Merged The election was stolen/rigged!

[Straw Man]

In the last election,
"McCain, R-Ariz., handily defeated Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., 68 percent to 23 percent in a voluntary survey of 4,293 active-duty, National Guard and reserve subscribers and former subscribers to Army Times, Navy Times, Marine Corps Times and Air Force Times."

http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/10/military_poll_100508w/

Meanwhile, in the last election that was held in the real world, McCain lost to Obama.

The military is not the country, and even if 100% of the absentee military voted Romney, and had been suppressed, do you still think he had won? You know the numbers Robert?

A military vote carries no more weight than a regular vote.

 

[Foolmewunz]

You're quoting Stalin as an authority on democracy? I should just stop here.

But I won't. Once again you don't answer the question. You cited allegations of voting machines visibly miscounting votes, so as to potentially alert voters, election officials, and third-party monitors to what was going on. You have yet to explain how this would constitute an effective way to rig an election.

I know this was several pages ago and may have been answered, but essentially, not only is he citing Stalin, but he's misquoting him. Stalin's quote did not mention "Democracy". Robert threw that in for effect.

Plus, Russian does not have a single word "count" with two meanings, so the elegant play on the word doesn't occur. The original quote was about the CP in the Soviet Union and was a little more chilling than the cute version we hear all the time. It went more like, "I don't consider it important who in the party votes or how they vote. What I find extremely important, though, is... Who will count the votes, and how."

End derail... back to your originally scheduled thread.

 

[EventHorizon]

Meanwhile, in the last election that was held in the real world, McCain lost to Obama.

The military is not the country, and even if 100% of the absentee military voted Romney, and had been suppressed, do you still think he had won? You know the numbers Robert?

A military vote carries no more weight than a regular vote.

But as Robert has clearly demonstrated, he doesn't really care much for democracy. Judging by most of his posts I think he'd rather live in a country controlled by the military or maybe a dictator. Or both.

 

[SpitfireIX]

...who is widely considered a crackpot even by his own party. No one else remembers seeing these alleged hordes of "black people," nor can the claimant provide any evidence for bussed-in voters.

Republican here. He's definitely a crackpot.

 

[SpitfireIX]

That's the kind of story that make Maine Republicans do a collective facepalm every time time Webster opens his mouth, and probably why he won't survive much longer as that state's party chairman.

I read that he's retiring. I don't know whether that was already planned before he made his outrageous claims or not.

 

[SpitfireIX]

Meanwhile, in the last election that was held in the real world, McCain lost to Obama.

The military is not the country, and even if 100% of the absentee military voted Romney, and had been suppressed, do you still think he had won? You know the numbers Robert?

A military vote carries no more weight than a regular vote.

Again, not for Robert's benefit, but the readers of those magazines are almost certainly disproportionately officers and senior NCOs, and thus likely to skew heavily conservative/Republican.

 

[JayUtah]

I read that he's retiring. I don't know whether that was already planned before he made his outrageous claims or not.

He had announced his retirement prior to the election, but new calls are being made by Maine Republicans for him to step down immediately in the wake of his racist comments rather than stay in office until the new chair is elected next month. In other words, as it stands he's simply retiring by not running for chair in December. That departure is not connected in any way to the controversy. Some Maine Republicans desire that his departure be premature and therefore a consequence of his public comments. This is hardly a knee jerk; Webster has a habit of blaming lost elections on wild claims of voter fraud.

 

[Travis]

Hmm, they had my dad with the wrong address when he tried to vote. Was he part of this conspiracy?

And offering pizza in order to encourage people to vote is now evidence of a crime? As is using buses to get people to the polling station?

Are only people within walking distance of a polling station or those that own a car allowed to vote now?

 

[Robert Prey]

Still More Election Fraud

From: Washington Times

Growing Vote Count Scandal

"On election night incumbent Republican Allen West had maintained a district-wide lead of nearly 2000 votes until St. Lucie County Supervisor of Elections Gertrude Walker inexplicably “recounted” thousands of early ballots, resulting in 4,400 vote shift to the challenger."

"We are not getting to observe the vote count,”

"8,000 military absentee ballots, These ballots could decide the election but were only picked up on Wednesday. They are being counted in an area that is off-limits to observers..."

"...ordered ballot workers to reproduce some ballots that were already reproduced..."

Washington Times http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog...unt-amid-growing-vote-count-sc/#ixzz2Ceuc31WY

"Entire Election manipulated..."Democrats have perfected a system of Election rigging..."

 

[Tomtomkent]

So Robert, in your opinion is this scandal as bad as that surrouinding the miscounts and alleged fraud that elected GWB? Should Dubya also have been impeached based on the allegations made against him?

 

[Straw Man]

"Entire Election manipulated..."Democrats have perfected a system of Election rigging..."

What relevance does this have to the story, Robert? It's from the comments section.

What about the Republicans? Are they trying to interfere?

http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/political/allen-west-patrick-murphy-race-results-democrats-say-gov-scott-improperly-interfered-to-help-west

“It was Governor Scott who cut early voting hours, created long lines during early voting, and imposed unprecedented burdens on county election offices. Despite his repeated efforts to disenfranchise voters, the people of Florida’s 18th district chose Patrick Murphy to represent them in Washington, and by a margin that does not necessitate a recount.

“Governor Scott’s efforts to interfere with a local official who has decades of experience and overturn an election conducted in full accordance with the law are a gross misuse of power and an unwarranted intrusion into the electoral process that should cease immediately.”

 

[Dcdrac]

Robert please explain why battalions of lawyers acting on the behalf of the Republican party are conspicusously absent.

 

[Myron Proudfoot]

Robert please explain why battalions of lawyers acting on the behalf of the Republican party are conspicusously absent.

They're all in Hawaii waiting for the birth certificate?

 

[Dcdrac]

The Conspiracy to say the US Election was rigged

Seems the Right find it hard to accept democracy and the fringe are spinning that the election was somehow rigged, despite the GOP not even dipsuting it in any way shape or form.

 

[Upchurch]

How is this different than the other thread?

 

[timhau]

I don't know what dipsuting is, but it sounds like something I could try with Penelope Cruz.

 

[Dcdrac]

Its a counter balance, blanced unbiased...wait a minute thats Fox news..

 

[JayUtah]

From: Washington Times

The third spam-only post on the subject, without addressing followups to any of the other two. Are you listening to the debate, Robert, or just throwing things at it desperately?

 

[JayUtah]

Robert please explain why battalions of lawyers acting on the behalf of the Republican party are conspicusously absent.

As well as that cadre of suppressed pro-Romney voters Robert insists must be lurking in those unanimous precincts, held captive no doubt by legions of Democrat death squads.

While the conspiracy theorists foam and spew conspiracy theories, the GOP leadership is converging toward the conclusion that they grossly mischaracterized the demographics of the election. This affects polls too, because poll results are weighted by various demographic factors to more closely approximate the population from which the poll samples are taken. In other words, Republican leaders aren't falling all over themselves imagining that somehow they must "really" have won the election. They're learning from their mistakes and strategizing to improve their showing in the 2014 election.

 

[R.A.F.]

Still More Electon Fraud.

If you are not going to rationally respond to criticism of your opinions, then why should anyone pay you the least bit of attention?

...no...SERIOUSLY, Robert...why should we?

Oh, and you can't post "still more" when you haven't presented ANY evidence for fraud...just stating the obvious.