SezMe
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In the year 2525 ...
Yes. Yes, it was. By someone who was too far into 'rooms for his own good...or yours, for that matter.
I'm about an hour into Wednesday. We'll see if I can hold my breath for 23 hours.
Moderated Will the 2012 Olympic Games in London be held?
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Yes. Yes, it was. By someone who was too far into 'rooms for his own good...or yours, for that matter.
I'm about an hour into Wednesday. We'll see if I can hold my breath for 23 hours.
richardm
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I have not observed any nuclear war yet, although it is raining quite heavily.
Does anyone know if heavy rain is a known side-effect of nuclear explosions? It would be quite useful to know if London has been flattened because it means I won't have to prepare for this conference call I have coming up at 10.30.
Does anyone know if heavy rain is a known side-effect of nuclear explosions? It would be quite useful to know if London has been flattened because it means I won't have to prepare for this conference call I have coming up at 10.30.
Dave Rogers
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I've got a major project meeting at ten. I wish they'd get a move on and blow up the damned planet.
Dave
I've got a major project meeting at ten. I wish they'd get a move on and blow up the damned planet.
Dave
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@gambling cruiser, #1795
I am sure that the Holy Spirit appropriated the physical body of the blind old woman Ka Apaz. They are two entities. They have different voice, different mannerism, different wisdom. One may mimic the voice of a person but will he know everything that the mimicked person knows. For example, someone can mimic the way that the former Philippine President Ferdinand Marcos talks. But does the mimicker able to know law? Or about things that the mimicked person knows, like a brain surgeon, a mathematician, an astronomer?
The spirit did not say that I believed Him when I asked the question point-blank if He is the true Father (“Ama” or God the Father), and not the one who calls himself Father in the town or the one in the village where we lived in the Philippines. His answer was just scrutinize what He says and I will know who He is. If His prophecies, that the war will occur on a Wednesday in the middle of the year and the 2012 Olympic Games is not held, fail, then I will reconsider my belief in Him. Most likely, I will just pick out what I think is logically correct in what He says (especially those that agree with what is written in the Holy Bible) and do away with prophecies. But I will not totally ignore Him or Ka Apaz.
MarkCorrigan
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Dude, I know you're dealing with a lot of people and it's cool that you're still fighting a lone battle and so on but...please answer this for me.
You have mentioned several times about this nuclear war. Most people want to deal with the broader picture but I want to point out just how wrong you are about this specific thing. If you realise your holy spirit cannot be right about the details of the nuclear war then just maybe you will realise this is a huge bunch of crap.
Either that or it will be amusing to watch you try to retro-fit the problems with your claim into the claim somehow.
So tell me, who will be involved in the nuclear war?
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You do realise then PC, that this will render your god redundant. If you cherry pick the bits that conform to your own personal logic, why do you need him at all?
I'm in London - I'll be sure to let you know if we get nuked
Mashuna
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So when nothing happens today, and you discover you've been lied to, you're still going to go back to the old lady.
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What's that sound?!?! My dog, was that a nuke?! Oh, wait, it's just the sound of PC backpedaling too fast. Whew, got scared there for a minute...
Good luck PC in your never-ending search for your spirits. You sure need it, with all the wisdom, meticulous methodology and intellectual integrity you demonstrated in this thread.
Of course. He's far too invested. I mean, ffs, he's been going to the blind crazy woman for decades!
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Ka Apaz seems to have the same lack of understanding of the effects of an eight hour global nuclear war as you do. One third of mankind is a massive over-estimation of the people who would survive such a war. and there would be no real estate worth having, and no system of law or government to give it away.
