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Tea Party Smeared by ABC

SezMe said:
Don't be dense, mhaze. You wrote:

...after which I asked for more details. I'm sure English is your first language.


Examples of coverage do not fall in the category of "statistical studies"


Now, that's relevant. Thanks. But I have a question. Since the Media Research Center was specifically set up to be a conservative counterpart to Media Matters, why should I trust either one more than the other?
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Sure, no problem. I can answer your question. The Media Research Center was strategically set up in 1987 to combat the setting up of the Media Matters group in 2004.

Brilliant!

;)
 
mhaze said:
Sure, no problem. I can answer your question. The Media Research Center was strategically set up in 1987 to combat the setting up of the Media Matters group in 2004.

Brilliant!

;)
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I pose these questions to you, ones which I had hoped to be answered by RobertPrey.

What is "Mainstream Media"?

Is Fox News channel "Mainsream Media"?

If no to the second question, Why not?
 
gnome said:
We didn't gang on him for mentioning liberal bias. We ganged on him for making the false claim that the mainstream media won't cover the stories he mentioned.

Then he moved the goalposts instead of just admitting he screwed up. Entering Jedi Knight territory there.
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Fast and furious is almost 2 years old. NBC just covered it a few weeks ago.
 
Distracted1 said:
I pose these questions to you, ones which I had hoped to be answered by RobertPrey.

What is "Mainstream Media"?

Is Fox News channel "Mainsream Media"?

If no to the second question, Why not?
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Because "fair and balanced" Fox News, even as number one in cable news, does not overcome the combined viewship of CBS,NBC, ABC, NYT, Wash Post, Bos Globe,, Chi Trib, LA Times, etc.,etc. Plus the morning, shows, and the late night comedians where much of the brain dead Am. voters think they get their "news."
 
Robert Prey said:
Because "fair and balanced" Fox News, even as number one in cable news, does not overcome the combined viewship of CBS,NBC, ABC, NYT, Wash Post, Bos Globe,, Chi Trib, LA Times, etc.,etc. Plus the morning, shows, and the late night comedians where much of the brain dead Am. voters think they get their "news."
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So let me understand. Because a single cable news outlet doesn't overcome the combined viewership/readership of network news and major newspapers plus other shows, it is not mainstream media.

So under that definition MSNBC is not mainstream media and neither is CNN.
 
No single channel is going to equal the viewership of every other channel put together.

That is just insane.

Oh and the news sure doesn't seem liberal. Not to my eyes.
 
Distracted1 said:
I pose these questions to you, ones which I had hoped to be answered by RobertPrey.

What is "Mainstream Media"?

Is Fox News channel "Mainsream Media"?

If no to the second question, Why not?
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Google is your friend.
 
Robert Prey said:
Fast and furious is almost 2 years old. NBC just covered it a few weeks ago.
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Sounds about right. Sad, though. But you know, things that reflect poorly on the Bamster's crew and cronies need to be replaced with oh, let's say, human interest programming.

Since fewer and fewer people watch broadcast and cable news, I'm not sure how much this matters. The liberal bias does extend into internet news, but on the internet, a great story can't be suppressed. Drudgereport.com, Instapundit.com is all one needs. For that matter, I doubt that even the huffingtonpost.com avoided F&F. (A quick check shows serious coverage there, I think it goes way back in time).

F&F - A great story.

And that, to a reporter, is what Fast and Furious is and was. A truly great story.
 
mhaze said:
Bloggers.....

David Codrea and Mike Vanderboegh in December 2010.
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Odd. CBS (I think) takes credit for it every time they cover it.


On The Media did a great story on bias within NPR. link.

I don't have time to listen to the report right now but IIRC the conclusions reached placed the bias more with the listeners perceptions of bias.
 
Robert Prey said:
Because "fair and balanced" Fox News, even as number one in cable news, does not overcome the combined viewship of CBS,NBC, ABC, NYT, Wash Post, Bos Globe,, Chi Trib, LA Times, etc.,etc. Plus the morning, shows, and the late night comedians where much of the brain dead Am. voters think they get their "news."
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OK but CBS doesn't overcome the combined viewership of its news rivals either so now CBS is not MSM right? Same goes for all the other sources of news you list. By your definition MSM does not exist.
 
Biscuit said:
Odd. CBS (I think) takes credit for it every time they cover it.


On The Media did a great story on bias within NPR. link.

I don't have time to listen to the report right now but IIRC the conclusions reached placed the bias more with the listeners perceptions of bias.
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Indeed, if CBS takes credit that is interesting. It's well known fact these two bloggers broke the story and have doggedly pursued it. Not saying CBS didn't have some connection, I just don't know of any.

As for NPR, I've listened to them enough to easily agree they have a liberal bias. It's not even worth discussing. Turn the question on it's head, when have they EVER taken a conservative approach? If you can't answer that, then give up on that one. And no double talk about "listeners perceptions of bias", please. Conservatives listen to NPR too, and few would compare it to, say, the debacle called "Air America".

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704050204576218543378702266.html

NPR attracts a politically diverse audience of 33.7 million weekly listeners to its member stations on-air. In surveys by GfK MRI, most listeners consistently identify themselves as "middle of the road" or "conservative." Millions of conservatives choose NPR, even with powerful conservative alternatives on the radio.
 
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Robert Prey said:
Fast and furious is almost 2 years old. NBC just covered it a few weeks ago.
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mhaze said:
Sounds about right. Sad, though. But you know, things that reflect poorly on the Bamster's crew and cronies need to be replaced with oh, let's say, human interest programming.
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Clueless Tweedledum giving a thumbs up to clueless Tweedledee.

In other words, this is 200 proof, fact-free bias confirmation.
 
The tea party needs to be smeared?

They seem to be your national joke ths side of the Atlantic
 
mhaze said:
Indeed, if CBS takes credit that is interesting. It's well known fact these two bloggers broke the story and have doggedly pursued it. Not saying CBS didn't have some connection, I just don't know of any.
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I think it was CBS not sure.

mhaze said:
As for NPR, I've listened to them enough to easily agree they have a liberal bias. It's not even worth discussing. Turn the question on it's head, when have they EVER taken a conservative approach? If you can't answer that, then give up on that one. And no double talk about "listeners perceptions of bias", please. Conservatives listen to NPR too, and few would compare it to, say, the debacle called "Air America".
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And this is exactly what the OTM report was talking about. I strongly recommend you listen to it before you turn the question on its head.

I listen to NPR and I do not detect a liberal bias, often I yell at the radio when they report something in a manner I don't like. The bias is in us as listeners. I listen to NPR because they rarely color their stories with bias even when I sometimes I wish they would.

To be honest I can watch fox news during the day and not detect a great deal of bias, same with MSNBC - Its the evening shows that let it rip and I never hear anything like that on NPR.
 
varwoche said:
Clueless Tweedledum giving a thumbs up to clueless Tweedledee.

In other words, this is 200 proof, fact-free bias confirmation.
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No clue what you are talking about. It's well known to people who have followed this story from the get go how it developed, and it's these two bloggers.

IF some media outlet picked it up other than Fox News in the early days, all power to them. But I think NOT.
 
mhaze said:
No clue what you are talking about. It's well known to people who have followed this story from the get go how it developed, and it's these two bloggers.

IF some media outlet picked it up other than Fox News in the early days, all power to them. But I think NOT.
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Goalpost on the move... see if you can find it. It's obvious.
 
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