Are the crucifixion nails of Jesus in Europe?

[pakeha]

...The wooden cross (or crosses – to include those used for the two thieves) is now in Heaven. On Judgment Day, the cross will go down from Heaven to Earth followed by Jesus.

That is most remarkable information, PC.
Where did you obtain it?

The cross underwent Ascension, or even Bodily (or at least Physical) Assumption, and so did the thieves' crosses!! I think it's time for the Pope infallibly to instruct his long-suffering flock to believe these things. Otherwise they won't.

Perhaps PC should write to His Holiness about that.

I do not know if it is the nail for the hand or the foot or the sign was thrown into the sea when Pontius Pilate died to calm a storm. This nail miraculously floated and ended up in Paris which Saint James found. ...

I didn't know Paris was founded by St James. I was under the impression it was founded in the 3rd century BCE.
Live and learn.

...It was the disciple John the Baptist who Jesus loved. It was John the Baptist who was with the Blessed Virgin Mary (BVM) when Jesus was crucified. ... It was John the Baptist to whom Jesus addressed while on the cross, “Behold thy mother!” ...FYI, the author of the gospel of John is John the Baptist.

Who was wed at Cana (John 2:1-12)? It was John the Baptist. Why was the BVM present during the wedding? Why was she concerned about the wine?

That is amazing reading, PC.
So John the Baptist was at the crucifixion and wrote the gospel often attributed to St John?
When was he beheaded, then?
Before or after Pontius Pilate was cast into the sea?

Thanks for telling about all this, PC.
A round of Dom for all!

 

[hurdygurdy]

Who starred "Rio Bravo"? It was John Wayne the Baptist. Who sang "Yo-ho-ho, and a bottle of rum!"? It was Long John The Baptist. Who was the son of JFK? It was John John the Baptist.

 

[tsig]

That is most remarkable information, PC.
Where did you obtain it?



Perhaps PC should write to His Holiness about that.




I didn't know Paris was founded by St James. I was under the impression it was founded in the 3rd century BCE.
Live and learn.



That is amazing reading, PC.
So John the Baptist was at the crucifixion and wrote the gospel often attributed to St John?
When was he beheaded, then?Before or after Pontius Pilate was cast into the sea?

Thanks for telling about all this, PC.
A round of Dom for all!

From what I've read in this thread it wouldn't matter. He was a saint and didn't need a head to live.

Enough wine, here's a wheel of cheese.

 

[tsig]

Who starred "Rio Bravo"? It was John Wayne the Baptist. Who sang "Yo-ho-ho, and a bottle of rum!"? It was Long John The Baptist. Who was the son of JFK? It was John John the Baptist.

I see PC madness has struck another poster.

 

[dafydd]

Who starred "Rio Bravo"? It was John Wayne the Baptist.

Marion Robert Morrison, actually.

 

[TjW]

He's a cephalophore because he can carry his own severed head around like a shopping bag, as shown in a statue in Paris. http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=st...hl=en&client=safari#biv=i|0;d|IOrnp4Ud4hOhQM: That's quite a trick! But, as they say: Is there anything impossible with the only true God? He can make a dead person walk about while carrying his own head! Can John the Baptist do that, or did Salome steal it and not give it back?

If he can get a horse, he'd be qualified for the Headless Hunt.

 

[Elizabeth I]

Who starred "Rio Bravo"? It was John Wayne the Baptist. Who sang "Yo-ho-ho, and a bottle of rum!"? It was Long John The Baptist. Who was the son of JFK? It was John John the Baptist.

Wow, that's fun! Who was forced to submit to Magna Carta? King John the Baptist! Who teamed up with Paul McCartney? John Lennon the Baptist! Who founded the Methodist Church? John Wesley the Bapt...um...

 

[jsfisher]

Biggest douche-bag of the Universe: John Edwards the Baptist (the pseudo psychic).

Greatest children's song subject: John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt the Baptist.

Porcelain throne: John the Baptist.

