What's your theory about 9/11?

Starving for Truth said:
I would just like to know why Frank so vehemently refuses to associate himself in any way with the no-plane/nanothermite WTC truth. Once we as a truth movement established the belief that no planes hit the WTC, controlled demolition logically becomes the ONLY possible way the towers could have fallen.

No-plane truth is the easiest way to prove the nanothermite truth.

What does Frank cover up?
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You know what makes an ever-so-amusing parody even funnier? If you keep the joke running long after everyone has grown tired of it.

Honestly, you've made your "point" and we've all been mighty amused by your stunning cleverness. Now, please do shut up.
 
FrankHT said:
Are you sure the training mission never happened? I think those F15 on that training mission were already up & saw the two alert status fighters scramble. Should I go get?
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Yes, I am quite sure this training flight never happened. Not one article I have read stated that it did happen. All the articles say the training mission was supposed to happen, or, it was scheduled to happen. There is no mention of this training mission ever taking off.

To think that these pilots on the training mission watched the alert aircraft take off is out there with the rest of your theories. You can’t even see Otis from W-105.
 
Is someone bringing up the "cavemen" thing again? Despite the fact that we're talking about a bunch of terrorists who were recruited out of European universities, some of them specifically for their education or training (Hanjour, re: pilots license)? For an organization led by a college educated man (Bin Laden) and a western-trained surgeon (al-Zawahiri)?

I mean, why post such drivel, unless in jest? It's so easily, trivially answered. These must be Poe trollings.
 
ElMondoHummus said:
Is someone bringing up the "cavemen" thing again? Despite the fact that we're talking about a bunch of terrorists who were recruited out of European universities, some of them specifically for their education or training (Hanjour, re: pilots license)? For an organization led by a college educated man (Bin Laden) and a western-trained surgeon (al-Zawahiri)?

I mean, why post such drivel, unless in jest? It's so easily, trivially answered. These must be Poe trollings.
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Just a bunch of college students with the desire to fly and die for a pie in the sky. I am now starting to believe that some of you really believe it. Besides, deliberate support for a cause using faulty arguments is the worst way of defending it. Nietzsche. Welcome to the truther movement. Donats will be served, and as for the liquor and stuff, we stay within reason, otherwise scientific knowledge tends to acquire fictional character. Holding on to brand new gravity laws is harder and so much more dangerous with a reefer in hand.
 
Mikeys said:
Just a bunch of college students with the desire to fly and die for a pie in the sky. I am now starting to believe that some of you really believe it. Besides, deliberate support for a cause using faulty arguments is the worst way of defending it. Nietzsche. Welcome to the truther movement. Donats will be served, and as for the liquor and stuff, we stay within reason, otherwise scientific knowledge tends to acquire fictional character. Holding on to brand new gravity laws is harder and so much more dangerous with a reefer in hand.
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After reading this post, I would say you have more than just a reefer in your hand.
 
Mikeys said:
Just a bunch of college students with the desire to fly and die for a pie in the sky. I am now starting to believe that some of you really believe it. Besides, deliberate support for a cause using faulty arguments is the worst way of defending it. Nietzsche. Welcome to the truther movement. Donats will be served, and as for the liquor and stuff, we stay within reason, otherwise scientific knowledge tends to acquire fictional character. Holding on to brand new gravity laws is harder and so much more dangerous with a reefer in hand.
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You never seem to directly answer questions put to you or statements that put your ideas into doubt. It's not a big deal, we understand that you have nothing, but at least try not to actually quote the statement you refuse to address if you're going to post idiocy in response.

It's the right thing to do.
 
twinstead said:
You never seem to directly answer questions put to you or statements that put your ideas into doubt. It's not a big deal, we understand that you have nothing, but at least try not to actually quote the statement you refuse to address if you're going to post idiocy in response.

It's the right thing to do.
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Who are we?
 
Mikeys said:
Just a bunch of college students with the desire to fly and die for a pie in the sky. I am now starting to believe that some of you really believe it. Besides, deliberate support for a cause using faulty arguments is the worst way of defending it. Nietzsche. Welcome to the truther movement. Donats will be served, and as for the liquor and stuff, we stay within reason, otherwise scientific knowledge tends to acquire fictional character. Holding on to brand new gravity laws is harder and so much more dangerous with a reefer in hand.
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Weeeellll.... not quite as good a Poe as Starving for Truth, nor even close to a Telltale Tom. I mean... it feels more like those posts fill a checklist of how a truther writes rather than having a real feel for it.

Don't get me wrong; it's not terrible. It's just not quite there yet. Look up some of the CIT posters from the past. That will give you a good feel for how to make a truther-like claim about the hijackers.
 
Mikeys said:
Just a bunch of college students with the desire to fly and die for a pie in the sky. I am now starting to believe that some of you really believe it. Besides, deliberate support for a cause using faulty arguments is the worst way of defending it. Nietzsche. Welcome to the truther movement. Donats will be served, and as for the liquor and stuff, we stay within reason, otherwise scientific knowledge tends to acquire fictional character. Holding on to brand new gravity laws is harder and so much more dangerous with a reefer in hand.
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Do you have a mustache? I promise I will never call you stupid.

