The crucifixion of Jesus Christ

[PeaceCrusader]

And do your work for you ? No.

@Belz..., #77

If you think that you will be scrutinizing the results for me, I say no. The results are very long. So whatever interest you and find that is amiss, raise them. But since you will not, I will present the results one by one.

 

[PeaceCrusader]

But what are your sources for the birth and crucifixion of Jesus? What sources outside the Bible record either of these things happening?

@godless dave, #78

The spirit of Ama is the primary source of the dates. He revealed the May 23 birth and August 17 crucifixion dates of Jesus Christ which I heard from old members in 1983 when I first went to the session place in Metro Manila. I just used the Holy Bible, moon phase calculator of Stellafane, calendar converters of Corre and Forsythe, Jewish calendar, Jewish traditions, Flavius Josephus in my study from 1999 to 2003.

 

[Weak Kitten]

When I find myself in a crisis situation, I ask myself, "What would Scooby do?" and then I run!

I like to think "What Would Leroy Jenkins Do?" Then I do the opposite.

 

[RenaissanceBiker]

In the story that the spirit of Ama related, Jesus Christ when He was twelve created Pontius Pilate like Him [Jesus] out of clay called “pila” and breathed into it the breath of life. So Pontius Pilate was a "golem". He was given to the new Roman Emperor Tiberius Caesar who adopted him. When he was about 26 years of age, Tiberius Caesar appointed him as Prefect of Judea.

It seems that you will believe anything this woman tells you.

 

[AdMan]

The spirit of Ama is the primary source of the dates.

We know that Ka Apaz/"Ama" is a liar and a false prophet. Why should we take anything that she says seriously?

 

[I Ratant]

@Belz..., #77

If you think that you will be scrutinizing the results for me, I say no. The results are very long. So whatever interest you and find that is amiss, raise them. But since you will not, I will present the results one by one.

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No, that's all right. #80 is so bizarre that no rational person is going to pay any attention to what you pull out.
You should stay from moving machinery and sharp objects... it's pretty obvious you will injure yourself.

 

[godless dave]

@godless dave, #78

The spirit of Ama is the primary source of the dates. He revealed the May 23 birth and August 17 crucifixion dates of Jesus Christ which I heard from old members in 1983 when I first went to the session place in Metro Manila. I just used the Holy Bible, moon phase calculator of Stellafane, calendar converters of Corre and Forsythe, Jewish calendar, Jewish traditions, Flavius Josephus in my study from 1999 to 2003.

So no sources a historian would accept, then.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

It seems that you will believe anything this woman tells you.

It's frankly hilarious that PC is trying to convince us of something thoroughly unlikely (that the Jews used a purely lunar calendar) by asking us to swallow something infinitely more bizzarre and ridiculous (that a living clay monster built by the 12 year old Jesus was appointed Roman governer of Judea).

You can't deny the audacity of his argument. But nor can you imagine a single person ever taking it seriously.

 

[Nay_Sayer]

@godless dave, #78

The spirit of Ama is the primary source of the dates. He revealed the May 23 birth and August 17 crucifixion dates of Jesus Christ which I heard from old members in 1983 when I first went to the session place in Metro Manila. I just used the Holy Bible, moon phase calculator of Stellafane, calendar converters of Corre and Forsythe, Jewish calendar, Jewish traditions, Flavius Josephus in my study from 1999 to 2003.

In the year 2525 if man is still alive:

Kazama (as they are the same person) is a fraud. This has been proven and then some.

 

[AlBell]

Schliemann discovered Troy, so the Iliad is true. So the Olympian gods exist! Anyone want to organise an expedition to find Baker Street?

No expedition needed; IIRC 9 Baker St. has (or at least had) a Holmes tribute resaturant.

 

[Akuma Tennou]

@pakeha, #75

In the story that the spirit of Ama related, Jesus Christ when He was twelve created Pontius Pilate like Him [Jesus] out of clay called “pila” and breathed into it the breath of life. So Pontius Pilate was a "golem". He was given to the new Roman Emperor Tiberius Caesar who adopted him. When he was about 26 years of age, Tiberius Caesar appointed him as Prefect of Judea.

The following Jewish festivals were in the purely lunar calendar and the date celebrated: Feast of the Dedication, 15th day of the seventh month; Passover, 14th day of the first month; Feast of Unleavened Bread (Pesach), 15th-21st of the first month. In 4 BC, 3 BC, 2 BC and 1 BC, these festivals were celebrated on the following dates: Dedication – Adar 15, 3757 (March 11, 4 BC); Adar 15, 3758 (March 1, 3 BC); Adar 15, 3759 (February 19, 2 BC); and Shevat 15, 3760 (February 8, 1 BC); all in winter confirming John 10:22; Passover and Feast of Unleavened Bread – Elul 14-21, 3757 (September 3-10, 4 BC); Elul 14-21, 3758 (August 23-30, 3 BC); Av 14-21, 3759 (August 13-20, 2 BC); and Av 14-21, 3760 (August 1-8, 1 BC).

Jesus was not crucified during Passover but after when the pilgrims have left the city.

waw, jesus doing kabbalah magic are you serious? he should be excommunicated!