 

[AdMan]

20120907.0305

@Craig B, #275

It was the disciple John the Baptist who Jesus loved. It was John the Baptist who was with the Blessed Virgin Mary (BVM) when Jesus was crucified. John the Baptist was the second cousin of Jesus. The mother of John the Baptist was Elizabeth, the first cousin of the BVM (Luke 1:36). Jesus was the only child of BVM. It was John the Baptist to whom Jesus addressed while on the cross, “Behold thy mother!”

The evangelist John is not John the Apostle, the brother of James, the son of Zebedee. Jesus gave them the name “Boanerges” which means, “Sons of Thunder” (Mark 3:17). Why “Sons of Thunder”? Because they are loud. FYI, the author of the gospel of John is John the Baptist.

Who was wed at Cana (John 2:1-12)? It was John the Baptist. Why was the BVM present during the wedding? Why was she concerned about the wine?

I do not know if there was any sound made by John the Baptist when beheaded but the lips were moving as if talking (“kumikibot”). The beheaded Saint Denis walked for six miles (ten km) from Montmarte in France to his burial site preaching with his head in his hands.

Are you trying to get this thread moved to the humor subforum?

It won't be too hard, if you keep making things up or KA keeps pulling nonsense out of her nether regions.

 

[devnull]

PC, let me ask: do you believe Enkidu really existed?

If not, why not?

 

[pakeha]

From what I've read in this thread it wouldn't matter. He was a saint and didn't need a head to live.

Enough wine, here's a wheel of cheese.

And toasted almonds.
They go admirably with Dom.
But don't just take my word for it-
Another round of Dom for all!

Speaking of John the Baptist...

 

[hurdygurdy]

He's a cephalophore because he can carry his own severed head around like a shopping bag, as shown in a statue in Paris. http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=st...hl=en&client=safari#biv=i|0;d|IOrnp4Ud4hOhQM: That's quite a trick! But, as they say: Is there anything impossible with the only true God? He can make a dead person walk about while carrying his own head! Can John the Baptist do that, or did Salome steal it and not give it back?

It's perfectly logical that John the Baptist witnessed the crucifixion and wrote the gospel while carrying his own head, as logical as the four nails that became thirteen. Remember: don't believe your eyes, they are secondary to the mind.

 

[Her Grey Eminence]

20120826.1145

A spirit revealed that four nails were used for the hands and feet of Jesus when He was crucified. The nails were eight-sided, “octobado”. They had been retrieved from Jerusalem by Saint Helena, the mother of Emperor Constantine. It is incredible because the nails made of steel floated on the water and were brought to different places – Karpentas, Rome, Milan, and Paris.

Do I believe this? The story is also found at “Awit at salaysay ng Pasiong Mahal” (in Filipino) read and sang during Holy Week in the Philippines. Any comments?

I believe the mathematician John Nash thought he had identified them, but then he went insane and got a Nobel prize.

 

[Pixel42]

I believe the mathematician John Nash thought he had identified them

That would be John Nash the Baptist, I presume.

This thread gets funnier and funnier. I didn't pay much attention in Sunday school, but even I knew that the John "who Jesus loved" who wrote the gospel and Jesus' cousin John the Baptist were two different people.

 

[gambling_cruiser]

It's perfectly logical that John the Baptist witnessed the crucifixion and wrote the gospel while carrying his own head, as logical as the four nails that became thirteen. Remember: don't believe your eyes, they are secondary to the mind.

The bolded part - that's easy, you know when daddy-nail really likes (nails) mummy-nail then little baby-nails will arrive soon.
Some off the offspring was sold for construction works (e.g. crosses and whatever you like to nail to it) and all the others are the grand-grand.....
...parents of the nail poplation of the world (they must have been also on Noah's ark otherwise they would have gone the way of the dinosaurs).

 

[MRC_Hans]

20120907.0305

@Craig B, #275

It was the disciple John the Baptist who Jesus loved. It was John the Baptist who was with the Blessed Virgin Mary (BVM) when Jesus was crucified. John the Baptist was the second cousin of Jesus. The mother of John the Baptist was Elizabeth, the first cousin of the BVM (Luke 1:36). Jesus was the only child of BVM. It was John the Baptist to whom Jesus addressed while on the cross, “Behold thy mother!”

