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Vaccine/autism CT discussion

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Clayton Moore said:
Thanks. That was stupid. Worldwide genetic failure causes autism.
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Why is that stupid? The researchers identified a specific metabolic pathway disorder during early development that leads to Autism (among other things) associated with fragile x syndrome.
 
BrianH said:
Why is that stupid? The researchers identified a specific metabolic pathway disorder during early development that leads to Autism (among other things) associated with fragile x syndrome.
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How could a metabolic pathway disorder be genetically common to children with autism in France, England, Japan, and the US?
 
http://www.ageofautism.com/2012/09/...-mmr-plus-toxins-equal-sspe-equal-autism.html

Interesting read.

So the idea that the measles vaccine, a live virus, could also trigger SSPE or a variant is certainly biologically Measles virusplausible, secret documents or not. If that's the case, mixing measles with mumps and rubella live viruses to create the MMR only makes matters worse because of immune interference (see Wakefield, Andy). So does adding a chickenpox shot on the same day, or cooking up the MMRV, with seven times the amount of chickenpox virus added to the already immunity-compromising MMR.

Blanco also notes: "An imbalance of TH1/TH2 system seems to be the prerequisite for both CNS diseases [SSPE and autism]. Possible causes for an imbalance are mercury (thimerosal) and vaccinations during the first months of life." And he includes this abstract from one of Wakefield's follow-up studies to the 1998 Lancet paper linking bowel disease and regressive autism (it's easy to forget -- because the medical establishment is trying to expunge the record -- that many follow-up studies by Andy and others have strongly added to the evidence):
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LANCE VS LANCET: If the anti-doping agency treated all the first-hand accounts of Lance Armstrong doping with the same scorn mainstream medical "experts" treat parental reports of autistic regression after vaccination, he'd still be champion of the world.
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Clayton Moore said:
How could a metabolic pathway disorder be genetically common to children with autism in France, England, Japan, and the US?
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Because they all have common ancestry. I think you are mistaking the scale on which this is described as a 'recent' development.
 
Clayton Moore said:
http://blogs.kqed.org/stateofhealth...f-new-study-on-developmental-delay-and-autism

As for why FEWER and MORE SEVERE, fewer vaccinations for the poor and poor children are less healthy diet wise.
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From that article:
In the case of autism, they found that rates of autism were about the same between Hispanic and non-Hispanic children.
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You haven't by chance just read the first sentence? And how would the vaccination assumption explain the increased severity?
 
Clayton Moore said:
Thanks. That was stupid. Worldwide genetic failure causes autism.
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Earlier in this thread I pointed out to you a different study linking genetics to autism, and you were similarly dismissive of it as " stupid." I asked you why you thought it was stupid, and you never replied. Now I finally understand how you were mistaking genetics as applying to immediate families only, instead of broad genetic traits that either arise de novo (as in my citation) or exist worldwide in the human population (as in this case). If you had been more willing to discuss your "rationale" earlier when I had asked, I could have helped you understand the research better and why it was correct, not stupid!

I realize you have explicitedly claimed several times in your threads that you are the smartest person here, but perhaps from time to time the rest of us can offer some new and useful information in areas you may not have studied in detail, such as biology, medicine, history, and physics. I for one am happy to help, particularly because I think many of your fears of vaccines would be resolved if you knew more about the immune system and biology.
 
Clayton Moore said:
How could a metabolic pathway disorder be genetically common to children with autism in France, England, Japan, and the US?
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As the article says, this is something that came about due to "...evolutionary changes that led the NOS1 gene to become active specifically in the parts of the developing human brain that form the adult centers for speech and language and decision-making." It would not be unreasonable to think that one might find it in any animal that has centers for speech/language and decision-making. French, English, Japanese, and US children all have that characteristic.

There are other metabolic pathway disorders that occur in all segments of the human population, such as PKU.
 
Sorry need to post a few more comments before I am allowed to post my own images.
 
Redtail said:
Then why is this baby...
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Not only doing just fine, but is 1-2 months ahead in development even though he has had every vaccination recommended by his doctors?
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OMG !!!! How did the NWO let that little beauty get through ! : )

Here is another 'victim' of BigPharma's evil vaccine plot:

Eddy, 4, he's a whole year ahead for his age, I'll get his nursery report and scan it in so you don't think I'm just another dad boasting (not that I wouldn't do that, lol).

He also had every single vaccine recommended by his doctors including MMR as well as the swine flu vaccine (winter 2010) . . . . and this is the really strange part . . . . nothing happened to him . . . weird . . . !?

:D

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Mr

Giordano said:
Earlier in this thread I pointed out to you a different study linking genetics to autism, and you were similarly dismissive of it as " stupid." I asked you why you thought it was stupid, and you never replied. Now I finally understand how you were mistaking genetics as applying to immediate families only, instead of broad genetic traits that either arise de novo (as in my citation) or exist worldwide in the human population (as in this case). If you had been more willing to discuss your "rationale" earlier when I had asked, I could have helped you understand the research better and why it was correct, not stupid!

I realize you have explicitedly claimed several times in your threads that you are the smartest person here, but perhaps from time to time the rest of us can offer some new and useful information in areas you may not have studied in detail, such as biology, medicine, history, and physics. I for one am happy to help, particularly because I think many of your fears of vaccines would be resolved if you knew more about the immune system and biology.
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I don't know what's going to happen when baby ABABCD is injected with
9 vaccines in one visit.
Nobody knows what's going to happen when baby ABABCD is injected with
9 vaccines in one visit.
Vaccine OCT batch ZVRT
Vaccine BH batch 18Y
Vaccine CL batch 99Q
Vaccine DR batch VGG
Vaccine NP batch GFCB
Vaccine VJ batch TEW
Vaccine A14 batch MKI
Vaccine A 18 batch WNH
Vaccine UU11 batch QAX

Nor do you.

Nobody knows what happened when baby ABABCD was injected with
9 vaccines in one visit.

Nor do you.
 
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