DavidJames
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Yup, the current mainstream base of the Republican party.
Romney, Obama, Rasmussen
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Tricky
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I see Newsweek has called it for Obama. Their current cover reads "What Obama Will Address in His Second Term".
sir drinks-a-lot
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What's that quote...something along the lines that you can't use reason to convince someone against a position that they did not arrive at by the use of reason.
So, yeah, I don't think I'll be able to convince most of the Obama supporters.
sir drinks-a-lot
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They're not calling it for Obama. They're stating what Obama would address in his second term, in their opinion.
NotJesus
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Insulting one-liners don't count as "reason."
Tricky
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What's the quote... "There are none so blind as those who will not see," so yeah, I don't expect to convince many Romney supporters.
Wasn't that a satifying exchange of views?
sir drinks-a-lot
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Wasn't that a satifying exchange of views?
Not particularly, but it gives support to my answer to Robrob about why I couldn't convince the electorate.
RandFan
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Do you think you can convince the Republicans?
15% of Republicans believe Romney killed Bin Laden. 63% of Republicans Still Believe Iraq Had WMD, 64% Obama Born in Kenya
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Shalamar
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They are voting for the guy on the right, not necessarily for the right guy. All that matters is the (R) next to his name.
Perhaps he'll even start outlining what he plans to do should h become elected? That would be a good start.
Tricky
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Convince them that a lot of stuff that many of them believe is obviously and provably untrue.
But it's okay to have your positions based on lies so long as your "voting for the right guy", eh?
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The truth of just about anything?
- That Obama wasn't born in Kenya.
- That Iraq never had WMD.
Are they? And you would know that someone like Romney, someone who has few if any principles and has been on every side of nearly issue is the right guy because?
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sir drinks-a-lot
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If someone is voting for my candidate, I don't really care if they're doing it for reasons that are different than mine, or if they believe things I don't believe.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot
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Luckily, it's becoming increasingly clear that despite their way-too-high number, there aren't enough idiots for Romney to win.
sir drinks-a-lot
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Wow, this is getting downright bizarre. You post the text "15% of Republicans believe Romney killed Bin Laden" that links to a blog post titled Do 15% of Ohio Republicans think Romney killed bin Laden? Probably not.
Then you ask me to start trying to convince "Republicans" that Obama wasn't born in Kenya.
What exactly are you trying to accomplish?
RandFan
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My bad. And the others?
- That Obama wasn't born in Kenya.
- That Iraq never had WMD.
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On what basis do you determine that Romney is "the right guy"?
sir drinks-a-lot
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Again. What's your point? Some Romney supporters think that Obama was born in Kenya. Some Romney supporters think that Iraq had/has WMD. SOme Romney supporters believe that the Earth is less than 6,000 years old. Some Romney supporters are criminals, etc...
Agreed.
BenBurch
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I have a message for you from the majority of Americans; you are invited to find another country where the electorate is more to your taste. May I suggest Russia?