Julian Assange: rapist or not?

[Here_to_learn]

"Police drag away Julian Assange supporters as they protest at US Embassy in Melbourne"

This reminds me of a game that was played back when I was in high school - the idea was to walk into the local hamburger joint and get a dialog going like this:

- I'd like a hamburger without caviar.
- We don't have caviar on our hamburgers.
- Well, I don't want caviar on my hamburger.
- But we have never had caviar on our hamburgers!
- Listen - all I want is a hamburger without caviar.
- But...

The game was of course to keep this dialog going as long as possible, and tall tales were told!


But this is basically what we see - people demonstrating outside the US embassy with a message that the US shouldn't extradite JA. And the US answering "but we aren't!"...

 

[trustbutverify]

The only good thing about all this is that Western Country people like you, fortunately not representative of all Western people, can not do much harm anymore.
Assange will not be extradited, Iran will not be bombed, South America is not governed by US-supported criminal dictators like Pinochet any more..
Your time is gone, guys
You can get your room and your place in the museum of history.
Fortunately, the US and the UK empire and their friends and their supporters are becoming history.
Good news for the rest of the world
Assange included

I'm curious, will impregnating women against their will be an important part of the agenda of the glorious new "anti-western" dominated world?

 

[The Big Dog]

Re: Governments and the laws they make to keep us safe:

'Bradley Manning's treatment was cruel and inhuman, UN torture chief rules'

That off topic spam is from March!

Nice!

 

[Joey McGee]

Oh sweet Jesus in heaven...

So he makes himself sick by living in an embassy trying to avoid extradition, then whines that he is too sick to be extradited? These truly are the "coolest, smartest people in the world".

The latest from the news wires is that he looks totally fine and healthy. ex "Assange 'fit and well' on TV show"

 

[Joey McGee]

This reminds me of a game that was played back when I was in high school - the idea was to walk into the local hamburger joint and get a dialog going like this:

- I'd like a hamburger without caviar.
- We don't have caviar on our hamburgers.
- Well, I don't want caviar on my hamburger.
- But we have never had caviar on our hamburgers!
- Listen - all I want is a hamburger without caviar.
- But...

The game was of course to keep this dialog going as long as possible, and tall tales were told!


But this is basically what we see - people demonstrating outside the US embassy with a message that the US shouldn't extradite JA. And the US answering "but we aren't!"...

LOL!

Something tells me that this game would work really well on Assange supporters

 

[Noztradamus]

I'm curious, will impregnating women against their will be an important part of the agenda of the glorious new "anti-western" dominated world?

machismo: It's a Latino thing. Also strutting

 

[Here_to_learn]

LOL!

Something tells me that this game would work really well on Assange supporters

Well, I'd say that it was a pretty troll-like game (even though I'm well aware that it's very hard to define a troll), and I sometimes think I'm on the burger joints side, just repeating the same old "but we don't have caviar on our hamburgers" over and over again.

The problem comes of course when the person asks the hamburger joint to promise never ever to serve a hamburger with caviar, (especially since there is at least one place in Sweden that actually serves Hamburgers with Russian/Iranian caviar!)

 

[Mycroft]

They can call the leak of confidential documents with another name
Find a legal loophole as they did another 1000 times in the past.
Any problem with that?

So you basically believe law means nothing as any government can always find a "loophole" to get around it and do what they want?

If you believe that, why would you believe in any guarantee given by a government? Couldn't they just find a loophole around that too?

 

[Joey McGee]

"You have fought against a hegemony of the United States" - Julian Assange to the leader of Hezbollah.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Still no reason given as to why the US couldn't have extradited him from the UK.

 

[Hallo Alfie]

Probably the vivisection issue.

 

[John Mekki]

So you basically believe law means nothing as any government can always find a "loophole" to get around it and do what they want?

If you believe that, why would you believe in any guarantee given by a government? Couldn't they just find a loophole around that too?

I have replied on this, but my post was apparently moved by the forum managers for some reasons.
Hence, I have no possibility to discuss further on the issue.

If you want to get a reply on this, I guess you will have to open an ad-hoc thread yourself, otherwise my reply will be moved again.
I have no other way to come back to you, sorry.

 

[BenBurch]

Probably the vivisection issue.

Ha! We managed to implant that chip in his head without him even knowing it; he'll never figure out what happened to his spleen when the time comes.

 

[Wudang]

I have replied on this, but my post was apparently moved by the forum managers for some reasons.
Hence, I have no possibility to discuss further on the issue.

If you want to get a reply on this, I guess you will have to open an ad-hoc thread yourself, otherwise my reply will be moved again.
I have no other way to come back to you, sorry.

You really should read the Membership Agreement. A number of your posts were moved to "Abandon All Hope"

 

[eirik]

He's Gish'ed for a couple of pages now already, a strategy also deployed by every other Assange acolyte I've encountered. Discussing the rape issue would be devastating to their case, and in their head rape is probably irrelevant in the big scheme of things.

 

[Paninaro]

Government of Sweden IS the entity that makes the laws in Sweden.

Actuallly, to be more accurate the Parlament is the entity that makes the laws in Sweden. The Goverment then rules in accordance with these laws.

 

[BenBurch]

Actuallly, to be more accurate the Parlament is the entity that makes the laws in Sweden. The Goverment then rules in accordance with these laws.

In the Truther's world, laws don't matter and anything imagined can be done with the snap of some powerful person's fingers.

 

[Joey McGee]

Exactly. I have every impression that JA knows knows that governments can't just change their extradition treaties and ways of treating crimes. He's just trolling the entire world telling them how HE thinks criminal justice should work. OK buddy, let's have a vote. Oops you fail. Kinda explains why you are an epic manipulator.

 

[000063]

If many people are having trouble understanding what you're saying, maybe the problem isn't with the many people.

The Dunning-Kruger effect is a funny thing.

Of course, I've seen people have their arguments absolutely eviscerated, and all they could say was that everyone else was misunderstanding them. Oddly, their "clarified" position usually could not be reasonably inferred from what they had actually said, and sometimes was actively contradictory to the earlier statement. I've rarely ever seen them admit to a misphrase, oddly enough.

This reminds me of a game that was played back when I was in high school - the idea was to walk into the local hamburger joint and get a dialog going like this:

- I'd like a hamburger without caviar.
- We don't have caviar on our hamburgers.
- Well, I don't want caviar on my hamburger.
- But we have never had caviar on our hamburgers!
- Listen - all I want is a hamburger without caviar.
- But...

The game was of course to keep this dialog going as long as possible, and tall tales were told!
...

What happens if they say "okay!" and give you a hamburger?

 

[Hallo Alfie]

What happens if they say "okay!" and give you a hamburger?

You deduce they have played the game before.