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Vaccine/autism CT discussion

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tynan said:
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Here is another 'victim' of BigPharma's evil vaccine plot:

Eddy, 4, he's a whole year ahead for his age, I'll get his nursery report and scan it in so you don't think I'm just another dad boasting (not that I wouldn't do that, lol).

He also had every single vaccine recommended by his doctors including MMR as well as the swine flu vaccine (winter 2010) . . . . and this is the really strange part . . . . nothing happened to him . . . weird . . . !?

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MissArisia started 10th grade today; AP Biology, Honors English, Honors Algebra II, US History, French III, singing and playing piano accompaniment for the school Chorus again this year and on the Cross Country team as she trains for the Cape Cod Marathon (the only one I could find nearby that lets under-16s register)... and as fully vaccinated as possible, at the typical ages for each vaccination.
And it does appear that ASDs run on both sides of the family (3 of her 11 first cousins are on the spectrum), so it's strange that she has avoided it, considering she's been receiving vaccinations all her life.
 
Clayton Moore said:
As in catching the cause of it. I thought that was obvious.
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No, Clayton. That is not how your post came across.

Were Polio victims something to be pointed out and laughed at?

Would it be ***** and giggles to go point at an Autistic child from a family with a mature father?

That's with or without vaccination.
 
Clayton Moore said:
It should have. Autism isn't contagious.
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Well, you ARE advocating children unnecessarily suffering and possibly dying from easily preventable diseases, so you'll forgive parties that read cruelness into your post, because it is inherently there so often.
 
TheRedWorm said:
Well, you ARE advocating children unnecessarily suffering and possibly dying from easily preventable diseases, so you'll forgive parties that read cruelness into your post, because it is inherently there so often.
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It's 2012. Why should anyone die of measles in the USA in the same numbers as they did in the 1950s?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_infant_mortality_rate

I'm sure a graph of the decline from 10th to 34th since 1950 would show a relationship to the increase of vaccines given to infants.
 
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Clayton Moore said:
It's 2012. Why should anyone die of measles in the USA in the same numbers as they did in the 1950s?
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There is no treatment for measles once a child has it. Fewer children die of it now because most are vaccinated against it and therefore do not catch the disease.


ETA:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_infant_mortality_rate

I'm sure a graph of the decline from 10 to 34 would show a relationship to the increase of vaccines given to infants.
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The relative ranking and the mortality rate have both changed, and are different things. You can certainly put part of the change of mortality rate from 30.46 to 7.07 down to vaccination programmes.
 
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TheRedWorm said:
Well, you ARE advocating children unnecessarily suffering and possibly dying from easily preventable diseases, so you'll forgive parties that read cruelness into your post, because it is inherently there so often.
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I had the measles and the other childhood diseases. I didn't suffer. I got sick.
I got strep throat when I was 12. I was out of school for two or three weeks. One of my teachers tutored me so that I could keep up. She was beautiful and I could hardly think.

http://www.gentlebirth.org/ronnie/homejjg.html


Vaccines and contagions are likely the problem with hospital births.
 
Right. So you got a disease and didnt suffer ergo no other complications are possible?

By that logic, because I was vaccinated and am not autistic...
 
Clayton Moore said:
It's 2012. Why should anyone die of measles in the USA in the same numbers as they did in the 1950s?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_infant_mortality_rate
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They don't. No where near the infection rate as previously. Your point?

I'm sure a graph of the decline from 10th to 34th since 1950 would show a relationship to the increase of vaccines given to infants.
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Argument from ignorance?

Clayton Moore said:
I had the measles and the other childhood diseases. I didn't suffer. I got sick.
I got strep throat when I was 12. I was out of school for two or three weeks. One of my teachers tutored me so that I could keep up. She was beautiful and I could hardly think.

http://www.gentlebirth.org/ronnie/homejjg.html
This explains a lot.


Vaccines and contagions are likely the problem with hospital births.
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Clayton Moore said:
I had the measles and the other childhood diseases. I didn't suffer. I got sick.
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Me too. Not everyone is so lucky; not to mention the stress on the parents of dealing with children with a fever and a disease that can cause blindness and death. I'm glad I didn't have to go through that with my kids.


Vaccines and contagions are likely the problem with hospital births.
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What on earth are you wittering on about now?
 
Giordano said:
Clayton,
I forgot... Weren't you going to tell us the vaccines and the vaccination schedule that you think are safe? Because you keep claiming there are too many at one time. You keep claiming that one, or another vaccine is bad. So, after many times being asked, finally tell us the number and type of vaccines you think would be safe. Based on your scientific knowledge, of course.
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Clayton Moore said:
All the very best to everyone's children.

Me, I started first grade at an elite private school at the age of 5. I never went to kindergarten so you might say I was 2 years ahead.;)
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That's odd. Gio asked you to put up or shut up, and you suddenly decide to respond to an incidental post from the top of the page.

Robrob said:
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Argument from ignorance?
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It's a Clay argument, so by definition....
 
Clayton Moore said:
Vaccine OCT batch ZVRT
Vaccine BH batch 18Y
Vaccine CL batch 99Q
Vaccine DR batch VGG
Vaccine NP batch GCB
Vaccine VJ batch TEW
Vaccine A14 batch MKI
Vaccine A 18 batch WNH
Vaccine SS11 batch QAX

9 vaccine jabs during one visit ain't science. It ain't medicine either.
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What, specifically, is wrong with that?

Please be specific. Just saying "THAT'S TOO MANY!!!" is not a reasonable answer.
 
Clayton you know nothing about science and are not qulaified to say what is and what is not science
 
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