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More GOP obsession with rape (and incest)

The really weird disconnect is that people who utter junk like this don't care about the civil rights of women, or minorities, or the powerless. They never have. But when it comes to fetuses, they are huge bleeding hearts.

Having decided that every fetus must live, and that this prime directive should supersede all other consequences (including the consequences that some women will die, and that some women and men will have their private lives destroyed), these individuals are now having to address what some of those consequences are. And their response is the answer of a sniveling yellow-belly: denial.

Rather than face up to logic of their positions like men, they flatly deny that there is any problem at all.
 
LarianLeQuella said:
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Define rare please Mr Koster. And what is this continued old, white guy obsession with rape and having determination over ladyparts?
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I know a guy who once farted a live tap-dancing Morris kitten, complete with cane and hat. True story! Swear on a stack Jefferson Bibles!

I can make up complete crap too.

Really, I can't wait for all these dry old ghouls to keel over dead in their scrambled eggs.
 
More fodder for Jon Stewart's "Republicans said what about rape now?". They keep on coming, do they? Love this comment:

I think there is a Democrat activist somewhere with a pentagram and a blue flame, and at regular intervals, perhaps governed by phases of the moon, she throws a little more powder into the flame, and another Republican shoots off his mouth about rape babies.

I mean, this seems like the Occam's Razor explanation to me. Others may see it differently.
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Membership agreement has strict rules about suggesting some be harmed. I want to make it very clear that this post is not about wishing harm on someone, hoping that someone will be harmed, encouraging someone to harm another, or anything like that.

That being said, I must hypothetically wonder if any hypothetical political hopefuls shooting their mouths off about rape would dance a different jig if someone pulled a knife on them and raped them? Obviously it couldn't be a gay man or gay rights would be set back a century. Maybe these hypothetical candidates that I am hypothetically talking about could be visiting a new state prison in some hypothetical state and some hypothetical prisoners could take them hostage and rape them.

I wonder if any laws would be changed?
 
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Ladewig said:
Membership agreement has strict rules about suggesting some be harmed. I want to make it very clear that this post is not about wishing harm on someone, hoping that someone will be harmed, encouraging someone to harm another, or anything like that.

That being said, I must hypothetically wonder if any hypothetical political hopefuls shooting their mouths off about rape would dance a different jig if someone pulled a knife on them and raped them? Obviously it couldn't be a gay man or gay rights would be set back a century. Maybe these hypothetical candidates that I am hypothetically talking about could be visiting a new state prison in some hypothetical state and some hypothetical prisoners could take them hostage and rape them.

I wonder if any laws would be changed?
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Rick white guys rarely get pregnant.
 
Ladewig said:
I wonder if any laws would be changed?
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Only if they were to be held hypothetically responsible in all ways from anything that should hypothetically result from this hypothetical situation.

The thing that I just find puzzling is that all these old, white penes are the ones that somehow think they are qualified to truly make decisions for uteri.
 
Why are the Republicans were considered the party of morality and decency when they seem to spend a lot of time thinking about and talking about sex and rape and vaginas and penises and what's going where and how often and under what circumstances?

Maybe they think about sex so much because they aren't getting any?
 
TragicMonkey said:
Why are the Republicans were considered the party of morality and decency when they seem to spend a lot of time thinking about and talking about sex and rape and vaginas and penises and what's going where and how often and under what circumstances?

Maybe they think about sex so much because they aren't getting any?
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My sexworker friends say that Republicans often pay for it. They are also the ones who give all sorts of grief over having to use a condom.
 
TragicMonkey said:
Why are the Republicans were considered the party of morality and decency when they seem to spend a lot of time thinking about and talking about sex and rape and vaginas and penises and what's going where and how often and under what circumstances?

Maybe they think about sex so much because they aren't getting any?
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They're always in order, but a Carlin quote here is especially so...


George Carlin:

"No wonder they're afraid of their bodies, take a look at 'em! Did you ever notice that most of the people who are against abortion are people you wouldn't want to **** in the first place?!"
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TragicMonkey said:
Why are the Republicans were considered the party of morality and decency when they seem to spend a lot of time thinking about and talking about sex and rape and vaginas and penises and what's going where and how often and under what circumstances?

Maybe they think about sex so much because they aren't getting any?
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I see your problem: you hear "family values" and you think that means "family values"
It's actually code for "male privilege". If you substitute "family values" for "male privilege" it suddenly, almost magically becomes internally consistent.
 
Polaris said:
Really, I can't wait for all these dry old ghouls to keel over dead in their scrambled eggs.
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Take heart, because history tells us that progressives always win these debates in the end. That is, society progresses.

Even if these bizarre conservative ideas last as long as the bizarre conservatives do, our society will move beyond them.

I've been pointing this out in the Roe v. Wade thread. That debate (whether or not states can criminalize abortion) is settled and done. Conservatives lost, and the world has moved on. Now we can discuss rape and incest exceptions to laws prohibiting spending federal money on abortion. But that's a very different kind of debate than the one our society had about abortion in the late '60s and early '70s. And the progressives will eventually win this debate as well.

Happened with slavery, women's suffrage, civil rights, school segregation, etc. I believe it was in my own lifetime (or very shortly before) that a state governor was threatening to end public education before accepting federal orders to desegregate. Such things are unthinkable nowadays.

On these kinds of issues, conservatives always lose, and progressives always win in the end. Society progresses.
 
magellan said:
I see your problem: you hear "family values" and you think that means "family values"
It's actually code for "male privilege". If you substitute "family values" for "male privilege" it suddenly, almost magically becomes internally consistent.
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The original premise of the cursed simian is correct. People in the western world don't give a damn that woman drive cars or don't cover their heads. These are not considered sins so we don't give them our attention. IMO at least.
 
uke2se said:
Rich white guys rarely get pregnant.
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True, but they may have a better understanding why a woman wouldn't want to carry her rapist's offspring to term. Of course, as has been pointed out in other threads, once you make an exceptions for X then one loses what one believes is the moral high ground associated with "life is sacred and begins at conception," so I guess you are right - no abortion laws would be changed.

Still, seeing is believing - I say we try the experiment.

hypothetically, hypothetically.
 
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RandFan said:
The original premise of the cursed simian is correct. People in the western world don't give a damn that woman drive cars or don't cover their heads. These are not considered sins so we don't give them our attention. IMO at least.
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That would go a long way to explaining their attitude of homosexuality-is-icky.

It is kind of creepy that whole planks of the Republican platform are lifted from the Old Testament.
 
JoeTheJuggler said:
Take heart, because history tells us that progressives always win these debates in the end. That is, society progresses.
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I agree with your ultimate point. Still it may be difficult to take heart when one realizes that while black men were given the vote in the 1860s, their right to vote was not fully protected until the 1960s.
 
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