jasonpatterson
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The joys of text. I was saying that the story was amazing but NOT unique. The line can be read both ways.
This man saves lives!
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The joys of text. I was saying that the story was amazing but NOT unique. The line can be read both ways.
LOL, fascinating about the Poe. There's a radio host who continually says Fred Phelps is doing performance art, and I thought he was saying it just to annoy Phelps and his followers. But according to this Wikipedia article, some people actually think Fred Phelps is just yukking around. If so, he's GOOD.
I can't tell you what a relief it is just to be able to talk about the outrageousness of this man and have you all back me up. I tried so hard in the beginning to be open minded about his work, because my aunt and uncle were such believers. But geez, it was so beyond anything I'd ever heard of.
I was looking around an attorney website over the weekend, a firm that advertises heavily on TV. A chat window popped up, and I ended up telling a very abbreviated version to the operator. We'll see if it results in anything...they're supposed to call me tomorrow to let me know if they think there might be a case.
I had been working on trying to write my complaints, and it's hard because I need to keep it to one page. (Advice I read on QuackWatch) So much I want to say. lol
As I began going through all of the garbage, it dawned on me. Dr. X had told my mom to stop her medications, which was blood pressure med and baby aspirin. She did, and I couldn't talk her into starting it back up. While her BP isn't off the charts, it's high, and she's been on medication for about twenty years.
I complained to my aunt about it, so she had Dr. X take her blood pressure every time Mom saw him. And he wrote it down on a little card, which I have. Her BP was consistently high.
Then, she had a series of TIAs. I was with her when she had them, and the symptoms were textbook.
So I don't know if you could prove cause and effect or not, but it's worth a shot if a lawyer would take it on.
And after that is when he sold her the magic stroke drops. Good lord, I still cannot believe that one. My aunt's eyes just glistened with joy. Magic stroke drops. At my grandmother's funeral a few years ago, the same aunt brought "grief drops."
What a dingbat.
Right after Christmas, Mom lost her ability to stand, and had to go into the hospital. Her doctor then sent her to rehab for a few weeks, and unfortunately from there, she went into the nursing home.
But this aunt called me and told me Dr. X said rehab was a bad thing and probably hurt her. WTF???
I'm really mad at myself for not putting a stop to all this long ago, but I was trying to be kind, and Mom was just buying into it so heavily. I thought a little placebo effect couldn't hurt, and when I told her privately Dr. X was a nutball, she cried. Because she was so sure he could help me with anything, and I wasn't giving him a chance. If she didn't have the dementia, she would have laughed her way out of that place.
I can't tell you what a relief it is just to be able to talk about the outrageousness of this man and have you all back me up. I tried so hard in the beginning to be open minded about his work, because my aunt and uncle were such believers. But geez, it was so beyond anything I'd ever heard of.
I was looking around an attorney website over the weekend, a firm that advertises heavily on TV. A chat window popped up, and I ended up telling a very abbreviated version to the operator. We'll see if it results in anything...they're supposed to call me tomorrow to let me know if they think there might be a case.
I had been working on trying to write my complaints, and it's hard because I need to keep it to one page. (Advice I read on QuackWatch) So much I want to say. lol
As I began going through all of the garbage, it dawned on me. Dr. X had told my mom to stop her medications, which was blood pressure med and baby aspirin. She did, and I couldn't talk her into starting it back up. While her BP isn't off the charts, it's high, and she's been on medication for about twenty years.
I complained to my aunt about it, so she had Dr. X take her blood pressure every time Mom saw him. And he wrote it down on a little card, which I have. Her BP was consistently high.
Then, she had a series of TIAs. I was with her when she had them, and the symptoms were textbook.
So I don't know if you could prove cause and effect or not, but it's worth a shot if a lawyer would take it on.
And after that is when he sold her the magic stroke drops. Good lord, I still cannot believe that one. My aunt's eyes just glistened with joy. Magic stroke drops. At my grandmother's funeral a few years ago, the same aunt brought "grief drops."
What a dingbat.
Right after Christmas, Mom lost her ability to stand, and had to go into the hospital. Her doctor then sent her to rehab for a few weeks, and unfortunately from there, she went into the nursing home.
But this aunt called me and told me Dr. X said rehab was a bad thing and probably hurt her. WTF???
