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A Question for Conspiracy Theorists.

I dont think a lot of CT advocates have a plan beyond congratulating themselves for being too smart to be fooled into thinking like the majority. Of those who believe, but dont advocate cts? No idea.
 
Qaeda al Jihad claimed responsibility for the attack in Bulgaria. This was dismissed in Israeli press as a sunni organization is a bit harder to blame on Iran. Qaeda al Jihad was also described as a "previously unknown organization", even though it is the original name of Al Qaeda. That proves NOTHING. If you read up on Islamic Jihad Organization, they were pretty much on their way back already if non existent in 1992.

That Islamic Jihad was arguably simply a front for the Iranian Revolutionary Guards.

It's interesting how both India and Argentina concluded that Iran was involved in attacks on Israeli and Jewish interests.

One by the IRA, one by Palestinian terrorists. Unrelated.

Eh? While the IRA was still conducting a mainland boming campaign the two strikes I was referring to were carried out by Palestinian terrorists sponsored by Iran.

Well duh, they are not related events in any way.

The attacks don't need to be 'related' in order to make the simple point that there was a demonstrable spate of attacks on Israeli and Jewish targets in 1994 during which the 1994 Buenos Aires bombing took place. The fact that there was a spate of attacks means that your claim of July 18 being significant as the publication date of Mein Kampf is extremely flawed, and very very very poor evidence to dispute the conclusions of the Argentinians, who fingered Iran.

No such track record of Middle Eastern terrorist groups of doing it in Latin America or Eastern Europe.

Both of which are irrelevant to the point that neo-Nazis don't blow themselves up, whereas Islamic terrorists do

Not a single shred of evidence has been presented to support that assertion.

Er... really? The fact that there's CCTV footage of a a man lingering around the terminal isn't evidence?

This is the main path investigators are taking because Netanyahu is yapping about it. Maybe a different reason for why their investigation is bloody stuck and no perpetrator is known.

Why do you personalise the issue? There seems to be a strong institutional consensus in Israel and you have to finger Netanyahu alone.

And you know, there are a zillion reasons why an investigation can get stuck. The undeniable fact is that this was an attack by Islamic terrorists on a soft Israeli target.

It only rules it out if a suicide bombing is proven. No such conclusive proof exists. The timing comes at the anniversary of Mein Kampf and tension about Iran's nuclear facilities have been ongoing for YEARS.

Yet Iran has struck already at Israeli interests in India earlier this year alone, and the assassination of scientists is a recent development. Whether or not it is Iran in direct or proxy form, the attack is freaking obviously related to the Middle Eastern conflict. You pointed out above that an Al Qaeda franchise has claimed responsibility. Maybe it was.

Blaming neo-Nazis makes zero sense in this context. You said, "like there aren't enough antisemites in Eastern Europe as it is". Really? There's a history of bomb attacks in Eastern Europe against Israeli targets? This would in fact be virtually the first neo-Nazi attack against an Israeli target in the whole of Europe. Hitherto, neo-Nazi terrorists have traditionally bombed synagogues.

I think you'll find that there are very few Jews in Bulgaria, and the country is quasi-proud of the fact that they resisted handing over Bulgarian citizens to the Nazis for the Final Solution. All the other neo-Nazi movements in Europe are marked out by their extreme nationalism and parochialism. It's really only in Hollywood that you ever get international right wing terrorism.

Therefore, your throwaway claim is implausible. You're really going to need better evidence than the coincidence of date.

I did not make any allegation of false flag event. I am making allegations of Reichstag burning. Someone blew that thing up alright, maybe islamic terrorists after all (no way to know for sure that quickly) or neo nazis, but Netanyahu is a bloodsucker using that event for his own political agenda.

And once again you personalise the issue, using blatantly antisemitic language, calling Netanyahu a 'bloodsucker'.

The Israeli state has a good reason to suspect and accuse Iran given that Iran has already attacked Israeli interests in 2012. Maybe they are too quick to accuse Iran, but that won't make any difference to the overall strategic balance which may or may not result in a military attack on Iran, or another conflict in Lebanon with Hezbollah.