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fess said:
Let’s see, three of us. Does that make a we, or are we still an us?
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Well, if the four of us shared a roller coaster car, we could be a "Wheeeeee!"

But then, if we all get together for video games for Nintendo, we might be a "Wii"
 
TSR said:
Well, if the four of us shared a roller coaster car, we could be a "Wheeeeee!"

But then, if we all get together for video games for Nintendo, we might be a "Wii"
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Small home based family business. Very nice.
 
Spanx said:
Hi FrankHT

You seem to be very knowledgeable about the air defence mechanism before the 911 attacks.

Could you answer one question for me.

Was their training based around watching an air strike appear from out side U.S air space or appear from within U.S air space.

Answers relating to before the 911 attacks please.
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Bump for frankHT
 
carlitos said:
I agree with the findings of the 9/11 Commission, and the additional information I have read like Lawrence Wright's excellent The Looming Tower. Al Qaeda planned, financed and conducted a terrorist attack on the United States on September 11, 2001, by simultaneously hijacking 4 aircraft and crashing them into 3 out of 4 of their targets. The 4th jet was crashed to the ground once the passengers figured out what was going on. The World Trade Center 1 & 2 suffered structural damage due to plane impact and fires and collapsed. WTC 7 suffered damage from being struck by WTC debris and fire and collapsed.

Here is a thread where those who believe alternative explanations can post their best theory. Post your theory as to who / what / when / how the attacks of 11-September, 2001 were planned, financed and executed.

PLEASE DO NOT JUST 'ASK QUESTIONS' IN THIS THREAD. Post your theory, or the alternative theory that you find most credible.
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http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/09/13/100913fa_fact_mcdermott


Close, but no cigar.

Hi carlitos, :cool:

Technically, it was not an Al Qaeda Operation.


.........June, 2002, when U.S. officials first identified Mohammed as the “mastermind” of 9/11, he has become one of history’s most famous criminals. Yet, unlike Osama bin Laden, he has remained essentially unknown........In at least one important way, though, his boasts are accurate. Mohammed, not Osama bin Laden, was the essential figure in the 9/11 plot. The attacks were his idea, carried out under his direct command. Mohammed has said that he went so far as to resist swearing allegiance to bin Laden and Al Qaeda until after the attacks, so that he could continue pursuing them if Al Qaeda lost courage.

The United States intends to try Mohammed, in a venue and a jurisdiction yet to be determined...............................Bin Laden had just returned to Afghanistan, having been expelled from Sudan at America’s insistence. In the seven years since Al Qaeda began, in Peshawar, he had greatly expanded the organization’s scope and ambition, and he was now preparing a fatwa to declare war against the United States.

Mohammed’s initial proposal was to hijack a single airplane and crash it, as Abdul Murad had suggested, into C.I.A. headquarters. Bin Laden dismissed this target as inconsequential. So Mohammed proposed hijacking ten airliners in the United States, some on each coast. The plotters would crash nine of them, and Mohammed would triumphantly land the tenth, disembark, and give a speech explaining what he had done and why. Bin Laden thought that the plan was too complicated. It was not until late 1999 that he approved a somewhat less ambitious proposal: the 9/11 plan.

The idea was distinguished largely by its simplicity. It required pilots, and teams of men able to overwhelm defenseless air crews. It required money and the ability to move it around the globe. And it required willing suicide bombers—of whom, Mohammed has said, there was a surplus. By far the biggest difficulty was finding volunteers who could legally enter the United States. In two years, Mohammed was able to insert just nineteen men into the plot...........................He delegated the details of the plot—which flights, what day, the makeup of the hit teams—to Atta, who communicated his decisions to Mohammed through bin al-Shibh, mainly using coded e-mail exchanges and Internet chat rooms.............................Mohammed told investigators that bin Laden urged him several times to hurry up the attacks. He refused, waiting until the summer of 2001, when Atta told him the attack teams were set; in the meantime, he insulated the hijackers from bin Laden’s impatience. He also allowed Atta to overrule bin Laden’s choice of the White House as one of the targets—Atta thought it was too difficult—and substituted the Capitol.......................In late August, Mohammed travelled to Afghanistan to inform bin Laden personally of the date of the attacks, then returned to Pakistan.......................His capture likely owed something to the technical capacities of American surveillance, but the big break came by the oldest of means: betrayal. The U.S. had offered a twenty-five-million-dollar reward for Mohammed’s capture, and a cousin tipped off authorities about his location....................................Bin Laden’s main contributions to 9/11 were money and volunteers. Almost all the money was for living and travel expenses. This was not inconsequential, but terrorism is cheap. It doesn’t require huge numbers of people, elaborate infrastructure, or great technical skill. That is its advantage over the weapons and defenses of a modern, sophisticated state.
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