I'm really mad at myself for not putting a stop to all this long ago, but I was trying to be kind, and Mom was just buying into it so heavily. I thought a little placebo effect couldn't hurt, and when I told her privately Dr. X was a nutball, she cried. Because she was so sure he could help me with anything, and I wasn't giving him a chance. If she didn't have the dementia, she would have laughed her way out of that place.
I thought I might post a very tragic update to this story. This is so unbelievable that if you saw it on a Lifetime TV movie, you'd say "Geez, who writes this junk?" Except I swear it's so true. 
I'm heartbroken and devastated, btw. Read my posts from last spring for the start of this story.
In June, my mom was put in the hospital for a brief stay. Long story short, this wacko aunt and uncle (her sister and sister's husband), talked my mother into switching her powers of attorney from me to them. I was never informed by the lawyer involved or anyone. I found out when I went to visit Mom, and she was gone. Even the hospital would give me no answers, and at first I thought she wandered away and they refused to say anything over fears of liability. Instead, I think this aunt/uncle had done a con job on the hospital staff and convinced them I was a lunatic and abusive daughter or something.
Anyway, they've had her since June. My aunt has called around to the entire family, and I don't know what's exactly been said about me since I'm now shunned from the family. (Unbelievable) A different aunt/uncle stood up for me (because they were somewhat "accused" as well, and they were most involved in Mom's care, helping me with decisions and what they could). But the rest of the family just believed my aunt.
From the bits and pieces I've been able to get, the bad aunt convinced everyone that I was abusive, neglectful and stole from my mother, then dumped her in a bad nursing home. (It's not...it's very highly rated, and has the fewest health violations in the entire area.)
None of this is true, and I can't imagine why they would believe this, but I guess my aunt's word trumps me in all things. (And man, she's GOOD!) I took care of my mother since her dementia began, even found a house a few houses away from me and helped move her from another town so we could live next to one another. I did her laundry, errands, some cooking, ran her around everywhere, etc. etc. etc. for three years until it was no longer safe to be home.
A year before she entered the facility, I did bring in some home caregivers to help out with the laundry and meals, plus provide her with company other than me. She needed more social interaction. It worked well for some time. Also, the state did several visits and full assessments (including safety issues in her house) to see what services she might qualify for.
All of those "experts" in and out of Mom's house, and if there were any indication of neglect/abuse, they would have seen something and reported me.
But whatever. They stole my mother and took her to their home. They have not paid her bills, and I have no idea what on earth they're doing with her monthly pension or her savings.
I don't care about that. I do care about the fact that my mother is now in their hands, and they refuse to communicate with me or let me see her.
I saw her over the weekend, however. Unfortunately, the good aunt died. They brought Mom to the funeral, went out of their way to avoid me (most of the family refused to even look at me, let alone say hello).
But I got my chance and went running to her. She held out her arms and began weeping, but once I hugged her, the brainwashing kicked in. She said I contaminated her and was trying to poison her, then began screaming and waving her arms for her "metal detox, my metal detox, bring me my metal detox."
Someone asked "What's metal detox," and she said "It's from Dr. (Quack), it's in (sister's) purse."
And then she refused to look at me or speak to me after that.
The brainwashing is complete. I am her only child, and we were always VERY close. My mom has been stolen from me and is now under the full care of the quack. I'm pretty sure she doesn't even see a regular doctor anymore because they are so caught up in this guy, they believe he cures everything and there's no need for traditional medicine.
This was probably the last time I'll ever see my mother, and to say I'm devastated doesn't even come close to how I feel.
I'm heartbroken and devastated, btw. Read my posts from last spring for the start of this story.
In June, my mom was put in the hospital for a brief stay. Long story short, this wacko aunt and uncle (her sister and sister's husband), talked my mother into switching her powers of attorney from me to them. I was never informed by the lawyer involved or anyone. I found out when I went to visit Mom, and she was gone. Even the hospital would give me no answers, and at first I thought she wandered away and they refused to say anything over fears of liability. Instead, I think this aunt/uncle had done a con job on the hospital staff and convinced them I was a lunatic and abusive daughter or something.
Anyway, they've had her since June. My aunt has called around to the entire family, and I don't know what's exactly been said about me since I'm now shunned from the family. (Unbelievable) A different aunt/uncle stood up for me (because they were somewhat "accused" as well, and they were most involved in Mom's care, helping me with decisions and what they could). But the rest of the family just believed my aunt.
