Are the crucifixion nails of Jesus in Europe?

[hurdygurdy]

You are maybe one who says that because the prophecy failed, everything has to be ignored or discarded. Pick up what will be good for your soul and discard what you think will be evil.

Your "spirit" failed at everything else (the false egyptian princess, the false St. Evangeline, the "octobado" nails...). And I can't take seriously the advice to pick up what's good for your soul from someone who wishes the death of billions of human beings.

 

[gabeygoat]

The spirit of Ama mentions most of the time what is in KJV. From time to time, he also refers to what is from “Pasiong Mahal”. Also, he quoted verses from “Florante at Laura” as in http://aristean.org/transcript081.htm when we were discussing about raising children.

That's because those are what KA APAZ knows

 

[Pixel42]

You are maybe one who says that because the prophecy failed, everything has to be ignored or discarded.

No, I'm one who says that someone who has been shown to be wrong about everything they've said that can be checked is unlikely to be right about the things they've said that can't be checked.

 

[devnull]

There were twelve nails excavated in Jerusalem. This means that each of those crucified had a nail for the sign or title. Two for the hands. One nail for the feet of Dimas, one nail for the feet of Hestas, and two nails for the feet of Jesus.

Because 3 + 2 + 2 + 2 + 1 + 1 + 2 = 12, right?

I have to ask PC, what on earth makes you think that any of this is true?

A floating nail? Come now.

 

[PeaceCrusader]

Because 3 + 2 + 2 + 2 + 1 + 1 + 2 = 12, right?

I have to ask PC, what on earth makes you think that any of this is true?

A floating nail? Come now.

20120906.1800

@devnull, #264

You are correct, devnull. When the church of Venus in Jerusalem was demolished and excavated after the defeat of the Romans by Prince Constantine, Helena, his mother, found 12 nails, eight of which are rusty and the crosses decaying.

The nails are made of metal, most likely, iron. There should be thirteen in all but one of the nails of Jesus, I do not know if it is the nail for the hand or the foot or the sign was thrown into the sea when Pontius Pilate died to calm a storm. This nail miraculously floated and ended up in Paris which Saint James found. Yes, I believe it is a miracle that a metal nail would float. Is there anything impossible with the only true God? He can make a dead person live again. Saint Denis (or Denys or Dionysius) is an example of cephalophore or martyred by beheading. And FYI, Saint John the Baptist.

 

[hurdygurdy]

Is there anything impossible with the only true God?

Well, I know at least one thing that is impossible: To get a right claim from Ka Apaz.

 

[devnull]

The nails are made of metal, most likely, iron. There should be thirteen in all but one of the nails of Jesus, I do not know if it is the nail for the hand or the foot or the sign was thrown into the sea when Pontius Pilate died to calm a storm. This nail miraculously floated and ended up in Paris which Saint James found. Yes, I believe it is a miracle that a metal nail would float. Is there anything impossible with the only true God? He can make a dead person live again. Saint Denis (or Denys or Dionysius) is an example of cephalophore or martyred by beheading. And FYI, Saint John the Baptist.

Ahhh, I see, the floating nail was the thirteenth...... I should have realised. Then god resurrected Saint Denis and John the Baptist.......

Then what did Hermione do? Did Ron help?

 

[Stomatopoda]

Seems the number of nails in this tale is growing like rabbits multiplying. Can we get some rabbit cartoons, now?

 

[Craig B]

... Is there anything impossible with the only true God? He can make a dead person live again. Saint Denis (or Denys or Dionysius) is an example of cephalophore or martyred by beheading. And FYI, Saint John the Baptist.

He's a cephalophore because he can carry his own severed head around like a shopping bag, as shown in a statue in Paris. http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=st...hl=en&client=safari#biv=i|0;d|IOrnp4Ud4hOhQM: That's quite a trick! But, as they say: Is there anything impossible with the only true God? He can make a dead person walk about while carrying his own head! Can John the Baptist do that, or did Salome steal it and not give it back?

 

[hurdygurdy]

Please do not use only your eyes to believe. The eyes are only secondary to the mind.

That may explain why you base your beliefs on Ka Apaz, a blind illiterate scammer.

 

[jsfisher]

Such an interesting story, and fluid, too. Why, there doesn't seem to be any difficulty embellishing and altering details to accommodate all challenges of reality. Those that cannot be accommodated are simply ignored. How convenient. Four then 10 then 12 then 13 nails. So adaptable.

 

[PeaceCrusader]

Ahhh, I see, the floating nail was the thirteenth...... I should have realised. Then god resurrected Saint Denis and John the Baptist.......

Then what did Hermione do? Did Ron help?

20120907.0210

@devnull, #267

Did you know that in the Holy Bible, John the Baptist was beheaded while imprisoned? This is in Matthew 14:1-12, Mark 6:14-29, and in Luke 9:7-9. Herod the tetrarch (the son of king Herod the Great) had John the Baptist beheaded and was presented on a dish to the daughter of Herodias. Did you know that even with just the head, it kept on talking?

Who was the disciple that Jesus loved? Who was the disciple who was with the Blessed Virgin Mary to whom Jesus said in John 19:27, “Behold thy mother!”? Who is the evangelist John? Who was wed at Cana (John 2:1-12)?

Who are Hermione and Ron BTW?

 

[tsig]

Seems the number of nails in this tale is growing like rabbits multiplying. Can we get some rabbit cartoons, now?

More like loaves and fishes.

 

[gambling_cruiser]

Hermione Granger and Ron Weasley are characters from the Harry Potter novels (fiction, just like the bible).

