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have only uncommonly been associated with severe local reactions.
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Clayton Moore said:
It's always amusing to read something that is obviously dancing with words to downplay risk.
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Uncommon:not common ; unusual; rare;out of the ordinary

Local Reaction:a reaction to treatment that occurs at the site at which it was administered.


So we have reaction at the site of the injection that is raely severe.
What is beiung downplayed Clayton. Seems pretty straightforward to me.

However the MOST common reaction to a vaccine is induced immunity to diseases which if contracted would ALWAYS have severe consequences.

What part of very little risk versus very great risk do you have trouble with?
 
Clayton Moore said:
http://www.vaclib.org/chapter/cherubs.htm

Read and learn.
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What, exactly, are we to "learn" from that page? Is that where those "instant deaths" you lied about are documented? Or where we will find out how vaccines end up in the G.I. tract? Why it is that, despite all of the studies you yourself asked for, no credible link can be documented between vaccines and autism?

Or did the 9-year-old tell you that page has an explanation for us as to why you continually run from actually *discussing* the issues involved and an explanation of why it doesn't send your credibility further into the crapper every time you ignore the facts in favour of spamming more idiocy?
 
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so once again Mr Moore instead of providing information or hard evidence and independently verified research you put up a link to a whacko website......
 
Clayton Moore said:
http://www.vaclib.org/chapter/cherubs.htm

Read and learn.:D
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I have learned three things:
1. Never ask an anti-vaxer to design a website, the results will be hideous
2. Never rely on an anti-vaxer for a straight answer
3. Anti-Vaxers love quotes, any quote will do, even if you don't quite grasp their meaning:
dodgy antivax quote page said:
"May as well consult a butcher on the value of vegetarianism as a doctor on the worth of vaccination."---Bernard Shaw
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Aulus Agerius said:
dodgy antivax quote page said:
"May as well consult a butcher on the value of vegetarianism as a doctor on the worth of vaccination."---Bernard Shaw
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The irony, Clay, is that George Bernard Shaw is a writer, not a medical professional.

Also, a butcher can still have a valid opinion of vegetarianism while selling meat for a living.

Of course, given that you have no problem saying "the servicemen" (who you think agree with you) support your point are just as credible as actual scientists, I'm surprised you didn't quote it yourself.
 
LSSBB said:
http://www.latimes.com/health/boostershots/la-heb-older-fathers--genetic-mutations-autism-schizophrenia20120822,0,4956716.story

Read and learn. :p
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Stefansson, who is a human geneticist and neurologist at the University of Iceland and the company deCODE Genetics in Reykjavík, noted for example that the average age of Iceland's fathers at the time of a child’s conception was 34.9 in 1900, falling to 27.9 in 1980, then rising back up again to 33 in 2011.

“Similar changes have taken place all over the Western world,” Stefansson said. “It’s very likely to have made meaningful contributions to increased diagnoses of autism in our society. What percentage is due to that and what percentage is due to increased focus on diagnosis, I cannot tell you.”
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That was a stupid article.

It never mentioned the 1900 autism epidemic in Iceland.
 
Clayton Moore said:
http://www.vaclib.org/chapter/cherubs.htm

Read and learn.:D
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Didn't you get a lot of vaccinations when you were a Navy Walrus?

Clayton Moore said:
That was a stupid article.

It never mentioned the 1900 autism epidemic in Iceland.
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Possibly because the term wasn't even coined for another decade and not in modern use for another 38 years?

The New Latin word autismus (English translation autism) was coined by the Swiss psychiatrist Eugen Bleuler in 1910... The word autism first took its modern sense in 1938 when Hans Asperger of the Vienna University Hospital adopted Bleuler's terminology autistic psychopaths in a lecture in German about child psychology.
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Not to mention...

The number of people diagnosed with autism has increased dramatically since the 1980s, partly due to changes in diagnostic practice; the question of whether actual prevalence has increased is unresolved.
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Robrob said:
Possibly because the term wasn't even coined for another decade and not in modern use for another 38 years?
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Certainly the symptoms that presented themselves when the toddlers were 18 months old caused by old fathers would have been noticed and written about.

Whether or not they suspected the old fathers were the cause.


I got the shots. But I only got 7 and I was all grown up not an infant.


http://worldtruth.tv/pharma-backed-...tions-of-children-without-parental-consent-2/
 
Tomtomkent said:
Any ill effect from vaccinating infants or pregnant women. Feel free to actually support your assertions any time you like.
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If you ignore the ill effects of vaccines I'm sorry to say it will hit home. Vaccines are, over all, bad medicine.

What do you think a babies immune system thinks when it encounters 9 separate instances of aluminum, formaldehyde, foreign tissue, vaccine yadda, yadda, yadda?

You people need to wake up and understand the why vaccine makers can't be sued and why there is a
Office of Special Masters of the U.S. Court of Federal Claims, which administers a no-fault system for litigating vaccine injury claims. These claims against vaccine manufacturers cannot normally be filed in state or federal civil courts, but instead must be heard in the Court of Claims, sitting without a jury.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccine_court
 
Clayton Moore said:
If you ignore the ill effects of vaccines I'm sorry to say it will hit home. Vaccines are, over all, bad medicine.

What do you think a babies immune system thinks when it encounters 9 separate instances of aluminum, formaldehyde, foreign tissue, vaccine yadda, yadda, yadda?

You people need to wake up and understand the why vaccine makers can't be sued and why there is a

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccine_court
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Oh look more polemic and opinion... see, that viable evidence of a connection between ill effects and vaccines taken by infants or pregnant women is still missing. As you have decided to offer something else instead (again) I can only assume you still have none to offer..
 
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