Why not both alright? :rolleyes:

All three I'd say. You clearly have an axe to grind about Israel and Jews. That is massively distorting your understanding of world affairs, and leading you to apologise for Islamic terrorism, something you're busy doing on at least three threads right now.
 
It's interesting how both India and Argentina concluded that Iran was involved in attacks on Israeli and Jewish interests.
It is also interesting how Iran was found guilty of 911 in a US court but any attempt of charging Saudi Arabia was quickly dismissed. If you are naive enough to think politics never enter a courtroom or investigation, I do not have much to say to you.


Eh? While the IRA was still conducting a mainland boming campaign the two strikes I was referring to were carried out by Palestinian terrorists sponsored by Iran.
You were referring to TWO attacks on London in 1994. The Israeli embassy attack is ONE. Let me help you: the other one happening in London in 1994 is the mortar shelling of Heathrow. Let me help you some more:that one had the IRA behind it. You also might want to have read your wikipedia link. It shows again that Israel was quite quick to blame Iran but in the end Palestinian terrorists were convicted. Your wikipedia link supports NO assertion of Palestinian terrorists "sponsored by Iran".


The attacks don't need to be 'related' in order to make the simple point that there was a demonstrable spate of attacks on Israeli and Jewish targets in 1994 during which the 1994 Buenos Aires bombing took place. The fact that there was a spate of attacks means that your claim of July 18 being significant as the publication date of Mein Kampf is extremely flawed, and very very very poor evidence to dispute the conclusions of the Argentinians, who fingered Iran.
Well, you've just reinforced my point by showing Israel is quick to point fingers at Iran which later turns out to be false. I originally just knew Palestinians were behind it, NOT that Israel had first blamed it on Iran as in Bulgaria now. Way to make a point Nick.

I also don't get how such unrelated attacks having no specific dates with a special meaning somehow proves that one of those bombings in Argentina couldn't be because of the anniversary of Mein Kampf.



Both of which are irrelevant to the point that neo-Nazis don't blow themselves up, whereas Islamic terrorists do. Er... really? The fact that there's CCTV footage of a a man lingering around the terminal isn't evidence?
A footage of a man at the airport "proves" he blew himself up? Wow. Repeat: NO EVIDENCE for a suicide attack. See also points 3, 4, 6 and 8 I made previously.


Why do you personalise the issue? There seems to be a strong institutional consensus in Israel and you have to finger Netanyahu alone.
He's the biggest yapper of them all in case you didn't notice.


And you know, there are a zillion reasons why an investigation can get stuck. The undeniable fact is that this was an attack by Islamic terrorists on a soft Israeli target.
There is not a single shred of evidence produced so far for the part in bold. Please do present it if you think you have. The rest of your statement is the only undeniable fact.


Yet Iran has struck already at Israeli interests in India earlier this year alone, and the assassination of scientists is a recent development. Whether or not it is Iran in direct or proxy form, the attack is freaking obviously related to the Middle Eastern conflict. You pointed out above that an Al Qaeda franchise has claimed responsibility. Maybe it was.
The Israeli state has a good reason to suspect and accuse Iran given that Iran has already attacked Israeli interests in 2012.
That is not quite analogous to saying that if an untampered dice will roll six a million times in a row, that the chance of rolling six again will be lower than 1/6 (in your case a series of similar rolls will produce a higher chance of another such roll), but it comes quite close. It is a beginner's crime against statistics.


Blaming neo-Nazis makes zero sense in this context. You said, "like there aren't enough antisemites in Eastern Europe as it is". Really? There's a history of bomb attacks in Eastern Europe against Israeli targets? This would in fact be virtually the first neo-Nazi attack against an Israeli target in the whole of Europe. Hitherto, neo-Nazi terrorists have traditionally bombed synagogues.
You seem oblivious to the fact that it would also be a first for Iran to strike in Eastern Europe, meaning your position is equally believable or unbelievable. Way to argument.