The evangelist John is not John the Apostle, the brother of James, the son of Zebedee. Jesus gave them the name “Boanerges” which means, “Sons of Thunder” (Mark 3:17). Why “Sons of Thunder”? Because they are loud. FYI, the author of the gospel of John is John the Baptist.

Who was wed at Cana (John 2:1-12)? It was John the Baptist. Why was the BVM present during the wedding? Why was she concerned about the wine?

I do not know if there was any sound made by John the Baptist when beheaded but the lips were moving as if talking (“kumikibot”). The beheaded Saint Denis walked for six miles (ten km) from Montmarte in France to his burial site preaching with his head in his hands.

Pssst, PeaceCrusader: You belive all this, but haven't you noticed that the rest of us don't? We think it is all fiction, and not even very good fiction. You words are falling on stony ground.

Hans

 

[fromdownunder]

To me, PeaceCrusaders real problem is that he has such blind faith in Ka Apez, or whatefer her name is, that everything she says must be right, or he has simply misinterpreted it, and must keep searching.

He is completely innocent of thinking and trapped inside a belief system which does not allow for failure, so if anything goes wrong it his his error, not hers, or the fake spirit she is supposed to be channeling. He is no longer able to understand what is actually going on.

So when she makes up stuff, according to PC, it must be true, and he looks for evidence that will support her nonsense, and digs himself such a deep hole trying to defend the fraud, that there is no way out.

Citing facts and evidence which contradicts his belief does not help. She is right and everyone else on the planet is wrong.

Further discourse is futile.

Norm

 

[Craig B]

It's perfectly logical that John the Baptist witnessed the crucifixion and wrote the gospel while carrying his own head, as logical as the four nails that became thirteen. Remember: don't believe your eyes, they are secondary to the mind.

Does that mean he also got married at Cana while carrying his own head? (I'm not clear about the chronology of these things.) That would have been worth seeing. No wonder Mary was worried about the wine at the wedding feast. The idea of a disembodied head drinking wine is a rather startling and disquieting one. Messy too, probably. Maybe the Sons of Thunder could have helped with the cleaning.

 

[hurdygurdy]

The Sons of Thunder couldn't have cleaned the mess, they just played music at the wedding. According to the spirit of the Egyptian princess Reneliniyindi, they were the first heavy metal band in History.

 

[PeaceCrusader]

20120907.2200

This is the translation to English of http://aristean.org/pahayag081.htm .

Four nails for Jesus

Alvara Cabalda: Ama, what is the position of Your two feet when You were crucified?
Ama: Side by side.
Marcial Aguila: Not on top of the other [foot]?
Ama: No.
Alvara: On top of the other [foot]?
Ama: No. It is said truly but was not announced yet by saints and prophets, the few experts said and wrote that there were four nails. This was witnessed by the mother of Constantine who said that there were truly four nails used to nail Jesus on the cross by the deceitful Jews.
Listener: This is Passion [“Pasiong Mahal”] already.
Marcial: The fifth is INRI.
Ama: The fifth is INRI. Jesus of Nazareth King of the Jews who the deceitful Jews really crucified.
Marcial: Your cross, Ama, You raised to Heaven with the Blessed Mary?
Ama: Yes.
Marcial: Until now, is the cross still there, Ama?
Ama: Together with the cross of our sins, four nails ... four beautiful nails that were really used to crucify Jesus who is God the Father. It is said truly but was not announced yet by saints and prophets, the few experts said and wrote that there were four nails. And this was witnessed by the mother of Constantine, four nails were really used to crucify Jesus by the deceitful Jews. That is important. That is very clear.
Now, what else would you like to know? Do you want to know the names of the nails?
Marcial: There are many who are here who do not know the names of the nails.
Ama: “Prepram Anacnom”, “Sumaclorde”, “Nasarte Rasion”, “Salbuluray Cabaladoc”.
Marcial: Where are those places? For example, the first. Was that used to nail the left hand?
Ama: Right [hand] first.
Marcial: Right [hand]. Then, Ama?
Ama: Right foot. Then left hand. Then left foot. These nails went to Milan, Carpentas, Paris, and Rome.

This transcription is from k15b, 10:48-13:32