Are the crucifixion nails of Jesus in Europe?

[PeaceCrusader]

PC, let me ask: do you believe Enkidu really existed?

If not, why not?

20120907.2310

@devnull, #290

This is the first time that I heard about Enkidu. I went to your Wikipedia link and browsed through it.

I check what the spirit of Ama says. If it is in the Holy Bible, then most likely, I will believe it. The Holy Bible is my reference. If it is not, or contradicts with what is, in the Bible, then I checked if it is logically correct.

 

[Mojo]

Marcial: The fifth is INRI.

Nonsense. The eighth was 'Enri.

 

[devnull]

20120907.2310

@devnull, #290

This is the first time that I heard about Enkidu. I went to your Wikipedia link and browsed through it.

I check what the spirit of Ama says. If it is in the Holy Bible, then most likely, I will believe it. The Holy Bible is my reference. If it is not, or contradicts with what is, in the Bible, then I checked if it is logically correct.

It is not in the bible. It is from the Epic of Gilgamesh. The Epic of Gilgamesh is much older than your bible.

 

[PeaceCrusader]

Does that mean he also got married at Cana while carrying his own head? (I'm not clear about the chronology of these things.) That would have been worth seeing. No wonder Mary was worried about the wine at the wedding feast. The idea of a disembodied head drinking wine is a rather startling and disquieting one. Messy too, probably. Maybe the Sons of Thunder could have helped with the cleaning.

20120907.2315

@Craig B, #298

John the Baptist was not beheaded yet when he was wed.

After John the Baptist baptized Jesus at the Jordan River, he became a believer and follower of Jesus. Chapter 2 of the gospel of John tells about the wedding at Cana. Note that it is only in this gospel where this wedding is cited. Why? Because the gospel was from his notes only and not in the gospels of Matthew, Mark, and Luke.

The beheading of John the Baptist are in Matthew 14:1-12; Mark 6:14-29; and Luke 9:7-9.

 

[devnull]

Four nails for Jesus

Alvara Cabalda: Ama, what is the position of Your two feet when You were crucified?
Ama: In my butt.
Marcial Aguila: Not on top of the other [foot]?
Ama: No.
Alvara: On top of the other [foot]?
Ama: No. I put them in my butt. I had an itch. No bastard would scratch it for me.
Listener: This is Passion [“Pasiong Mahal”] already.
Marcial: The fifth is coated in fecal matter?
Ama: The fifth was in my colon. Sort of a practical joke. I used to do it as a party trick before.
Marcial: Your cross, Ama, You raised to Heaven with the Blessed Mary?
Ama: Yeh baby. Blessed Mary and I were a bit wild. She took me to heaven more than once. S&M FTW.
Marcial: Until now, is the cross still there, Ama?
Ama: Together with the cross of S&M, four nails, a billy goat.... several large pairs of scissors...... Yes. They are all still in my ass.
Marcial: There are many who are here who do not know the names of the positions.
Ama: “Prepram Anacnom” (touch your toes), “Sumaclorde” (behind a horse), “Nasarte Rasion” (in your brother-in-law's van), “Salbuluray Cabaladoc” (cranium in rectum).
Marcial: Where are those places? For example, the first. Was that used to nail the pretty blonde?
Ama: No, the bar maid first.
Marcial: Bar maid. Then, Ama?
Ama: Mate's little sister. Then that girl from work. Then the drunk dude from the YMCA. These nails went to anus, rectum, colon, and ileum.

 

[Craig B]

20120907.2315

@Craig B, #298

John the Baptist was not beheaded yet when he was wed.

I am greatly reassured to learn that.

 

[hurdygurdy]

John the Baptist was not beheaded yet when he was wed.

I know it's a waste of time, but let's try anyway. John the Baptist was beheaded five years before Jesus' crucifixion. Was he beheaded when he witnessed the crucifixion and when he wrote the gospel?

 

[tsig]

It's perfectly logical that John the Baptist witnessed the crucifixion and wrote the gospel while carrying his own head, as logical as the four nails that became thirteen. Remember: don't believe your eyes, they are secondary to the mind.

Actually J the B saw Salome and lost his head over her.

 

[tsig]

Does that mean he also got married at Cana while carrying his own head? (I'm not clear about the chronology of these things.) That would have been worth seeing. No wonder Mary was worried about the wine at the wedding feast. The idea of a disembodied head drinking wine is a rather startling and disquieting one. Messy too, probably. Maybe the Sons of Thunder could have helped with the cleaning.

Since their true name was Sons of the Thunder Mug I doubt they'd have helped much.

 

[tsig]

I know it's a waste of time, but let's try anyway. John the Baptist was beheaded five years before Jesus' crucifixion. Was he beheaded when he witnessed the crucifixion and when he wrote the gospel?

A little beheading doesn't stop a true apostle, Simon the Zealot died at least seven times and IIRC one or two of them were by beheading.

 

[TjW]

20120907.2200

This is the translation to English of http://aristean.org/pahayag081.htm .