 

[Craig B]

20120907.0210

@devnull, #267

Did you know that in the Holy Bible, John the Baptist was beheaded while imprisoned? This is in Matthew 14:1-12, Mark 6:14-29, and in Luke 9:7-9. Herod the tetrarch (the son of king Herod the Great) had John the Baptist beheaded and was presented on a dish to the daughter of Herodias. Did you know that even with just the head, it kept on talking?

No, I didn't know that. Thank you.

Who was the disciple that Jesus loved? Who was the disciple who was with the Blessed Virgin Mary to whom Jesus said in John 19:27, “Behold thy mother!”? Who is the evangelist John? Who was wed at Cana (John 2:1-12)?

Who indeed? Don't leave us in suspense.

Who are Hermione and Ron BTW?

Ditto. But Not only can cephalophores carry their heads around - the heads can talk! Problem: without any lungs, how can they get air to flow across their vocal cords? But I forgot, God can do anything! OK. But what do the bodiless heads talk about?

 

[PeaceCrusader]

Such an interesting story, and fluid, too. Why, there doesn't seem to be any difficulty embellishing and altering details to accommodate all challenges of reality. Those that cannot be accommodated are simply ignored. How convenient. Four then 10 then 12 then 13 nails. So adaptable.

20120907.0245

@jsfisher, #271

There were four nails to nail the hands and feet of Jesus. There were only three nails used for Dimas and Hestas, the thieves crucified with Jesus. So the total is 10. When Helena, the mother of Prince Constantine, demolished the church of Venus in Jerusalem in the fourth century AD, she found twelve nails. But one nail was thrown into the sea when Pontius Pilate died during the first century AD to calm a storm. Did you know that the body of Pontius Pilate was thrown into the sea to calm that storm? The sea became more tumultuous. Then they threw one of the nails in the crucifixion of Jesus and the storm calmed down. So originally, there were thirteen nails. It means that one nail each was used for the signs.

 

[Craig B]

20120907.0245

@jsfisher, #271

... Did you know that the body of Pontius Pilate was thrown into the sea to calm that storm? The sea became more tumultuous. Then they threw one of the nails in the crucifixion of Jesus and the storm calmed down. So originally, there were thirteen nails. It means that one nail each was used for the signs.

I did not know that. I thought Pilate disappeared from history after he was recalled to Rome for slaughtering some Samaritans. But did they throw the nail and that didn't work, and they had to throw Pilate in as well. Is this the tempest in the Adriatic that threatened Rome? A mighty storm indeed!

 

[PeaceCrusader]

No, I didn't know that. Thank you. Who indeed? Don't leave us in suspense. Ditto. But Not only can cephalophores carry their heads around - the heads can talk! Problem: without any lungs, how can they get air to flow across their vocal cords? But I forgot, God can do anything! OK. But what do the bodiless heads talk about?

20120907.0305

@Craig B, #275

It was the disciple John the Baptist who Jesus loved. It was John the Baptist who was with the Blessed Virgin Mary (BVM) when Jesus was crucified. John the Baptist was the second cousin of Jesus. The mother of John the Baptist was Elizabeth, the first cousin of the BVM (Luke 1:36). Jesus was the only child of BVM. It was John the Baptist to whom Jesus addressed while on the cross, “Behold thy mother!”

The evangelist John is not John the Apostle, the brother of James, the son of Zebedee. Jesus gave them the name “Boanerges” which means, “Sons of Thunder” (Mark 3:17). Why “Sons of Thunder”? Because they are loud. FYI, the author of the gospel of John is John the Baptist.

Who was wed at Cana (John 2:1-12)? It was John the Baptist. Why was the BVM present during the wedding? Why was she concerned about the wine?

I do not know if there was any sound made by John the Baptist when beheaded but the lips were moving as if talking (“kumikibot”). The beheaded Saint Denis walked for six miles (ten km) from Montmarte in France to his burial site preaching with his head in his hands.

 

[Craig B]

@PeaceCrusader

The author of the Gospel of John is John the Baptist? That is even more astonishing than St Denis being able to preach from his severed head, while walking ten kilometres. Did anyone take note of the sermon he preached in these unusual circumstances? Did John the Baptist also write the Book of Revelation. Its author was called John, too. And what about the Epistles of John?

Where do you obtain this remarkable information?

 

[Bad vibe]

20120907.0305

@Craig B, #275

It was the disciple John the Baptist who Jesus loved. It was John the Baptist who was with the Blessed Virgin Mary (BVM) when Jesus was crucified. John the Baptist was the second cousin of Jesus. The mother of John the Baptist was Elizabeth, the first cousin of the BVM (Luke 1:36). Jesus was the only child of BVM. It was John the Baptist to whom Jesus addressed while on the cross, “Behold thy mother!”

I thought Jesus had several siblings?

The evangelist John is not John the Apostle, the brother of James, the son of Zebedee. Jesus gave them the name “Boanerges” which means, “Sons of Thunder” (Mark 3:17). Why “Sons of Thunder”? Because they are loud. FYI, the author of the gospel of John is John the Baptist.

Lactose intolerance can be a real burden.

Who was wed at Cana (John 2:1-12)? It was John the Baptist. Why was the BVM present during the wedding? Why was she concerned about the wine?

they served red with chicken?

I do not know if there was any sound made by John the Baptist when beheaded but the lips were moving as if talking (“kumikibot”). The beheaded Saint Denis walked for six miles (ten km) from Montmarte in France to his burial site preaching with his head in his hands.

You believe some very weird stuff.