
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Sounds like we may be back to my original Hoopa theory.
 
Melba pops up to suprise the world!

So melba just showed up, she is hinting/ claiming that she now has the whole genome, and it is a hybrid form of human that seperated 15000 years ago.

Of course it is far to important science to be listed in a peer reviwed scientific journal, like nature or Science, instead she has now submitted it to a russian journal, which I assume is run by that wacky known BF forgerer, the hydrologist yahoo - or whatever, i cant kkep track pf all the russian hoaxers!
 
she's publishing it in a russian journal dude..... do you think that' because it's of too high a quality for American Journals?

or do you think that's because her paper got kicked back for being garbage?


Don't get me wrong, if a legit scientist like Sykes coms out and says "there might be something to this" then you have my attention, but anyone who takes this broad and her Bigfoot shell game seriously is losing more than a few screws.

seriously, somwhere PT Barnum is blushing
 
Haha! Should be fun to watch the believers go nuts. You know those russian bigfoot guys have been extremely credible. Much more so than the american ones *wink wink*
 
I'm totally going to get skewed for asking this, but what if? What if the DNA thing comes out as "whatever"? Will it change anyones mind on the JREF?

BTW - I feel it would not really matter, need a type specimen, as I have stated for years.
 
If Sykes' study produces results that HE finds interesting. The I think you would see many of us at least move closer to the fence. But anything Ketchum produces is just more Biggsploitation IMO.
 
COGrizzly said:
I'm totally going to get skewed for asking this, but what if? What if the DNA thing comes out as "whatever"? Will it change anyones mind on the JREF?

BTW - I feel it would not really matter, need a type specimen, as I have stated for years.
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I am 100% confident there is no BF. They can fly balloons and do DNA tests for as long as they like, it won't change a thing.
 
StankApe said:
she's publishing it in a russian journal dude..... do you think that' because it's of too high a quality for American Journals?

or do you think that's because her paper got kicked back for being garbage?


Don't get me wrong, if a legit scientist like Sykes coms out and says "there might be something to this" then you have my attention, but anyone who takes this broad and her Bigfoot shell game seriously is losing more than a few screws.

seriously, somwhere PT Barnum is blushing
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I think she couldn't get it published here because her methodology is unsound. Therefore she opted for a route ( white paper) where she wouldn't be required to get into the details about how she drew her conclusions.

Although I know you guys have no respect for Dr. Meldrum, he did discuss his most recent experiences in Russia. He said Igor planted hair and hoaxed footprints in a cave in Russia that was supposedly inhabited by a Yeti. Igor asked Dr. Meldrum to visit to verify the findings. Dr. Meldrum was disgusted about the whole situation and was very vocal about it after he returned.

It seems that the motive in Russia for establishing the existence in of the Yeti is to promote tourism. Based on that episode last year, the fact that Igor is quoting Melba and she is publishing in Russia sort of speaks for itself.
 
StankApe said:
she's publishing it in a russian journal dude..... do you think that' because it's of too high a quality for American Journals?

or do you think that's because her paper got kicked back for being garbage?


Don't get me wrong, if a legit scientist like Sykes coms out and says "there might be something to this" then you have my attention, but anyone who takes this broad and her Bigfoot shell game seriously is losing more than a few screws.

seriously, somwhere PT Barnum is blushing
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I think Bourtsev is blowing smoke. A Russian Robert Lindsay. And it may have worked, because apparently Ketchum, from wherever she is, has responded. But I do agree that no quality American peer reviewed scientific journal will publish the idea that human DNA is proof of bigfoot. There are many off shore journals that will publish almost anything, and I do think that she, like Roger Patterson, is both determined and desperate.
 
StankApe said:
she's publishing it in a russian journal dude..... do you think that' because it's of too high a quality for American Journals?

or do you think that's because her paper got kicked back for being garbage?


Don't get me wrong, if a legit scientist like Sykes coms out and says "there might be something to this" then you have my attention, but anyone who takes this broad and her Bigfoot shell game seriously is losing more than a few screws.

seriously, somwhere PT Barnum is blushing
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I think Burtsev* is blowing smoke, conflating and inflating some statements from various sources including Paulides. And it may have worked, because apparently Ketchum, from wherever she is, has responded. But I do agree that no quality American peer reviewed scientific journal will publish the idea that human DNA is proof of bigfoot. There are many offshore journals that will publish almost anything, and I do think that she, like Roger Patterson, is both determined and desperate. Having said that, there is no evidence that a Russian journal is involved.

* not a scientist; more like a Russian John Green, and his "International Center of Hominology" may be nothing more than he and his fellow Russian bleevers sitting around a cheesy kitchen table, putting things on the internet. I mean, just like the dozens of cheesy bigfoot "organizations" on this side of the ocean.
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Dmitri Bayanov (also not a scientist) "Science Director" of the "International Kitchen Table Center of Hominology."

ETA: Burtsev walks back his earlier post, from HIS cheesy kitchen table.
...scientific magazines refuse to publish her manuscript which deserves to be published.
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One has to womder if Ketchum had any idea of what she was getting herself into with all this.
 
parnassus said:
I think Burtsev* is blowing smoke, conflating and inflating some statements from various sources including Paulides. And it may have worked, because apparently Ketchum, from wherever she is, has responded. But I do agree that no quality American peer reviewed scientific journal will publish the idea that human DNA is proof of bigfoot. There are many offshore journals that will publish almost anything, and I do think that she, like Roger Patterson, is both determined and desperate. Having said that, there is no evidence that a Russian journal is involved.

* not a scientist; more like a Russian John Green, and his "International Center of Hominology" may be nothing more than he and his fellow Russian bleevers sitting around a cheesy kitchen table, putting things on the internet. I mean, just like the dozens of cheesy bigfoot "organizations" on this side of the ocean.
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Dmitri Bayanov (also not a scientist) "Science Director" of the "International Kitchen Table Center of Hominology."
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If I'm not mistaken, this fellow believes the Minnesota Iceman carny exhibit is a real animal. Also, there is a reason why Dahinden went all the way to Russia to have the Patterson film "vindicated."
 
Uh, oh.

Ketchum is now saying sasquatch are a hybrid species, human mother at some point mating with a "novel non-human," neither archaic hominin or ape.

She has a news release on Facebook, maybe 5 minutes ago.
 
Just for early news, not slowly moderated please.

Ketchum has just released a news item in which she says her report will show that sasquatch are a hybrid, of human and "novel non-human", not archaic hominin and not ape.
 
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