Four nails for Jesus

Alvara Cabalda: Ama, what is the position of Your two feet when You were crucified?
Ama: Side by side.
Marcial Aguila: Not on top of the other [foot]?
Ama: No.
Alvara: On top of the other [foot]?
Ama: No. It is said truly but was not announced yet by saints and prophets, the few experts said and wrote that there were four nails. This was witnessed by the mother of Constantine who said that there were truly four nails used to nail Jesus on the cross by the deceitful Jews.
Listener: This is Passion [“Pasiong Mahal”] already.
Marcial: The fifth is INRI.
Ama: The fifth is INRI. Jesus of Nazareth King of the Jews who the deceitful Jews really crucified.
Marcial: Your cross, Ama, You raised to Heaven with the Blessed Mary?
Ama: Yes.
Marcial: Until now, is the cross still there, Ama?
Ama: Together with the cross of our sins, four nails ... four beautiful nails that were really used to crucify Jesus who is God the Father. It is said truly but was not announced yet by saints and prophets, the few experts said and wrote that there were four nails. And this was witnessed by the mother of Constantine, four nails were really used to crucify Jesus by the deceitful Jews. That is important. That is very clear.
Now, what else would you like to know? Do you want to know the names of the nails?
Marcial: There are many who are here who do not know the names of the nails.
Ama: “Prepram Anacnom”, “Sumaclorde”, “Nasarte Rasion”, “Salbuluray Cabaladoc”.
Marcial: Where are those places? For example, the first. Was that used to nail the left hand?
Ama: Right [hand] first.
Marcial: Right [hand]. Then, Ama?
Ama: Right foot. Then left hand. Then left foot. These nails went to Milan, Carpentas, Paris, and Rome.

This transcription is from k15b, 10:48-13:32

Just want to say that it seems unlikely the mother of Constantine witnessed the Crucifixion, since she wouldn't be born for around two hundred fifty years.

 

[wollery]

Not to mention that it was the Romans who crucified Jesus, not the Jews.

 

[Foster Zygote]

The Holy Bible is my reference. If it is not, or contradicts with what is, in the Bible, then I checked if it is logically correct.

So you see no reason to check whether the Bible is logically correct. What about when the Bible contradicts itself?

 

[Craig B]

Just want to say that it seems unlikely the mother of Constantine witnessed the Crucifixion, since she wouldn't be born for around two hundred fifty years.

She probably "witnessed" four nails, however, if that's what the scam merchants in Jerusalem sold her.

 

[P.J. Denyer]

Not to mention that it was the Romans who crucified Jesus, not the Jews.

"deceitful Jews" don't leave out the the tone of anti-semitism, where's the fun in religion if you can't use it to hate someone?

 

[Astreja]

Nonsense. The eighth was 'Enri.

Yes, but did he get married to the widow next door before or after he lost his head, witnessed the CruciFiction and went for a stroll across southern Europe?

Or was that the Icke Lizards from Niburu? /Me is confused...

 

[Craig B]

Yes, but did he get married to the widow next door before or after he lost his head, witnessed the CruciFiction and went for a stroll across southern Europe?

Or was that the Icke Lizards from Niburu? /Me is confused...

Henry VIII had no need to carry his own severed head! He had plenty of others to cart about if he wished, including those of two of his wives, his Chancellor, and others belonging to lesser persons. Anyway he founded the Church of England, heads or no heads. To taunt the adherents of this religious institution, the Irish used to recite a little poem, the last lines of which have been translated as

The foundation stone of their Temple
Is the ballocks of Henry the Eighth.

So his head was never the main issue.

 

[pakeha]

The Sons of Thunder couldn't have cleaned the mess, they just played music at the wedding. According to the spirit of the Egyptian princess Reneliniyindi, they were the first heavy metal band in History.

Brilliant.
A round of Dom for all!

This is the translation to English of...
Four nails for Jesus
...
Ama: No. It is said truly but was not announced yet by saints and prophets, the few experts said and wrote that there were four nails. This was witnessed by the mother of Constantine who said that there were truly four nails used to nail Jesus on the cross by the deceitful Jews.

Ama: The fifth is INRI. Jesus of Nazareth King of the Jews who the deceitful Jews really crucified.
Marcial: Your cross, Ama, You raised to Heaven with the Blessed Mary?
Ama: Yes.
Marcial: Until now, is the cross still there, Ama?
Ama: ...And this was witnessed by the mother of Constantine, four nails were really used to crucify Jesus by the deceitful Jews. That is important. That is very clear.

That is a most remarkable document, PC, most remarkable.
Now the spirit of ama claims to be jesus?

And you really believe jesus is in contact with a woman in the UK with a house full of coffins, I refer to Angelina Imden, of course.

Actually J the B saw Salome and lost his head over her.

Ahem.

Speaking of John the Baptist...

Not to mention that it was the Romans who crucified Jesus, not the Jews.

Well, PC has explained before that a lot of history will have to be rewritten.
Another round of Dom for all!
And some decent nibbles.
Hmmm.
I wouldn't say no to a barbie.

 

[Madalch]

Look. I took the liberty of examining this here saviour when I got it 'ome, and found that the only reason it 'ad been kipping on its cross in the first place was that it had been nailed there.

 

[George 152]

To me, PeaceCrusaders real problem is that he has such blind faith in Ka Apez, or whatefer her name is, that everything she says must be right, or he has simply misinterpreted it, and must keep searching.

He is completely innocent of thinking and trapped inside a belief system which does not allow for failure, so if anything goes wrong it his his error, not hers, or the fake spirit she is supposed to be channeling. He is no longer able to understand what is actually going on.

So when she makes up stuff, according to PC, it must be true, and he looks for evidence that will support her nonsense, and digs himself such a deep hole trying to defend the fraud, that there is no way out.

Citing facts and evidence which contradicts his belief does not help. She is right and everyone else on the planet is wrong.

Further discourse is futile.

Norm

How so like any religion