iPhone 5

[Aidoneus]

Lightning was developed by Intel, as a new generation USB port capable of carrying high definition video to multiple monitors on a single cable. It makes sense to do this, and I hope that, just like USB, it will be an open standard that helps advance technology for everyone, and is not dumbed down into an Apple only closed world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderbolt_(interface)

Note once again, this is not the result of Apple genius, but of the hard work being done by scientists and engineers from another company.

The Lightning connector in the iPhone 5 has nothing to do with Intel.

 

[This is The End]

Fixing the broken link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderbolt_(interface)

 

[This is The End]

The Lightning connector in the iPhone 5 has nothing to do with Intel.

I don't know if that is true one way or the other. But I do know that Apple has been using and plugging Intel Thunderbolt on the new iMacs.

 

[tyr_13]

Not to plug, but you guys have great prices!

Anyone who gets their phone or upgrade from a "real" brick&morter AT&T or Verizon store and not from the Wal-Mart phone desk is getting ripped off!

Way lower prices, even on brand new phone versions sometimes.

I worded that poorly. I work at Sam's Club at both wireless and electronics and have never worked at Wal-Mart proper. Wal-Mart and Sam's Club are the same company though, so I do work for Wal-Mart Stores Inc.

Still great prices though. We don't get commission, and the prices of the phones are consistently fifty to one hundred dollars below the carrier stores. That is except for the Apple devices of course.

 

[Vermonter]

Well, I took the plunge. iPhone 5 ordered this morning! I'll let you all know what I think next week when it comes in.

 

[This is The End]

We don't get commission, and the prices of the phones are consistently fifty to one hundred dollars below the carrier stores.

Exactly. I don't know why everyone doesn't upgrade there, there's no reason not to.

That is except for the Apple devices of course.

Of course. And apple wouldn't have it any other way. Just like they don't allow a 3rd party cord adapter for the new i5.

 

[kajata]

Lightning was developed by Intel, as a new generation USB port capable of carrying high definition video to multiple monitors on a single cable. It makes sense to do this, and I hope that, just like USB, it will be an open standard that helps advance technology for everyone, and is not dumbed down into an Apple only closed world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderbolt_(interface)

Note once again, this is not the result of Apple genius, but of the hard work being done by scientists and engineers from another company.

Note you're wrong.

Thunderbolt and Lighting are two different things. Lightning is a result of the hard work that was done by scientists and engineers at Apple.

 

[chulbert]

It is from a certain distance away. 10 inches or something off the top of my head.

I'm near-sited. I want it to have no visible pixels with my nose on it!

So, yes, there is plenty of room for improvement on pixel density.

Oh for crying out loud. I appreciate your situation and I would agree with something a little more even-handed but c'mon.

 

[chulbert]

I read that article on cnet as well about the 'ho hum' era of smart phones and I disagree to a degree. The SIII had plenty of wow. So did the Razr and Razr Maxx. The Razr MaxxHD seems like an incremental improvement though. The Note II seems to have TONS of wow on tap, although that could just be hype in some cases.

Granting that the screens are higher resolution than the human eye (is that really true?), there are other aspects of the screen that can certainly wow. A higher contrast, better in sun performance, more color, faster response times, flexibility...there are more to displays than the pixel density/count.

Then there is augmented reality integration besides gimick apps. How about the ability for the camera to look at a printed calendar or time sheet and update the appointments list? The SIII learns your face. What about wireless charging. Apple would be the perfect company to make that big if they wanted to. Star Trek isn't mined out yet for ideas.

The iPhone 5 has several of those things. However, it turns out there's not much wow in 44% better color saturation.

I think we're just going to agree to disagree on this but I will say one more thing -- Apple rarely takes a stab-in-the-dark approach to new features.

 

[Furcifer]

See what I did there ? For almost a decade, the same thing was true of apple. In fact, I thought most phones had moved to micro USB. And any new phone that takes more than 500 ma really won't always charge off any old USB port.

I think the Crack Berry adopted the micro while most others use the mini. But again, the micro to mini adapter is $1 and sold just about everywhere. Apple has gone in another, more costly to the consumer direction yet again it seems.

I'll say this, the first company to go completely wireless will get my money. I'm approaching critical mass when it comes to wall chargers.

 

[merentha]

I think the Crack Berry adopted the micro while most others use the mini.

Every major non-Apple smartphone, including the Blackberry, should be using the microUSB charging ports by now. A god-send for minimizing cable spaghetti since I have to carry along the office blackberry for work on top of my personal S3. Also makes it easy to nick a charger from colleagues when I forgot mine.

 

[a_unique_person]

The microUSB is just too small and fragile, with the 'key' not being distinct enough, leading to an inability to plug one in without checking the orientation visually. I prefer the more durable MiniUSB, and it only takes up a fraction more space.

