Here ya go, Tony.
Download it yourself from NIST's webpage:
http://www.nist.gov/el/disasterstudies/wtc/wtc_draftreports.cfm
Just below the last paragraph of text on the page that begins:
"On August 21, 2008, NIST released for public comments DRAFT REPORTS documenting the Federal Building and Fire Safety Investigation of the World Trade Center Disaster – WTC 7…"
And right above:
"DRAFT Reports released for public comment in August 2008:"
you will find
Public comments received by NIST August 21 - September 15, 2008 (PDF, 32.6 MB)
Or you can click directly on
this link.
I'll expect an apology & a retraction of your comments below about my "leaving people out", my "skimming for quotes", my "oversights", etc.
As I told you, I cut & pasted every cited part of that post. Including the author list, AE911T's stated comments, & NIST's replies.
Unlike truthers, I don't HAVE to quote-mine in order to make my points.
In September of 2008 I did participate in a collected series of public comments on the WTC 7 report by individual engineers, one of whom was Ron Brookman who is a structural engineer. I didn't see where you listed him, but maybe it was just an innocent oversight on your part.
Read for yourself.
No oversight.
Gourley listed first.
You second.
James Gourley put the separate comments from all of us together. He is a chemical engineer as well as a patent attorney.
"You are what you do."
Gourley is a patent attorney.
I acknowledge that, a long time ago, he got a degree in Chem Engr.
He IS a patent attorney.
In case you aren't aware it wasn't sanctioned by any specific group.
Read for yourself.
That is precisely NOT what it says in the comments.
It was submitted under the banner of AE911T.
With your name attached.
Did Gage commit fraud?
I also didn't see where you listed David Chandler, but maybe that was just another oversight on your part. He wrote the part about freefall acceleration which NIST did acknowledge in the final report.
Read for yourself.
He's not listed under the AE911T submittal.
I think you are mixing quotes, papers, and authors.
I think you are tossing around insults without knowing WTF you are talking about.
Read it for yourself.
Not that I think you would intentionally do that, or that you would possibly skim things a little here and there to support your point,
Nope.
I wouldn't.
I didn't.
Read for youself.
There is no question as to whether or not I am a mechanical engineer.
I have specifically and repeatedly stated that I accept that you got a degree in Mech Engr. a bunch of years ago.
That does NOT, in my book, make you a mechanical engineer.
The work that you produce makes you a mechanical engineer.
I've seen your work.
In spite of the fact that someone handed you a diploma a bunch of years ago, I've come to the conclusion that you don't even rise to the level of "a bad mechanical engineer".
But rather, "you're not a mechanical engineer".
This is analogous to Wolfgang Pauli's comment that it (in this case, you) are so bad, that "you're not even wrong."
I am one and have been working in the field doing structural design and analysis in the aerospace and communications industries for over 20 years.
You've told us.
What you do is utterly removed from designing or analyzing skyscrapers.
I know what I do is just as far removed.
I, unlike you, have the common sense to listen to experts who DO design & analyze skyscrapers.
You have clearly lost the debate about the alleged girder walk-off …
It's always easy to tell "who lost the debate", Tony.
It's always the one that feels the need to say, "I won the debate."
Don't you just LOVE irony...
… it is apparent that you are looking for other ways to get at me.
Yup.
I have found that "quoting you exactly" is the best way that I've found to "get at you."
Perhaps you should consider taking that particular bludgeon away from those that beat you up in debates, Tony. Take it away, by stop saying things that are so "bludgeon-worthy".
That really isn't very professional.
Professional?
YOU are commenting about "professional"????
Would that be "professional, as in accusing a bunch of the finest structural engineers this country has produced, from government, industry & academia, of fraud, incompetence & treason"???
That kind of "professional"?
If you had a PE license, the things that you've written would have gotten you sanctioned & your license stripped.
That's the kind of "professional" that you exemplify, Tony.
Go lecture someone who doesn't know at what level of buffoonery you've behaved.
tk
PS. After you've read what you are alleged by ae911t to have written, I WILL expect that acknowledgement & apology.