 

[Astreja]

Aristeo, do you have any supporting primary historical sources for your assertions? That means no quotations from "Ama" and no quotations from the Bible, and no hearsay or derivative writings from non-contemporaneous sources.

In other words, we want non-Biblical writings from genuine eye witnesses who were actually physically present for the events in question. Got any?

 

[pakeha]

...In the story that the spirit of Ama related, Jesus Christ when He was twelve created Pontius Pilate like Him [Jesus] out of clay called “pila” and breathed into it the breath of life. So Pontius Pilate was a "golem". He was given to the new Roman Emperor Tiberius Caesar who adopted him. When he was about 26 years of age, Tiberius Caesar appointed him as Prefect of Judea.

The following Jewish festivals were in the purely lunar calendar and the date celebrated: Feast of the Dedication, 15th day of the seventh month; Passover, 14th day of the first month; Feast of Unleavened Bread (Pesach), 15th-21st of the first month. In 4 BC, 3 BC, 2 BC and 1 BC, these festivals were celebrated on the following dates: Dedication – Adar 15, 3757 (March 11, 4 BC); Adar 15, 3758 (March 1, 3 BC); Adar 15, 3759 (February 19, 2 BC); and Shevat 15, 3760 (February 8, 1 BC); all in winter confirming John 10:22; Passover and Feast of Unleavened Bread – Elul 14-21, 3757 (September 3-10, 4 BC); Elul 14-21, 3758 (August 23-30, 3 BC); Av 14-21, 3759 (August 13-20, 2 BC); and Av 14-21, 3760 (August 1-8, 1 BC).

Jesus was not crucified during Passover but after when the pilgrims have left the city.

PC, do you really have any reason to believe a Roman governor was actually a golem who grew up, married and died?
Given to Augustus Tiberius, who adopted him?
Is this a joke?

 

[Astreja]

PC, do you really have any reason to believe a Roman governor was actually a golem who grew up, married and died?
Given to Augustus Tiberius, who adopted him?
Is this a joke?

I'm beginning to suspect that the joke is on us, and that our interlocutor with the bizarre website is, um, taking the micturate.

 

[Robrob]

@Robrob, #56

We must consider that before Christianity, the Greeks had been worshipping mythological gods and goddesses in the Greek Pantheon. It will be up to us to decide which ones we are to pick out or discard.

1) You really need to learn how to use the "quote" feature.

2) Your logic works just as well validating their pantheon. Why do you pick and chose when your logic applies?

3) Strange you can answer so many other questions but avoid the obvious?

When are you going to get around to stoning Ama as you are commanded to by God?

 

[Akuma Tennou]

PC, do you really have any reason to believe a Roman governor was actually a golem who grew up, married and died?
Given to Augustus Tiberius, who adopted him?
Is this a joke?

now that i think of it, it makes sense. remember how adam was created twice in genesis? it's a clear reference to pilate!

 

[PeaceCrusader]

1) You really need to learn how to use the "quote" feature.

2) Your logic works just as well validating their pantheon. Why do you pick and chose when your logic applies?

3) Strange you can answer so many other questions but avoid the obvious?

When are you going to get around to stoning Ama as you are commanded to by God?

@Robrob, #95

Since you are knowledgeable about the “quote” feature, could you please tell me how to use it?

How about if I tell you that I will discard ALL the gods and goddesses in the Greek pantheon? They have eyes that can not see. They have ears that can not hear. They have mouths that can not speak. They have noses that can not smell. They have feet that can not walk. They are statues only.

There are so many questions to answer and I am the only one answering them. I tell you that usually I answer only the last questions. If I have time, I may answer further back.

It seems that you now understand that Ka Apaz is different from the spirit of Ama, am I correct? How can you stone a spirit? I tell you that we can not see Him or touch Him but we can hear Him and talk to Him and record on tape our sessions with Him.

The revelations of the dates were from Ama. I did not get them from thin air. I just checked them out from 1999 to 2006. Did you know that had I proven that the revelations are incorrect, I would have retracted my belief in Ama?

 

[fromdownunder]

Did you know that had I proven that the revelations are incorrect, I would have retracted my belief in Ama?

No you would not have retracted your belief, bacuase you said the exact same thing about your prediction that the Olympics would not be held. And then you kept believing anyway, despite the Olympics (and the Winter Olympics) both occuring without 4 Billion people being blown away by Atomic Weapons, and without a Chinese Army invading the Phillippines.

I can't believe anything you say, as you have proven to be an untrustworthy liar.

Norm

 

[Mashuna]

How about if I tell you that I will discard ALL the gods and goddesses in the Greek pantheon? They have eyes that can not see. They have ears that can not hear. They have mouths that can not speak. They have noses that can not smell. They have feet that can not walk. They are statues only.

You're getting closer. Now just discard all the other Gods and Goddesses.

 

[Agatha]

Aristeo, do you have any supporting primary historical sources for your assertions? That means no quotations from "Ama" and no quotations from the Bible, and no hearsay or derivative writings from non-contemporaneous sources.

In other words, we want non-Biblical writings from genuine eye witnesses who were actually physically present for the events in question. Got any?

Could you please address this, PeaceCrusader.