From the bits and pieces I've been able to get, the bad aunt convinced everyone that I was abusive, neglectful and stole from my mother, then dumped her in a bad nursing home. (It's not...it's very highly rated, and has the fewest health violations in the entire area.)
None of this is true, and I can't imagine why they would believe this, but I guess my aunt's word trumps me in all things. (And man, she's GOOD!) I took care of my mother since her dementia began, even found a house a few houses away from me and helped move her from another town so we could live next to one another. I did her laundry, errands, some cooking, ran her around everywhere, etc. etc. etc. for three years until it was no longer safe to be home.
A year before she entered the facility, I did bring in some home caregivers to help out with the laundry and meals, plus provide her with company other than me. She needed more social interaction. It worked well for some time. Also, the state did several visits and full assessments (including safety issues in her house) to see what services she might qualify for.
All of those "experts" in and out of Mom's house, and if there were any indication of neglect/abuse, they would have seen something and reported me.
But whatever. They stole my mother and took her to their home. They have not paid her bills, and I have no idea what on earth they're doing with her monthly pension or her savings.
I don't care about that. I do care about the fact that my mother is now in their hands, and they refuse to communicate with me or let me see her.
I saw her over the weekend, however. Unfortunately, the good aunt died. They brought Mom to the funeral, went out of their way to avoid me (most of the family refused to even look at me, let alone say hello).
But I got my chance and went running to her. She held out her arms and began weeping, but once I hugged her, the brainwashing kicked in. She said I contaminated her and was trying to poison her, then began screaming and waving her arms for her "metal detox, my metal detox, bring me my metal detox."
Someone asked "What's metal detox," and she said "It's from Dr. (Quack), it's in (sister's) purse."
And then she refused to look at me or speak to me after that.
The brainwashing is complete. I am her only child, and we were always VERY close. My mom has been stolen from me and is now under the full care of the quack. I'm pretty sure she doesn't even see a regular doctor anymore because they are so caught up in this guy, they believe he cures everything and there's no need for traditional medicine.
This was probably the last time I'll ever see my mother, and to say I'm devastated doesn't even come close to how I feel.
Legally, there's only one avenue, and every lawyer I've talked to has advised me to just move on. (Easy for them, but this is the advice I get from EVERYONE. Just move on with your life and accept that the mother you knew and loved is gone.)
The avenue is a full guardianship battle, and every attorney I've talked to is talking 25 grand to start (which I don't have) because of the contentiousness of it all. And then, not a real good chance of winning anyway. Plus, it will drag on so long that she's likely to be dead by the time it concludes.
I don't have the money, I'm not sure I could handle that much more stress at this time, and I really don't want to drag Mom through the court system, especially since she would be kicking and screaming the whole way. They've convinced her that I tried to have her killed at the nursing home, and god knows what else.
I had thought I might do a public shaming event using Facebook, but again, what's the outcome? They would never give in, and Mom is so brainwashed, she would be very upset by it. She obviously wants nothing to do with me.
Dr. Quack has ruined my life, and he's taking the health of my mother. She'll die sooner than she should. She was so pale and even had a bruise on her cheek.
At the nursing home, they worked very hard with her to keep her up walking (with a walker, and with assistance on and off as needed). Now she's completely in a wheelchair, four months later. She was very frail looking, so pale, she just looked horrible.
And, I found out that my aunt and uncle are taking her to their office daily. Unless they've done a massive cleanup, the back storage room they would always use for her would go well on an episode of Hoarders. It's that bad. You can't even walk around in there. And no windows.
So she's sitting in a windowless room all day long. No social interaction except with them and Dr. Quack.
Legally, I don't even have any rights to VISIT MY OWN MOTHER. Can you imagine????
The avenue is a full guardianship battle, and every attorney I've talked to is talking 25 grand to start (which I don't have) because of the contentiousness of it all. And then, not a real good chance of winning anyway. Plus, it will drag on so long that she's likely to be dead by the time it concludes.
I don't have the money, I'm not sure I could handle that much more stress at this time, and I really don't want to drag Mom through the court system, especially since she would be kicking and screaming the whole way. They've convinced her that I tried to have her killed at the nursing home, and god knows what else.
I had thought I might do a public shaming event using Facebook, but again, what's the outcome? They would never give in, and Mom is so brainwashed, she would be very upset by it. She obviously wants nothing to do with me.
Dr. Quack has ruined my life, and he's taking the health of my mother. She'll die sooner than she should. She was so pale and even had a bruise on her cheek.