 

[Dan O.]

Apple has taken the standards route in the past. FireWire comes to mind as one example. Intel stole part of FireWire and created the "Unused Serial Bus" (USB) as it's own desktop device connection standard. Apple endorsed the USB standard with the introduction of the iMac, telling the world that USB was good and here to stay.

But now it's time for something better. Is Lightning going to be that next standard?

We are leaving behind the era of having one smart computer and a bunch of dumb peripherals. When you plug a phone into a computer, which one should be in charge of the connection? FireWire provided peer to peer connections. There could be multiple masters on the bus at the same time each doing their own thing. USB lost that ability but it wasn't needed at the time. Is Lightning the next generation of the FireWire bus?

 

[tyr_13]

The iPhone 5 has several of those things. However, it turns out there's not much wow in 44% better color saturation.

I think we're just going to agree to disagree on this but I will say one more thing -- Apple rarely takes a stab-in-the-dark approach to new features.

Wait, does it really have 44% better color saturation? Which measure are they using? That would should be pretty impressive to see.

Yes, Apple usually refines and polishes to the Nth degree rather than does anything super daring. Now they often pull off stuff that seems daring, but actually has a lot of research and planning behind it.

I can agree to disagree on design philosophy. I do wish I had more Apple stuff to sell.

 

[chulbert]

Wait, does it really have 44% better color saturation? Which measure are they using? That would should be pretty impressive to see.

So it claims. Here's an article:

http://www.zdnet.com/an-analysis-of-apples-new-iphone-5-display-7000004286/

We won't have hard numbers until people get their hands on them.

 

[TheL8Elvis]

More proof that you didn't read the links. If you can combine all the iPhone versions into one, why can't we combine the Samsung phone versions into one? It's a sad trick, and its the only way you could even get close to getting your numbers to work.

Samsung phones have at least double the market share of iPhone phones.
It's not even close.
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Apple is the leading smartphone manufactureer in the US.

How you can keep saying samsung is beyond me.



Can you read the chart above ????

Apple has 34% of the US smartphone market. Samsung has 17%.

Did you mean to say apple has double samsung ?

 

[tyr_13]

Got any numbers on the total market share? Apple doesn't make a non-smart phone but Samsung sells a lot of phones like the Convey II and Rugby II. The non-smart phone market isn't completely gone and Samsung is a full phone line manufacturer.

 

[TheL8Elvis]

Got any numbers on the total market share? Apple doesn't make a non-smart phone but Samsung sells a lot of phones like the Convey II and Rugby II. The non-smart phone market isn't completely gone and Samsung is a full phone line manufacturer.

I do not. I could probably find some if you really wanted. Samsung sells quite a few non-smart phones. I'll bet Nokia still does as well.

ETA: I've tried to be clear in what I am asserting. US & smart phone. This is getting off-topic at this point, I'm just a bit dumb-founded that someone can keep insisting that samsung doubles apple in US smartphone share.

 

[tyr_13]

I do not. I could probably find some if you really wanted. Samsung sells quite a few non-smart phones. I'll bet Nokia still does as well.

ETA: I've tried to be clear in what I am asserting. US & smart phone. This is getting off-topic at this point, I'm just a bit dumb-founded that someone can keep insisting that samsung doubles apple in US smartphone share.

That's fine, I was honestly just curious.

 

[This is The End]

I've tried to be clear in what I am asserting. US & smart phone. This is getting off-topic at this point, I'm just a bit dumb-founded that someone can keep insisting that samsung doubles apple in US smartphone share.

Wow.

I'm the one that brought this up. In post number three:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8611639#post8611639

Anyway I wanted to check my numbers <snip>


Here's an article from 3 days ago. I was very nearly spot on:

http://money.cnn.com/2012/08/08/technology/smartphone-market-share/

Google's Android surged to a whopping 68% share of the global smartphone market last quarter. That's four times the 17% market share held by Apple, according to a Wednesday report from research firm IDC.

More specifically, IDC pegged Android's gain "directly" to Samsung, which represented 44% of all Android phones shipped during the quarter. That's more than the next seven Android vendors combined, IDC said. Samsung's Galaxy S III debuted late in the quarter to favorable reviews.

Which clearly shows that the top Samsung smart phones (at 30%) almost double the Apple smart phone market share (at 17%) worldwide.

If I missed you later moving the goalposts to US only, I apologize.

It wouldn't surprise me considering the straw attack you made against that post earlier in this thread. A goalpost move after that should be expected.

This is exactly like in a thread a year or two ago when it was being discussed that Apple is not even a player on the worldwide PC OS market. With PC market share of less than five percent, they weren't even included in most lists.

To which many Apple enthusiasts pleaded "Oh but in the US they have 10%!".

I suppose we should check the stats for Europe now?