I have no doubt that what you experienced was convincing to you and to others who are all predisposed to believe in spirits and mediums. But whatever entity was talking to you (most likely Ka Apaz acting a part), it was not an omnipotent god, as evidenced by the humiliating failure of the prophecy. There will be (thankfully) no nuclear war starting today, and I hope there never will be in the future. There will always be conflict and territorial arguments, just as there always have been since life arose on this planet. That does not mean that the prophecy was correct or that it will ever be correct - indeed since it is internally inconsistent with a poor understanding of the effects of a nuclear war, it is never going to happen in the way prophesied.
I have said this before on several occasions but I really don't think you understand the destructive power and the after effects of a global nuclear war such as you are prophesying. Eight hours of worldwide nuclear bombardment would reduce the vast majority of the landmasses of the world to black radioactive glass. The unlucky few who survived the conflagration would be suffering from the effects of radiation. The reduction in population and the destruction of infrastructure would mean that there would be no systems of government, no houses or apartments, no shops or transport, no hospitals, schools, offices, markets, no mains water, gas or electricity or sewerage, no emergency services or law enforcement. Far from being a paradise where everything is free, it would be a hell where there is nothing available. stores of bottled water, canned food and batteries would keep a few people going until stocks ran out, but water-borne disease would kill just as fast as the radiation. The human race would revert to being hunter-gatherers with nothing to hunt and nothing to gather, and no way of rebuilding the civilisation which would be lost.
Fixed that for you.
Ka Apaz seems to have the same lack of understanding of the effects of an eight hour global nuclear war as you do. One third of mankind is a massive over-estimation of the people who would survive such a war. and there would be no real estate worth having, and no system of law or government to give it away.
I have no doubt that what you experienced was convincing to you and to others who are all predisposed to believe in spirits and mediums. But whatever entity was talking to you (most likely Ka Apaz acting a part), it was not an omnipotent god, as evidenced by the humiliating failure of the prophecy. There will be (thankfully) no nuclear war starting today, and I hope there never will be in the future. There will always be conflict and territorial arguments, just as there always have been since life arose on this planet. That does not mean that the prophecy was correct or that it will ever be correct - indeed since it is internally inconsistent with a poor understanding of the effects of a nuclear war, it is never going to happen in the way prophesied.
SezMe
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This is a serious question, PC. I realize there will be a lot of chatter after WWIII does not happen but please don't ignore it.
Why will you not completely reject Ka Apaz? Her (or the spirit) will have been proven false regarding the fate of the Earth. What could be bigger or more important than that? Why would there be anything left to salvage after such a monumental failure?
This can be a huge learning experience for you, PC. Don't blow it.
hurdygurdy
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Peace Crusader, you've been asked several times about this. Why are you wasting your time here?
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I just spent half an hour putting up a shelf for Mrs Don. I do hope that the coming nuclear war doesn't mean that I wasted the little time I had left.
I just spent half an hour putting up a shelf for Mrs Don. I do hope that the coming nuclear war doesn't mean that I wasted the little time I had left.
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@fromdownunder, #1799
I did not say that “schools, shops, parks and other amenities will not be damaged by atomic bombs”. They will, especially if they are at ground zero.
The old cities may have been damaged by the bombs. They may even be abandoned like Chernobyl or Fukushima.
What can be done is build in another place planned towns and cities. The deficiencies of old cities will be rectified in these new towns. The population will not increase anymore. It will even decline. So those still living should be able to live in peace all their lives by providing these amenities within walking distance.
In a few hours, Wednesday will be finished in Australia but the day has just started in some parts of the US. I have been checking the news at the disputed Spratly Islands in the South China Sea because I firmly believe that it will be there where World War III will start.
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Where do you think "ground zero" will be, and how big will each ground zero be? Bearing in mind that you are prophesying a nuclear war lasting eight hours, will each bomb land in the same place or will there be many ground zeroes?
Where do you think "ground zero" will be, and how big will each ground zero be? Bearing in mind that you are prophesying a nuclear war lasting eight hours, will each bomb land in the same place or will there be many ground zeroes?
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But not this week. The prophecy has failed. Are you going to apologize, you said that you would.
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