At the nursing home, they worked very hard with her to keep her up walking (with a walker, and with assistance on and off as needed). Now she's completely in a wheelchair, four months later. She was very frail looking, so pale, she just looked horrible.
And, I found out that my aunt and uncle are taking her to their office daily. Unless they've done a massive cleanup, the back storage room they would always use for her would go well on an episode of Hoarders. It's that bad. You can't even walk around in there. And no windows.
So she's sitting in a windowless room all day long. No social interaction except with them and Dr. Quack.
Legally, I don't even have any rights to VISIT MY OWN MOTHER. Can you imagine????
Part 3, and I appreciate your indulgence. Here's where I ask for help.
I have contacted the local news investigative team about Dr. Quack, and no response. I contacted and filled out a report for the AG. Nothing.
I thought i would wait until after elections are done and then try the AG again.
Any other ideas on how to combat Dr. Quack?
I have contacted the local news investigative team about Dr. Quack, and no response. I contacted and filled out a report for the AG. Nothing.
I thought i would wait until after elections are done and then try the AG again.
Any other ideas on how to combat Dr. Quack?
Oh, and I think there *might* be some Scientology involvement. When I played along for awhile and would submit to his "treatments," he occasionally used Scientology terms like clear. Others I can't remember at the moment. Could be coincidence. Also the constant "removal" of aliens and bad humors.
The other thing is this chiropractor is listed on a Scientology site as being friendly to Scientologists or something.
The other thing is this chiropractor is listed on a Scientology site as being friendly to Scientologists or something.
Ziggurat
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On a logical level, it really shouldn't matter: his fraudulent behavior is so obvious that it needs no confirmation from us. And yet, if you're the only one noticing it, it may not feel that way. You may end up feeling like this woman:
godless dave
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Does your state have an elder abuse hotline? If so, call it.
Your aunt is depriving your mother of medical care. That's abuse.
Your aunt is depriving your mother of medical care. That's abuse.
RussDill
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Sadly, I think it will be very difficult at this point, especially if evil aunt/uncle have already applied for a restraining order back when power of attorney was taken over. Things are very difficult at this stage, perhaps the power of attorney change could be reversed if you could get some nice doctor to testify as to the quackiness. And maybe a psychologist as to the brainwashing and her mental state?
I don't know where you would find people with the proper credentials willing to take the time to give expert testimony, and I'm not a lawyer, but reversing the power of attorney sure seems like an easier legal path.
I don't know where you would find people with the proper credentials willing to take the time to give expert testimony, and I'm not a lawyer, but reversing the power of attorney sure seems like an easier legal path.
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It's very rare I read anything on forums that has the slightest impact on me, but that's a really horrible story
meg
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What is Dr. Quack's real name and location? Perhaps some of us could start researching, too, and see if we can come up with more information for you.
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Interesting. I thought Djinn were only in the Qur'an. And djinn are the same as imps? How do you know that?
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I'm not sure if this violates any legal issues but who is this quack ... can you link to Quackwatch if he's mentioned there?
Quite frankly people like that should be reported and their license, even chiropractic, revoked. Jail time would be nicer.. and well deserved.
On a more practical basis, I believe you have the makings of a private lawsuit against the "quack". Getting custody of your mother might be difficult but a lawsuit against the guy who is providing false medical advice has a possible financial gain that might get a lawyer interested in working for a percentage of the suit.
Quite frankly people like that should be reported and their license, even chiropractic, revoked. Jail time would be nicer.. and well deserved.
On a more practical basis, I believe you have the makings of a private lawsuit against the "quack". Getting custody of your mother might be difficult but a lawsuit against the guy who is providing false medical advice has a possible financial gain that might get a lawyer interested in working for a percentage of the suit.
I'm trying to get elder abuse to take a look. I so hate the thought of her sitting in that room all day and deteriorating.
I did talk to some of those attorneys who advertise on TV (and are eager for cases), but they need more damage than she has at this point. There's no proof that his taking her off blood pressure meds and selling her the crap he has caused her vascular dementia to get worse. Bottom line, nobody I've talked to would take the case against him, though they were very sympathetic.
I did talk to some of those attorneys who advertise on TV (and are eager for cases), but they need more damage than she has at this point. There's no proof that his taking her off blood pressure meds and selling her the crap he has caused her vascular dementia to get worse. Bottom line, nobody I've talked to would take the case against him, though they were very sympathetic.