It's really only in Hollywood that you ever get international right wing terrorism.
Hollywood, mmm? Close to Los Angeles.


And once again you personalise the issue, using blatantly antisemitic language, calling Netanyahu a 'bloodsucker'.
If you exploit dead people for political purposes, "bloodsucker" is even a word of kindness. I did not realize when I made that statement that jews were stereotyped as bloodsuckers in the Holocaust, so that may seem insensitive I admit, but I swear I did not intend it.


All three I'd say. You clearly have an axe to grind about Israel and Jews. That is massively distorting your understanding of world affairs, and leading you to apologise for Islamic terrorism, something you're busy doing on at least three threads right now.
Well, you know me from the revisionism thread. I do have an axe to grind with people at the origin of a massive lie of never before seen proportions. And quit calling me an apologist for Islamic terrorists, using the available evidence (about zero) I have equal rights to start name calling you a neo nazi enabler, as you seem quite quick to point any possible blame away from neo nazis. Not to say you are a neo nazi. :rolleyes:
 
Crap, upon re reading, I did not intend to refer to the Holocaust with "rolling six a million times in a row". Unless this subconsciousness business is for real and psychology IS a science after all.
 
Crap, upon re reading, I did not intend to refer to the Holocaust with "rolling six a million times in a row". Unless this subconsciousness business is for real and psychology IS a science after all.

I imagine a psychologist would find it more relevant why you would believe anyone would think you WERE referencing the holocaust with that.
 
I imagine a psychologist would find it more relevant why you would believe anyone would think you WERE referencing the holocaust with that.
You didn't notice Nick on the bloodsucker part I suppose.
 
Cters as rule rarely do anything, there a few that have gone off the rails of merrely spouting fantasies to killing people, but on the whole they are nobodies with a internet connection spouting unprovable hot air, some are more together still and write stupid books which their fellow Cters pay a fortune for and lap up.

There is a plan for you write an inane book no rational person can accept nor believe then pitch it to the CT crowd and watch the money roll on in.
 
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I'm getting strange LGR vibes from Simon666. Just saying. :boxedin:
 
To return to the OP, I know a few conspiracy theorists and the nearest any of them have come to doing anything other than circulate videos on social networking sites is having a cupboard full of tinned food (he believes some kind of societal collapse is imminent). The majority of conspiracy theorists seem perfectly happy merely to engage in a neverending quest to 'wake the sheeple' to overthrow their imaginary enemy. Perhaps belief in conspiracy theories alone is enough to act as an outlet for their dissatisfaction with the world.
 
I know there are CT believers out there that actually go out and do something. They do the OWS thing, they sit in front of government buildings or on street corners with signs, they go to WTC7 protests or put together petitions.

I have yet to see any of these actions move the needle one iota. Of course, since all have generally been based on jumping to conclusions and "connecting the dots", they haven't the gravitas to make "critical mass" and create real change.
 
I know there are CT believers out there that actually go out and do something. They do the OWS thing, they sit in front of government buildings or on street corners with signs, they go to WTC7 protests or put together petitions.

They also punched a girl in a wheelchair.
 
I'm thinking of setting up a blog of some sorts.

Uh... this wasn't a joke?

I also didn't even say "I'm gonna set up a blog", I'm still thinking about it.

Ah, so the course of action is not to do something easy and inconsequential, but to think about doing something easy and inconsequential. I haven't been this impressed since the cat climbed up to the curtain rod to puke.
 
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Uh... this wasn't a joke?



Ah, so the course of action is not to do something easy and inconsequential, but to think about doing something easy and inconsequential.



Not since the good old days of bill smith have I had so much trouble deciding if a poster is a brilliant Poe, or just a perfect example of what we've come to expect from CTists.
 
Ah, so the course of action is not to do something easy and inconsequential, but to think about doing something easy and inconsequential. I haven't been this impressed since the cat climbed up to the curtain rod to puke.
:rolleyes: The smug condescension oozes from your post. Serious question: what makes you think it is easy?
 
Note the lack of a real answer. Attempt at humor (fail) to divert.
 

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