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Vaccine/autism CT discussion

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Most of the comments are too stupid to reply to. The video links I've supplied explain the problems with and the possible consequences of vaccines.

The most moronic are those that insist there are no problems with vaccines.

It's obvious that the people of my generation are healthier than subsequent generations. As in Asthma.

The human body is a complex operation. You can't expect it to react to injection of disease in the same manner as ingestion or inhalation.

Vaccines are pot luck. There is no chain of custody. Even the so called "normal/acceptable" reactions to vaccines such as fever or seizures should scream "danger Will Robinson."

The biggest problem with vaccines is that the healthiest children and the least healthy children are required to get them.

There is no health threshold test.

Plus there is no benchmark that regularly measures the heath of a child. Which means the medical community has no idea whether their vaccine mania is to the detriment/weakening the species.
 
You don't like vaccines, great, we get it. But you know what sucks even worse than an unspecified chance that some unspecified vaccines can cause some unspecified problems in an unspecified segment of the population? All the disease that vaccines protect against.
 
TheRedWorm said:
You don't like vaccines, great, we get it. But you know what sucks even worse than an unspecified chance that some unspecified vaccines can cause some unspecified problems in an unspecified segment of the population? All the disease that vaccines protect against.
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The uneducated think medicine is to prevent disease.


Medicine is to cure disease.


Bottom line? Stupidity is contagious.

Many on this thread have said that increase of autism in children is merely improved diagnosis. That is plain stupidity. Those same stupid people believe that questioning vaccines is the same as killing children. Those same stupid people and the overwhelming majority here believe that the world's science/medical community can't figure out how more than 1 out of 100 1 1/2 year old toddlers are becoming autistic. Birds of a feather.

Thousands and thousands of parents have said that their child was fine until the child got an MMR shot.

Do you believe the parents or corporations standing to lose 100s of millions of dollars?
 
Why do I have to believe one or the other? I'd rather believe the evidence. Which your argument again lacks.
 
On what Planet does Medicine not supply preventative measures?

preventative medicine is the most effective kind as it saves lives and resources.
 
Clayton Moore said:
The uneducated think medicine is to prevent disease.


Medicine is to cure disease.
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You're not quite right there. The uneducated think that medicine will fix it when there is a problem without even thinking that medicine could have prevented it in the first place.

Look at malaria. Medicine has no cure, but it has some form of offering prevention of the disease in the form of a vaccination.


Clayton Moore said:
Bottom line? Stupidity is contagious.
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By some of the comments I have seen left on various websites and YT videos, it certainly is.

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Many on this thread have said that increase of autism in children is merely improved diagnosis. That is plain stupidity.
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Is this an opinion based on medical fact, or is it true that doctors are now more effective in recognising the condition, rather than like in the days of old when the family doctor and the parents would put down symptoms to shyness, mollycoddling and other rather non-medical terms?

Clayton MooreThose same stupid people believe that questioning vaccines is the same as killing children.[/quote said:
Do you doubt the efficacy of the polio vaccine? Many in wheelchairs and leg irons down your way?

Clayton Moore said:
Those same stupid people and the overwhelming majority here believe that the world's science/medical community can't figure out how more than 1 out of 100 1 1/2 year old toddlers are becoming autistic. Birds of a feather.
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The CDC are investigating, and looking at all probable causes. It takes a lot of time and research. Just deciding it must be vaccinations is not even science. You may as well claim it's tv's, satellites or microwave ovens.


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Thousands and thousands of parents have said that their child was fine until the child got an MMR shot.
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Are these thousands and thousands of parents medical experts? Did these children wake up the next day autistic, or are they perhaps jumping on the the anti-vax bandwagon because they feel angry their child has the condition, and are looking for something or someone to blame?


Clayton Moore said:
Do you believe the parents or corporations standing to lose 100s of millions of dollars?
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I believe the evidence, as supplied by sensible and unbiased science. And certainly not anything as supplied by the University of YouTube.
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Are people who beleive every piece of cod ct rubbish they alight upon experts?
 
It is english do you beleive every piece of cod rubbish servered up by conspiracy theorists you can unearth?

As opposed to reading peer reviewed science?
 
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Do they need to be? It's like asking are folks who go to report an illness to their MD physicians.
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When parents take their toddler to the emergency ward or the doctors they provide the details and patient history.

When parent after parent says their precious toddler regressed into autism after getting an MMR shot they are not credible because they aren't medical professionals?
 
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When parents take their toddler to the emergency ward or the doctors they provide the details and patient history.

When parent after parent says their precious toddler regressed into autism after getting an MMR shot they are not credible because they aren't medical professionals?
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Once again more rubbish, you cannot regress into autism you get the condition and you will not get it from the MMR vaccine that particualr nonesense has long since been shown to be the dangerous idiocy it always was.
 
Clayton Moore said:
Most of the comments are too stupid to reply to. ...
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I love it when sophists dodge simple, pertinent questions over and over, and then when they finally address it, they just hand-wave them as stupid.

I love that you lot think that fools anyone.

Clayton Moore said:
The uneducated think medicine is to prevent disease.


Medicine is to cure disease.
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Which is why Asprin makers like to tout how their product lowers the risk of heart disease, right?

Bottom line? Stupidity is contagious.

Many on this thread have said that increase of autism in children is merely improved diagnosis. That is plain stupidity.
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Or it would be, if anyone had actually said that. The rate of autism diagnosis has gone up because we are better at identifying it. Just like it's easier to identify brain tumors because we have CAT scans and MRIs now.

Those same stupid people believe that questioning vaccines is the same as killing children.
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Another straw man. Vaccines provably save lives. Therefore, withholding them kills people, especially children, who would otherwise live.

Those same stupid people and the overwhelming majority here believe that the world's science/medical community can't figure out how more than 1 out of 100 1 1/2 year old toddlers are becoming autistic.
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Again, false. Genetics are suspected, but it requires testing and studies and that "scientific method" stuff you so disdain.

Birds of a feather.

Thousands and thousands of parents have said that their child was fine until the child got an MMR shot.
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That's apophenia. Unless there's actual medical evidence of a causal link - and all reputable studies suggest precisely the opposite - then it doesn't matter what parents think is the cause. Thousands of people wear their lucky jersey because they're afraid their favorite team will lose. Does that mean that what they think is correct?

Do you believe the parents or corporations standing to lose 100s of millions of dollars?
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False binary. I believe in the doctors and the evidence.

So yeah. Just about every sentence in that post is wrong.
 
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